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Changes you would make to each album?
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While i agree that listening to Mean Mr. Mustard without Polythene Pam is certainly weird, listening to Polythene Pam without first hearing Mean Mr. Mustard seems perfectly natural since Polythene Pam .

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The point is that ultimately it is a medley.

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lovelyritametermaid said

 A Hard Day's Night - Meh. I think I'd release two singles instead: And I Love Her /If I Fell - A Hard Day's Night /I Should Have Known Better. The rest would be on a soundtrack album or something. Don't really an album I adore.

*gasps in shock* 

I'd leave AHDN the exact way it is. The entire thing is a bop, I love every single track, and I see no point in trying to fix something that doesn't need to be fixed. 

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No, baby, that album is flooding with filler especially on side B. Make it an EP.

Literally I--- *sighs*

It just pains me to just dismiss all those great tracks on Help ! and AHDN as filler. And you just throw around the word "filler" too without actually, y'know, talking about the songs individually. They're good ass songs. Like-- literally there are so many great songs that would've freaking made a whole entire career for any other band! 

Geez-- Can someone else please back me up on this?? a-hard-days-night-paul-10a-hard-days-night-paul-10

  

Yes.

The 'filler' tracks on AHDN and Help ! are absolute bops and I'd far prefer to have an album full of them all compared to the White Album . The tracks are just awesome! Pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

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lovelyritametermaid said

 A Hard Day's Night - Meh. I think I'd release two singles instead: And I Love Her /If I Fell - A Hard Day's Night /I Should Have Known Better. The rest would be on a soundtrack album or something. Don't really an album I adore.

*gasps in shock* 

I'd leave AHDN the exact way it is. The entire thing is a bop, I love every single track, and I see no point in trying to fix something that doesn't need to be fixed. 

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No, baby, that album is flooding with filler especially on side B. Make it an EP.

Literally I--- *sighs*

It just pains me to just dismiss all those great tracks on Help ! and AHDN as filler. And you just throw around the word "filler" too without actually, y'know, talking about the songs individually. They're good ass songs. Like-- literally there are so many great songs that would've freaking made a whole entire career for any other band! 

Geez-- Can someone else please back me up on this?? a-hard-days-night-paul-10a-hard-days-night-paul-10

  

Yes.

The 'filler' tracks on AHDN and Help ! are absolute bops and I'd far prefer to have an album full of them all compared to the White Album . The tracks are just awesome! Pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

  

I think the 'filler' tracks are more or less thrown aside when it comes to casual listeners is mostly because they don't come up to par with the other tracks on the album. "Help " is probably the biggest offender of them all, if you were to compare the (I'm sorry) less impressive tracks like "You're Gonna Lose that Girl" and "Another Girl " with absolute stellars like the title track, "I've Just Seen A Face " and "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away ". They are by no means bad tracks, but they are more often overlooked. Consistency is a key factor in determining album ratings, at least to me.

Now regarding Beatles album changes, as far as canon goes, I actually have no gripes with anything. I'm actually not a big fan of putting already released singles into existing albums, and much rather have singles come out during the album's release. This is because (at least to me) the albums would give me more value if they contain tracks that are not available as singles, and it emphases the Beatles trend of making albums a worthwhile investment.

Non-canon, however, is another can of worms I'd like to avoid talking for now. I'll probably come up with a list in the future, however.

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lovelyritametermaid said

 A Hard Day's Night - Meh. I think I'd release two singles instead: And I Love Her /If I Fell - A Hard Day's Night /I Should Have Known Better. The rest would be on a soundtrack album or something. Don't really an album I adore.

*gasps in shock* 

I'd leave AHDN the exact way it is. The entire thing is a bop, I love every single track, and I see no point in trying to fix something that doesn't need to be fixed. 

[/spoiler]

No, baby, that album is flooding with filler especially on side B. Make it an EP.

Literally I--- *sighs*

It just pains me to just dismiss all those great tracks on Help ! and AHDN as filler. And you just throw around the word "filler" too without actually, y'know, talking about the songs individually. They're good ass songs. Like-- literally there are so many great songs that would've freaking made a whole entire career for any other band! 

Geez-- Can someone else please back me up on this?? a-hard-days-night-paul-10a-hard-days-night-paul-10

  

Yes.

The 'filler' tracks on AHDN and Help ! are absolute bops and I'd far prefer to have an album full of them all compared to the White Album . The tracks are just awesome! Pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

  

I think the 'filler' tracks are more or less thrown aside when it comes to casual listeners is mostly because they don't come up to par with the other tracks on the album. "Help " is probably the biggest offender of them all, if you were to compare the (I'm sorry) less impressive tracks like "You're Gonna Lose that Girl" and "Another Girl " with absolute stellars like the title track, "I've Just Seen A Face " and "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away ". They are by no means bad tracks, but they are more often overlooked. Consistency is a key factor in determining album ratings, at least to me.

Now regarding Beatles album changes, as far as canon goes, I actually have no gripes with anything. I'm actually not a big fan of putting already released singles into existing albums, and much rather have singles come out during the album's release. This is because (at least to me) the albums would give me more value if they contain tracks that are not available as singles, and it emphases the Beatles trend of making albums a worthwhile investment.

Non-canon, however, is another can of worms I'd like to avoid talking for now. I'll probably come up with a list in the future, however.

  

Now hang on.

You're Gonna Lose That Girl is a brilliant, brilliant song - possibly the best on the album. It's often heralded as being an amazing song. There aren't really any 'less impressive tracks', but you could make an argument against TMWYS and Dizzy Miss Lizzy . Help , and AHDN especially, I feel are very consistent - much more so than the White Album or Abbey Road .

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lovelyritametermaid said

 A Hard Day's Night - Meh. I think I'd release two singles instead: And I Love Her /If I Fell - A Hard Day's Night /I Should Have Known Better. The rest would be on a soundtrack album or something. Don't really an album I adore.

*gasps in shock* 

I'd leave AHDN the exact way it is. The entire thing is a bop, I love every single track, and I see no point in trying to fix something that doesn't need to be fixed. 

[/spoiler]

No, baby, that album is flooding with filler especially on side B. Make in an EP.

Literally I--- *sighs*

It just pains me to just dismiss all those great tracks on Help ! and AHDN as filler. And you just throw around the word "filler" too without actually, y'know, talking about the songs individually. They're good ass songs. Like-- literally there are so many great songs that would've freaking made a whole entire career for any other band! 

Geez-- Can someone else please back me up on this?? a-hard-days-night-paul-10a-hard-days-night-paul-10

Yes.

The 'filler' tracks on AHDN and Help ! are absolute bops and I'd far prefer to have an album full of them all compared to the White Album . The tracks are just awesome! Pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

I think the 'filler' tracks are more or less thrown aside when it comes to casual listeners is mostly because they don't come up to par with the other tracks on the album. "Help " is probably the biggest offender of them all, if you were to compare the (I'm sorry) less impressive tracks like "You're Gonna Lose that Girl" and "Another Girl " with absolute stellars like the title track, "I've Just Seen A Face " and "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away ". They are by no means bad tracks, but they are more often overlooked. Consistency is a key factor in determining album ratings, at least to me.

Now regarding Beatles album changes, as far as canon goes, I actually have no gripes with anything. I'm actually not a big fan of putting already released singles into existing albums, and much rather have singles come out during the album's release. This is because (at least to me) the albums would give me more value if they contain tracks that are not available as singles, and it emphases the Beatles trend of making albums a worthwhile investment.

Non-canon, however, is another can of worms I'd like to avoid talking for now. I'll probably come up with a list in the future, however.

Now hang on.

You're Gonna Lose That Girl is a brilliant, brilliant song - possibly the best on the album. It's often heralded as being an amazing song. There aren't really any 'less impressive tracks', but you could make an argument against TMWYS and Dizzy Miss Lizzy . Help , and AHDN especially, I feel are very consistent - much more so than the White Album or Abbey Road .

Now hang on.

I'm not gonna let you compare Help ! to Abbey Road on terms of consistency.

Abbey Road is not only consistent, but also diverse. Help ! is, at its best, a soup of different tracks that seem to be organised in a complete random order. Abbey Road has a structure strong as iron and absolutely perfect. Side A has representation from every member of the band doing what they do best. Come Together and I Want You are some of the hardest, most rocking songs by the band and perfectly represent John's output as a songwriter, Maxwell's Silver Hammer and Oh! Darling are so McCartney I can't even begin to describe them. They are corny, exciting and passionate they totally do justice to Paul's perspective on composition. Octopus's Garden is not only one of the best tracks singed by Ringo in terms of composition and attention to detail, but he also wrote it and it shows in how dorky and fun it is. Something is George's most critically acclaimed ballad. Side A is perfect.

Side B, which could be the one considered to have "filler" in it, compensates by making the Medley. Every song counts and those that aren't as good (Mean Mr. Mustard, Polythene Pam ) are under 2 minutes in length and totally fit the album's purpose. And I better not hear you say Here Comés the Sun and Because are filler. Also Sun King is bloody genius and underrateda-hard-days-night-paul-11

Help ! has I Need You , Another Girl , The Night Before , Act Naturally , You Like Me Too Much , Tell Me What You See . I can't even remember in which fucking order because the album has such a low standard of progression. I'd argue Help !, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away and You're Going To Lose That Girl aren't even that good. If Help ! is consistent in anything, is disappointment. Jules out.

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Help is no jumble of random tracks. It is an exciting ride from beginning to end with plenty of variety to boot. It contains Rock, Blues, Folk, and so much of the unique Pop blend of any genre. You’re Going To Lose That Girl is an example of the understated instrumentation and harmony that makes the Abbey Road Medley so great. This period was especially productive, there isn’t really a track or even outtake that can be faulted. 

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Help is no jumble of random tracks. It is an exciting ride from beginning to end with plenty of variety to boot. It contains Rock, Blues, Folk, and so much of the unique Pop blend of any genre. You’re Going To Lose That Girl is an example of the understated instrumentation and harmony that makes the Abbey Road Medley so great. This period was especially productive, there isn’t really a track or even outtake that can be faulted. 

Well maybe you're right, I'm not gonna deny the productivity of the fecking Beatles, I mean they were the Beatles. I'm not gonna say that Help ! doesn't have nice tunes that I don't revisit once in a while.

But the album ends with Dizzy Miss Lizzy . What does that tell us? Maybe the band was in fact putting out great songs, but as an ALBUM Help ! for me is a massive failure. My guess is they weren't yet thinking in the big picture and that's why I don't like it.

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In light of recent developments matching forum-goers with side "Help !" and side "Abbey Road " - and also I feel a bit guilty for partially causing it - I'd like to point out that sometimes, rapid inconsistency can somehow make it an album strength, such as the case for the "White Album ". Yes, the album is a mish-mash of multiple solo songs, but that's part of it's charm. I can't exactly describe how that makes it better, but I'd rather have the "White Album " as the jumbled mess that it is. What I'm trying to say that inconsistency is a hit-or-miss quality.

After doing some thinking, I decided that the only album change I'd be willing to support would be to add all songs that appeared on "Yellow Submarine " the movie to be included in the album. Basically, combining the soundtrack and the canon album together.

Side note: But I really liked "The Night Before " though...

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Side note: But I really liked "The Night Before " though...

"The Night Before " is a fecking bop and it's fecking sexy so I concur.

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"....This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...."

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I thought i'd have another go at this

Please Please Me (1963) (27:51)
Side A: (14:50)
I Saw Her Standing There
Misery
Anna (Go To Him)
Chains
Boys
Ask Me Why
Side B: (13:02)
Please Please Me
Baby It's You
Do You Want To Know A Secret ?
A Taste Of Honey
There's A Place
Twist And Shout
With The Beatles (1963) (33:02)
Side A: (15:24)
It Won't Be Long
All I've Got To Do
All My Loving
Don't Bother Me
Little Child
Till There Was You
Please Mister Postman
Side B: (17:38)
Roll Over Beethoven
Hold Me Tight
You Really Got A Hold On Me
I Wanna Be Your Man
Devil In Her Heart
Not A Second Time
Money (That's What I Want)
A Hard Day's Night (1964) (27:32)
Side A: (14:11)
A Hard Day's Night
I Should Have Known Better
If I Fell
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
And I Love Her
Tell Me Why
Side B: (13:21)
I Call Your Name
Any Time At All
I'll Cry Instead
Things We Said Today
When I Get Home
I'll Be Back
Beatles For Sale (1964) (33:42)
Side A: (16:25)
No Reply
I'm A Loser
Baby's In Black
Rock And Roll Music
I'll Follow The Sun
Mr. Moonlight
Kansas City /Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey
Side B: (17:17)
Eight Days A Week
Words Of Love
Honey Don't
Every Little Thing
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
What You're Doing
Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
Help ! (1965) (26:43)
Side A: (13:52)
Help !
The Night Before
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
I Need You
Another Girl
You're Going To Lose That Girl
Side B: (12:51)
It's Only Love
You Like Me Too Much
Tell Me What You See
I've Just Seen A Face
Yesterday
I'm Down
Rubber Soul (1965) (34:55)
Side A: (18:01)
Drive My Car
Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
You Won't See Me
Nowhere Man
Think For Yourself
The Word
Michelle
Side B: (16:54)
What Goes On ?
Girl
I'm Looking Through You
In My Life
Wait
If I Needed Someone
Run For Your Life
Revolver (1966) (35:01)
Side A: (18:33)
Taxman
Eleanor Rigby
I'm Only Sleeping
Love You To
Here, There And Everywhere
Yellow Submarine
She Said, She Said
Side B: (16:28)
Good Day Sunshine
And Your Bird Can Sing
For No One
Doctor Robert
I Want To Tell You
Got To Get You Into My Life
Tomorrow Never Knows
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) (39:36)
Side A: (19:34)
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band
With A Little Help From My Friends
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Getting Better
Fixing A Hole
She's Leaving Home
Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!
Side B: (20:02)
Within You Without You
When I'm Sixty Four
Lovely Rita
Good Morning, Good Morning
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)
A Day In The Life
Magical Mystery Tour (1967) (28:47)
Side A: (14:40)
Magical Mystery Tour
The Fool On The Hill
Flying
Blue Jay Way
Your Mother Should Know
Side B: (14:07)
I Am The Walrus
Hello, Goodbye
You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) (unedited instrumental)
Yellow Submarine (1968) (41:26)
Side A: (19:10)
Yellow Submarine
Eleanor Rigby
All Together Now
When I'm Sixty Four
Only A Northern Song
Nowhere Man
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Side B: (20:35)
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band
With A Little Help From My Friends
All You Need Is Love
Hey Bulldog
It's All Too Much
All Together Now (Reprise)
The BEATLES (1968) (46:24+47:09=93:33) (CD=80:17)
Side A: (23:43)
Back In The U.S.S.R.
Dear Prudence
Glass Onion
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Wild Honey Pie (not on CD)
The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Happiness Is A Warm Gun
Side B: (22:41)
Martha My Dear
I'm So Tired
Blackbird
Piggies
Rocky Raccoon
Don't Pass Me By (sped up like mono version on CD)
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?
I Will
Julia
Side C: (22:48)
Birthday
Yer Blues
Mother Nature's Son
Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
Sexy Sadie
Helter Skelter (fades like mono version on CD)
Long, Long, Long
Side D: (24:21)
Revolution 1
Honey Pie
Savoy Truffle
Cry Baby Cry
Revolution 9 (not on CD)
Good Night (not on CD)
Get Back (1969) (35:04)
Side A: (17:15)
Get Back (30/1/1969)
Don't Let Me Down (30/1/1969)
I've Got A Feeling (30/1/1969)
One After 909 (30/1/1969)
Dig A Pony (30/1/1969)
Side B: (17:01)
Two Of Us (31/1/1969)
For You Blue
Dig It (extended version)
The Long And Winding Road (31/1/1969)
Get Back (Reprise) (30/1/1969)
Abbey Road (1969) (32:49)
Side A: (17:06)
Come Together
Something
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Oh! Darling
Octopus's Garden
Side B: (15:43)
You Never Give Me Your Money
Sun King
Mean Mr. Mustard
Polythene Pam
She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
Golden Slumbers
Carry That Weight
The End
Singles:
Love Me Do /P.S. I Love You (Fall 1962)
Please Please Me /Ask Me Why (Winter 1963)
From Me To You /Thank You Girl (Spring 1963)
She Loves You /I'll Get You (Summer 1963)
I Want To Hold Your Hand /This Boy (Fall 1963)
Can't Buy Me Love /You Can't Do That (Spring 1964)
A Hard Day's Night /Things We Said Today (Summer 1964)
I Feel Fine /She's A Woman (Fall 1964)
Ticket To Ride /Yes It Is (Spring 1965)
Help !/I'm Down (Summer 1965)
We Can Work It Out /Day Tripper (Fall 1965)
Dizzy Miss Lizzy /Bad Boy (Spring 1966)
Paperback Writer /Rain (Summer 1966)
Strawberry Fields Forever /Penny Lane (Spring 1967)
All You Need Is Love /Baby, You're A Rich Man (Summer 1967)
Lady Madonna /Across The Universe (Past Masters ) (Spring 1968)
Hey Jude /Revolution (Summer 1968)
Let It Be (31/1/1969)/I Want You (She's So Heavy) (edited) (Spring 1969)
The Ballad Of John And Yoko /Old Brown Shoe (Summer 1969)
Here Comes The Sun /Because (Fall 1969)
I Me Mine /Maggie Mae (Winter 1970)
EP:
Long Tall Sally (1964) (6:58)
Side A: (4:02)
Long Tall Sally
Matchbox
Side B: (2:56)
Slow Down

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Side note: But I really liked "The Night Before " though...

"The Night Before " is a fecking bop and it's fecking sexy so I concur.

  

One of Paul's best ever songs. The energy is what appeals to me. Plus, I love songs that are so passionate about misery, such as Any Day Now by Elvis. 

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