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17 January 2014
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Hello, and sorry to bother you all.
I am relatively new to collecting the music of the Beatles, having started with the remasters when they were released in 2009.
I currently have all the remastered UK albums released since 2009, except the Yellow Submarine Songtrack , plus original releases of the Anthologies and Love.
I thought I would therefore have all official tracks, and all edits and versions of tracks, but now with the release of the US album remasters, I am looking to find out what I may be missing by not having these albums. Are there any tracks or versions of tracks exclusive to the US albums, not available on the UK albums?
And are there any B-Sides I have not captured by collecting only the UK remasters? I originally thought all non-album tracks were collected on Past Masters , but are any missed?
Any definitive lists or databases would be most useful.
The same goes for solo careers. I have all John’s, Paul’s, George’s and Ringo’s albums, but where might I find out what B-Sides, guest appearances, soundtrack contributions, etc there are?
Any help appreciated.
Andy
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If you have all the albums from Please Please Me thru to Let It Be (including Magical Mystery Tour ) + Past Masters you have 1 version of each song the Beatles released between 1962 and 1970 (not including the Christmas messages that were released to the official fan club every Christmas from 1963 to 1969). Throw in the Anthology series, On Air Volumes 1 & 2, Love, Bootleg Recordings 1963 & Let It Be Naked and you have nearly every other track that has been officially released; to be all in you’d also need to hunt down
- Baby It’s You single (1995): Devil In Her Heart (Pop Go The Beatles #10, broadcast 20th August 1963)
- Free As A Bird CD single (1995): I Saw Her Standing There (Take 9), This Boy (Takes 12 & 13) & Christmas Time (Is Here Again) (1995 remix)
- Real Love CD single (1996): Baby’s In Black (live at the Hollywood Bowl), Yellow Submarine (1996 remix), Here, There And Everywhere (amalgam of Take 7 & Take 13).
Aside from those there is one oddity called The Beatles Movie Medley (wiki entry), released as a single in 1982 but it’s nothing of note and a handful of outtakes and partial takes were included in the Anthology DVD and video and Love DVD.
The world of alternate mixes gets incredibly complicated the deeper you go and how do you define a true alternate mix, i don’t know of website that does but Doug Sulpy’s book ‘The 910’s Guide to the Beatles Outtakes’ does a very good job (tho is now slightly out of date) as is John C Winn’s books ‘Way Beyond Compare; and ‘That Magic Feeling’ (again slightly out of date).
Regarding the US mixes Something New, Revolver , A Hard Day’s Night (OST), Yesterday and Today & Rubber Soul are the ones i can think that have alternate mixes of songs, there may be others. Help ! on Help ! (OST) has a James Bond type instrumental intro but the mix is the same. Both soundtrack albums (OST) have non-Beatles instrumental scores.
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There are two things that mmm managed to miss in his listing, the live At the Hollywood Bowl album from 1977 (though this has never been released officially on CD), and the remaining Polydor Tony Sheridan recordings which feature them as a backing band and were not included on Anthology. While The Beatles may have preferred that they didn’t exist, they were legal releases and not “grey market” as Polydor had a contract with them when they were recorded.
A good site (though not up to date) for finding a list of what’s been released over the years, is “The Usenet Guide to Beatles Recording Variations”. It lists all recordings chronologically by when they were recorded, the different variations of them, and where they can be found.
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Offline Thanks mja, completely forgot about Live at the Hollywood Bowl and the remaining Tony Sheridan cuts.
With the public domain legislation expiring wont the remaining 10 Decca tracks now be legal to buy, and sell, as well as all the remaining radio tracks from ’62 & 63, the Star Club recordings, studio outtakes, the Cavern Rehearsal, and any other demo’s/oddities lying around. When you tot all that up its not a bad haul of goodies (tho the sound quality isnt the greatest for many) that have slipped out of Apple’s hands? Cd’s are occassionally popping up now of these.
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17 December 2012
Offline I would say that the Decca audition and the majority of the Star Club are out of play, and have copyrights owned by The Beatles.
Both have had non-bootleg releases over the years, the Star Club releases starting in 1977, and Decca in the early ’80s. So The Beatles have plenty of releases to point out and say, “These have been released!”. All the releases may have been “grey market” but they were legal.
It then seems that The Beatles gained control of the Decca tracks during the Anthology project, evidenced by the inclusion of five tracks on Anthology 1 , and gained control of the Star Club recordings with the ’90s High Court case.
Those “grey market” releases that The Beatles fought so hard against, are now the releases that – I would think – mean that they don’t now fall into public domain.
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The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
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17 January 2014
Offline Many thanks for your input. Most helpful.
Regards,
Andy
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17 January 2014
Offline Further to the posts above, just stumbled across the wiki page for the Christmas fanclub records, which I understand they compiled into a 7-track Christmas album in 1970. Aside from an edited “Christmas Time Is Here Again ” being used as a B-Side for the Anthology project, these haven’t been included anywhere else have they. I will add them to my list.
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andyb said
Further to the posts above, just stumbled across the wiki page for the Christmas fanclub records, which I understand they compiled into a 7-track Christmas album in 1970. Aside from an edited “Christmas Time Is Here Again ” being used as a B-Side for the Anthology project, these haven’t been included anywhere else have they. I will add them to my list.
An edited version of the 1963 message was included in Rock Band as a secret track you had to unlock to access.
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8.43pm
22 June 2020
Offline Hi! This are all Beatles studio recordings (no live), do you know others?
Quarrymen : 2 songs
Home recordings
Decca Audition
Emi audition
Tony Sheridan
Christmas recordings
Around the Beatles (studio rec. for tv show)
Bbc
Across The Universe Wwf
Get back sessions
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