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Get Back, Let It Be or Let It Be... Naked
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TLAWR

 

Is a favorite of mine………And I'm not a granny! I'll say it loud and proud…...'I think it's a beautiful song'. Just goes to show.

Ha ha - all good. I always think it a bit funny that we get so many threads asking which songs should have been left off this or that album when there are passionate advocates for all of them.

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I like to say that there are good Beatles songs and because I'm a loyal fan there are not so good Beatles songs. :P

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ewe2 said

I like to say that there are good Beatles songs and because I'm a loyal fan there are not so good Beatles songs. :P

For me, according to my experience with their music so far, my view has become: "There are songs of theirs that I think are great and there are songs of theirs that one day, as I change and discover more about myself and The Beatles, will become great to my ears." I don't dislike any of their songs now...some of them just took a while to grow into 'great' status on me...and I have no doubt the remaining songs will too.

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ewe2 said
I like to say that there are good Beatles songs and because I'm a loyal fan there are not so good Beatles songs. :P

All Beatles songs are equal, some are more equal than others.

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I prefer the term least favorite.

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Ahhh Girl said

ewe2 said

I like to say that there are good Beatles songs and because I'm a loyal fan there are not so good Beatles songs. :P

For me, according to my experience with their music so far, my view has become: "There are songs of theirs that I think are great and there are songs of theirs that one day, as I change and discover more about myself and The Beatles, will become great to my ears." I don't dislike any of their songs now...some of them just took a while to grow into 'great' status on me...and I have no doubt the remaining songs will too.

I feel much the same, and agree with what @Zig said. I have a very few artists where at some time I can appreciate just about everything they do, it's like there is a cosmic link or something (The Beatles - together and solo, Mike Oldfield, Neil Young primarily).

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Annadog40 said
All Beatles songs are equal, some are more equal than others.

Heh I was thinking of this too, and agree with the other replies. I used to be more dismissive of earlier George and Ringo songs for instance, but these days I just love most of them. Still having trouble with I Need You though :P

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ewe2 said
This is a very interesting thread. I remember when Let It Be came out, the radio played TLAWR, Get Back , and Let It Be to death, and because we never had the album I never connected Across The Universe to it. TLAWR was a massive song to a 7yo, I couldn't hear it for years without tearing up.

Having spent half the day wallowing in alternate versions of the Glyn Johns Get Back mixes from a variety of sources I think I can honestly say we're lucky Phil Spector had a go. It's not Glyn's fault. I think he got the core of the album right, he just needed some better feedback and maybe some distance from the material. Finding the best takes must have been the ultimate nightmare, and apart from some extra tinkering, to my ears that's the job Spector did, taking the raw material that Johns found and improving it. I think he went over the top with the overdubs a bit, and I don't understand why he had to splice songs up. I found this interesting discussion to be close to what I think: most of Spector's LIB is ok, but I do prefer LIBN's Across The Universe . However, most of LIBN is just odd and cold-sounding to me, let alone the many valid objections @meanmistermustard has to it as a project. The Spector LIB at least has a sense of liveliness especially in the opening tracks. Compare the stereo remaster of One After 909 with the LIBN version, the LIBN version just sounds weird.

Finally, I wanted to add something about the rumour that Lennon trashed TLAWR by playing badly. I came across this in Ian MacDonald's Revolution In The Head (2nd revised edition). I don't believe it to be true, and my guess is that it was an argument advanced to force a remix. LIB was too close for McCartney's comfort and he needed reasons to delay it. Peter Doggett's description of the issue seems to me to be the correct one, and there's no doubt that had there been a serious issue when Spector asked them to give their feedback, he would have got it. LIB just got in the way of a band argument. I'm more annoyed that someone calling himself a critic like MacDonald would stoop to such gossip, but my rants have to wait until someone (I'm looking at you @DrBeatle ) reviews that book so I can weigh in :D

 

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let it be is my least favourite beatles record, whilst i appreciate what paul was trying to do with the project it really was a bit naive to expect a band that had been as studio based for so long as the beatles to sound amazing in the context he was aiming for. Barring his lovely ballads and 'get back' the rest of the record sounds pretty weak to my ears ....especially the turgid 'Dig A Pony ' and the ramshackle 'One After 909 ' (a song lennon wrote when he was a teenager for gods sake)

Spector had little choice but to over orchestrate and inflate in places - mainly because the playing was so bad, even a genius producer can't produce magic from duff tapes. 'Let It Be Naked ' is of course probably more what paul had in mind and it works on that basis but i prefer the spector record more i think, i especially prefer georges solo on the title track on the original album more than any other version.

Thank god for 'Abbey Road ' which at least allowed the band to bow out heads held high.

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let it be is my least favourite beatles record, whilst i appreciate what paul was trying to do with the project it really was a bit naive to expect a band that had been as studio based for so long as the beatles to sound amazing in the context he was aiming 

It's my least fav too, but I don't find there is a shitty song it.  I am however tired of hearing the "Let It Be " & "The Long And Winding Road " songs themselves.

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Definitely Let It Be ... Naked for me. I was fortunate to have had that album version in my collection growing up as opposed to the 1970 release. And the rooftop versions are great! Some of my favorite Beatles tunes.

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My point of view is the following:

Glynn Johns was eventually not succssful to work out a satisfying album (we can hear the results in the different bootleg "Get back"-LP-versions). Tracks as "The Rocker" or "Save the Last Dance ...." would have been simply embarrassing.

So from todays view it was principally a good think to bring in Phil Spector. He selected the most usable tracks, he extended I Me Mine in length, he did a good job e.g. on mixing Two Of Us etc. - and even some studio talk was funny

But he made several severe mistakes:

1) he could have asked The Beatles (at least Paul) to play some minor overdubs (e.g. Bass on TLAWR) to improve the tapes - instead of arranging orchestra and femal choir. 100% at least Paul would have helped. For instance in early January 1970 George, Paul and Ringo recorded a usabel version of I Me Mine in addition ... they could have done more ...

2) he SHOULD have asked the composer (Paul) for permission reg. orchestra and choir - and Paul would have refused ...

3) he should have included Don´t Let Me Down (live from rooftop) 

4) he should have resisted the (presumable) spiteful suggestions of John - e.g. to ridicule LET IT BE with the introduction *Hark, the Angels come*

All that would have led to a LET IT BE-album that would have been accepted by all four Beatles - and probably Paul wouldn´t have written his self-interview on April 10, practically announcing the spit of The Beatles ... (who knows)

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The get back era has become my favorite.  I like Get Back ver. 2 the best.  I obtained a bootleg of the Glyn John's 2nd mix.  After that I do like the Let It Be album over Let It Be ... Naked.  I love the inclusion of "Don't Let Me Down " in both GB and LIB .N, as well as the full 4 minute "Dig It " on GB.

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Both versions of Dig It  are extracts from the second version, @William Shears Campbell. The full recording is about 12-and-a-half minutes.

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Both versions of Dig It  are extracts from the second version, @William Shears Campbell. The full recording is about 12-and-a-half minutes.  

That is true, but on the album it probably would have been the 4 minute cut.  I just enjoy a version of "Dig It " that's not a 50 second excerpt.

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I like the entire Naked album better.  Although, I do miss the "chatter" between songs..  

Lately I have found myself listening to the Naked version more and enjoy it immensely. The original is good but lifeless at times. Ragged and dark and less professional. But Naked has the live feel with a little more sparkle. And I listen with Mailman Being Me No More Blues inserted after Across The Universe and the Rip it Up/SRR/BSS medley inserted before One After 909 . Makes for a great listening experience.
 

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i'm one of the few folks who prefer Spector's arrangement of TLAWR to the Naked version. It sounds weak without the orchestra. IMO the choir is the weak spot in Spector's version. The string arrangement is actually very nice.

I think TLAWR is a great song and the grandiosity of it adds another facet to the band's discography that hadn't been there before: the ability to sound epic - like the whole world hinges on the song. The problem is it sounds completely out of place on a record that was supposed to be a back to basics thing. It should have been released as a single on it's own I think. 

IMO that's an issue with a lot of Beatles records: they weren't self critical enough. The records contain some truly magical tracks but the quality gets dropped by throwaway filler or songs that don't fit the mood or style. You could turn every single one of their Rubber Soul - Let It Be records into 10/10s by just some selective track listing and arrangement. But hey, I have the benefit of hindsight.

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I like the Spector version as well. Partially for the epicness that QuarryMan mentioned, but also for how it caps off their career. And I agree too that it is out of place on LIB . I think I like it as well because it's just the version we've all known for so long. Hearing it stripped back on Naked is odd. But it still works as a song within that context stripped back. I guess I like both! It's the bloody Beatles! 🙂 it's hard to find anything I don't like or appreciate on some level. 

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I like both versions but I think it did still work with the strings and choir.  The BBC in the UK had this on their site today which is interesting.

 

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