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Where's the love for "Help!"?
1 June 2017
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Oh man, I love Help . It has always been my favorite Beatles album to listen to since I was a kid, through high school, college, and still today. It took me much longer to appreciate later Beatles' songs. I love early Beatles as much as late Beatles - maybe because I was brought up on the earlier stuff first and so when I was thinking of the Beatles as the "Best Band of All Time," I was thinking of up to 1965. Then when I spent time on the later albums, it just really deepened and expanded on my admiration for them.

I don't see any of the songs as "filler." I enjoy listening to all of them. They're not as introspective or indulgent and maybe not as interesting, but man they are good songs. They are all great fun, put me in the best mood, and they can all make me feel just as much. Like I feel just as much emotion in reaction to hearing "Don't let me down" as I do listening to "Ticket To Ride ." "She said that living with me was bringing her down, yeah, that she would never be free if I was around. Ahh..." It's not as vulnerable and intense, but man it HITS me. Like a gut punch, and the tone of John's "ahhh" is very emotive. It's a very real emotion said in just as precise of a way, and it translates for me. They are both right up there as my favorite Beatles songs.

 

I think my favorites on the album are: Ticket To Ride , You Like Me Too Much , I've Just Seen A Face , I need you. People say most of those are filler songs but I don't know. For me they are 1) Fun to listen to and 2) Articulating a specific emotion very clearly, and it touches me. 🙂

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I wouldn't say I love this particular album. I don't mind it. I just feel there's too many tracks on it that I end up skipping (It's Only Love , I've Just Seen A Face ,Tell Me What You See , Dizzy Miss Lizzy are the main ones that I skip).

Favourites on the album would be I Need You ,or Ticket To Ride . As an album, it's just never grabbed me in the same way as some of their later stuff ahdn_paul_01

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Father McKenzie said
I wouldn't say I love this particular album. I don't mind it. I just feel there's too many tracks on it that I end up skipping (It's Only Love , I've Just Seen A Face ,Tell Me What You See , Dizzy Miss Lizzy are the main ones that I skip).

Favourites on the album would be I Need You ,or Ticket To Ride . As an album, it's just never grabbed me in the same way as some of their later stuff ahdn_paul_01  

You'd skip It's Only Love and I've Just Seen A Face ? Those are two of my absolute favourites 🙁 

This album is pretty good and I see it as the real start of their development, though Rubber Soul takes it further and is much better. Ticket To Ride is both heavy for its time and almost proto psychedelic with the 12 string riff and the droning beat. It's also innovative in the way it was made from the ground up and also moves into a completely different second section at the end ("my baby don't care"). Yesterday and You've Got To Hide Your Love Away use strings and flutes which is pretty advanced for a rock group at the time, too. The only trouble with the album for me is the inclusion of a few sub-standard tracks (Dizzy Miss Lizzy ) and some that I just find boring (The Night Before , Another Girl ).

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Not to mention the use of additional percussion instruments throughout, creating a more exotic feel, the pianet solo on Tell Me What You Say, the octave displaced double tracked guitar on The Night Before , the doubling of electric and regular piano on You Like Me Too Much and also the inclusion of 2 George songs.

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7 January 2018
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This was my introduction to The Beatles.  My Dad had an original copy.  Back in 1978 I started playing it on the record player and muse at the pictures on the sleeve of the album.  I knew nothing of The Beatles, but I thought their songs were incredible.  I liked in particular, as 9 year old, Help ! The Night before, You're Going To Lose That Girl , You've Got To Hide Your Love Away , Need You. Awesome memories and quality.

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@QuarryMan You'd skip Another Girl , The Night Before and Dizzy Miss Lizzy ? Those are three of my absolute favorites!

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Help is another one of those albums you can listen to backwards and forwards and never come across a sub-standard song. 

So so good. 

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It's their least polished work but still better than any of the four's solo works, in my opinion...  'Tell Me What You See ' has to be one of their worst ever, not even worthy of a Peter & Gordon B-Side...  The album bears all the earmarks of a hastily put together release to coincide with the film...  'Help !' & 'Ticket To Ride ', two of the best tracks, were all ready issued as singles while the rest of the record resembles more of an outtake collection than a cohesive work...  'Yesterday ' is the diamond in the rough here while George's contributions show impressive artistic growth...  Had they dropped 'Tell Me What You See ' and added 'If You Got Trouble' & 'Leave My Kitten Alone ' this album would be significantly better...  There's not enough heavy tracks...:-)

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I also would have loved to see Yes It Is make an appearance. 

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and noboy has mentioned my favorite unreleased track, That Means A Lot . The Beatles could do nonwrong during this period. 

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sir walter raleigh said
and noboy has mentioned my favorite unreleased track, That Means A Lot . The Beatles could do nonwrong during this period.   

how about 'I'm Down '?...:-)

8 January 2018
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Billy Rhythm said

how about 'I'm Down '?...:-)  

As them doing wrong or a better unreleased track? I say neither, however the performance at Shea is just absurd! John sliding down the organ with his elbow, Paul screaming at the top of his lungs... it is another good one that’s for sure. 

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
@QuarryMan You'd skip Another Girl , The Night Before and Dizzy Miss Lizzy ? Those are three of my absolute favorites!

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Maybe not skip them, but if I'm not listening to the album from start to finish, they're not exactly tracks I'll jump in the direction of.

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28 January 2018
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I think it's just not a cohesive album and there is definitely some hastily put together songs on there to fit the film. I actually watched the film last night (I say watched but I really just skipped along to the performances as I don't think the film is that good) and most sound like they are lacking something. Don't get me wrong there ARE some very good songs on this album it just doesn't hold up as coherent body of work.

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@Ludwig Welcome, Ludwig!

Not sure I agree. Many if not most of their albums lack cohesion due to the great variety of styles they typically exhibit.

That's one their strengths! Tasty morsels for everyone!

The exceptions would be the American Meet the Beatles, A Hard Day's Night and the American Rubber Soul . Those albums have a definite "sound"

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
@Ludwig Welcome, Ludwig!

Not sure I agree. Many if not most of their albums lack cohesion due to the great variety of styles they typically exhibit.

That's one their strengths! Tasty morsels for everyone!

The exceptions would be the American Meet the Beatles, A Hard Day's Night and the American Rubber Soul . Those albums have a definite "sound"  

A wide variety of styles doesn't mean it's not cohesive. I'd argue that Revolver is one of their most cohesive despite all the variety of sounds and moods on it.

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QuarryMan said

A wide variety of styles doesn't mean it's not cohesive. I'd argue that Revolver is one of their most cohesive despite all the variety of sounds and moods on it.  

Preach it, @QuarryMan john-lennon-salute_gif

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
@Ludwig Welcome, Ludwig!

Not sure I agree. Many if not most of their albums lack cohesion due to the great variety of styles they typically exhibit.

That's one their strengths! Tasty morsels for everyone!

The exceptions would be the American Meet the Beatles, A Hard Day's Night and the American Rubber Soul . Those albums have a definite "sound"  

Hi Into the Sky, thanks for the welcome.

I don't think many of their albums lack cohesion. With Help its maybe the feel of the album that gives it that lack of cohesion, it feels hurried and largely under par; it's not an album that excites or interests me. Perhaps Help signalled the end of the road for The Beatles as a 60s beat band. If they hadn't come up with Rubber Soul and truly unleashed their creativity they may well have started going down hill.

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I think the UK version of 'Help !' is a terrific pop album, and far superior to 'Beatles For Sale ' or 'Please Please Me '.  Side one, in fact, rolls along as good as any side of an album the Beatles ever did.  It's interesting how many fans of the US version of 'Rubber Soul ' consider "I've Just Seen A Face " and "It's Only Love " such strong side openers on that album, yet they consider them to be mediocre songs within the context of the 'Help !' album, which is where they were originally intended.  For me, the only truly weak song on 'Help !' is George's "You Like Me Too Much ", but that is balanced out by "I Need You ", which is one of my all-time favorite Harrison compositions.  And I don't see why fans complain about the group's frantic cover of Larry Williams' "Dizzy Miss Lizzy ", which brings back memories once again of young band pounding out an all-night set next to the sweat-stained walls of either the Cavern Club in Liverpool or the Kaiserkeller club in Hamburg.  No getting past it - 'Help !' is a first-class mid-'60's British pop album all the way.

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I love Dizzy Miss Lizzy , it's so energetic! I think the entire album is terrific. Help !, specifically, is one of my favourite songs. I start singing it when anyone says anything close to "help". 

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