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Bootlegs, foreign and unusual releases
13 February 2017
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In an earlier post, I said 

(the only album of The Beatles released on Melodiya I have seen on the internet is AHDN)

Found it. A Hard Day’s Night on Melodiya.

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The majority of The Beatles music was banned in the USSR for being “ideologically unsound” long into the ’80s.

The state record label, Melodiya, was effectively a pirate label, in that during the Soviet-era foreign artists material would be released without permission and without royalty payment.

Here is a discography of Soviet-era Melodiya releases that feature The Beatles (I have given the English translations of their rather unimaginative and repetitive titles):

1967

Musical Kaleidoscope (Series 8)
(various artists) 10″ LP: Melodiya 33?-20227-28
Girl

1974

Vocal-Instrumental Ensemble
7″ flexi EP: Melodiya ?? 0004017-18; 7″ EP: Melodiya M62-35691-92
Can’t Buy Me Love / Maxwell’s Silver Hammer // Lady Madonna / I Should Have Known Better

Vocal-Instrumental Ensemble
7″ flexi EP: Melodiya ?62-04111-12; 7″ EP: Melodiya M62-35903-04
With A Little Help From My Friends / Penny Lane // When I’m Sixty-Four / Lovely Rita

Vocal-Instrumental Ensembles of the World
(various artists) 7″ flexi EP: Melodiya ?62-04119-20; 7″ EP: Melodiya M62-35967-68
Birthday

Vocal-Instrumental Ensemble (England)
7″ flexi EP: Melodiya ?62-04199-200; 7″ EP: Melodiya M62-36715-16
Across The Universe / I Me Mine // Let It Be

1975

Vocal-Instrumental Ensemble
7″ flexi EP: Melodiya ?62-04449-50; 7″ EP: Melodiya C62-05613-14
Here Comes The Sun / Because // Golden Slumbers /Carry That Weight /The End

Vocal-Instrumental Ensemble (England)
7″ flexi EP: Melodiya ?62-04449-50; 7″ EP: Melodiya C62-05613-14
Octopus’s Garden / Something // Come Together

1986

A Hard Day’s Night
12″ LP: Melodiya C60 23579 008 (C60 23579-08)
A Hard Day’s Night / I Should Have Known Better / If I Fell / I’m Happy Just To Dance With You / And I Love Her / Tell Me Why / Can’t Buy Me Love // Any Time At All / I’ll Cry Instead / Things We Said Today / You Can’t Do That / I’ll Be Back

A Taste Of Honey
12″ LP: Melodiya C60 23581 008 (C60 23581-82)
PS I Love You / Do You Want To Know A Secret ? / A Taste Of Honey / I Saw Her Standing There / Baby’s In Black / No Reply / I’ll Follow The Sun / Eight Days A Week // I Don’t Want To Spoil The Party / Rock And Roll Music / Please Mr. Postman / It Won’t Be Long / Till There Was You / Little Child / Devil In Her Heart / I Wanna Be Your Man

A Hard Day’s Night
12″ 2xLP: Melodiya C60 23579 008
the above two albums as a double album

The Place to Meet. Discotheque. Volume 2
(various artists) 12″ LP: Melodiya C60 24507 005
Medley of the Beatles Songs (a very strange concoction of Ain’t She Sweet /A Hard Day’s Night /I’m Happy Just To Dance With You /Things We Said Today /Any Time At All /Ain’t She Sweet )

Melodiya claimed that the A Hard Day’s Night and A Taste Of Honey albums were licensed from EMI in both albums artwork. If so, that would make these two albums the first legal Beatles releases in Russia.

Melodiya also included a few Beatles tracks on LPs made for educational purposes, but these were not for general sale.

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^^^ Those pirate releases were the kind of thing I meant. a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

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I’ve talked more about foreign releases, but not really talked about bootlegs on this thread yet. Hopefully, I will get around to doing that eventually. Anyways, I thought I should bring this back up now the Melodiya thingie is kinda solved.

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Nothing yet? In the mean time, I was looking through the discographies section on the site and came across the Israeli 1971 release of Magical Mystery Tour .

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Does anyone know why it was released there THAT year? Was it postponed or to make up for The Beatles splitting?  

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Okay, I have been looking through the Israeli discography, and this would be my analysis.

The first thing to note about the discography once it begins in 1964 is that it largely follows the UK Parlophone releases across all formats – single/EP/album.

A big gap appears to be the 1967 MMT double EP. Was it released in Israel?

In the comments on the discography it is suggested they did. So, what is the evidence?

Discogs certainly lists one as existing:

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However, it is given the same catalogue number as the UK stereo release.

Here is a picture of the label on disc 1, side 1:

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Now, that is definitely not a UK Parlophone label.

I wonder if, because the sleeve for the MMT EP was quite complicated, that they had EMI in England supply them with sleeves and used the UK cat. no. because that was what was on the sleeve.

When they ran out of sleeves, rather than order a new batch, they reissue the discs as two separate 3-track EPs in late-’68.

Then, the release of the LP in 1971 makes sense. It is the last existing album, as they have already released Hey Jude , they have to release…

Just as EMI released it in the UK in 1976, the first moment contracts allowed them to do so, it can be assumed they did the same in Israel, and it allowed them to fill an album-shaped hole in the catalogue…

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Hi there, I ordered a Pakistani Beatles EP. It´s an “imported one” like this one
http://www.popsike.com/Beatles…..04366.html

So how do I know, that I have a Pakistani instead of an English pressing
In the popsike-offer is written, that:”NOTE; APPLE RECORDS MADE IN PAKISTAN DID NOT HAVE THE COUNTRY OF MANUFACTURE PRINTED ON THE LABELS.”

How to know, where the record comes from? Thanks in advance!

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If there’s one country that says unusual foreign bootlegs, it’s Thailand.

 

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Ever thought that the Lady Madonna single need more Monkees.

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Or maybe you think that Savoy Truffle deserves it’s own EP with The Banana Splits on the cover.

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How about we put Sky Pilot with Hey Bulldog .

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Do you like the US discography but hate how Help ! and A Hard Day’s Night have non-Beatles songs in them, Thailand has got you covered.

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I never wished that Instant Karma was on the B-side to Let It Be but if you do then you should go to Thailand.

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Last but not least, what could debatably be considered the best non-UK Beatles release of all time, a Yellow Submarine EP, this alone makes me love Thailand.

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^^Wow, there are some really weird releases among them! This EP with Savoy Truffle and ‘The Beatle’ on the sleeve is so hilarious – I would love to have it only for the great cover (and because those for songs are among my favourites on the WA).

Recently, I found a Beatles bootleg series on discogs called The Beatles – Alphabeat, where each volume was named after a specific song and contained every, and with every I mean literally every, release of that specific song that was ever made. On the one hand, I find this so fascinating and would really like to listen to them, one the other hand, however, this is so illegal it gives me a bad conscience to even think about wanting to listen to it. Or maybe it’s ok after all these years? I don’t know enough about music business.

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It’s still illegal @Martha. 

But so are the multitracks. 

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It’s in the grey area, i don’t see anything wrong with it personally but then again, my morals are more laid back than other people’s morals.

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Dark Overlord said
It’s in the grey area, i don’t see anything wrong with it personally but then again, my morals are more laid back than other people’s morals.  

I didn’t want to pretend I had high morals or something like that – this would have been ridiculous of me since I listen to bootlegs myself (for example, quite a lot in the Non-Canon Poll…). The thing is that the extent of this Bootleg series makes me feel a little uneasy because it’s one entire album with 10+ tracks for each song in the Beatles canon which is quite a lot for something illegal. But never mind, you can still buy it in a normal record store so it can’t be that bad.

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Some very unusual releases back there, especially that Savoy Truffle EP! But I think we should help @alraune, whose post seems to have got ignored on the last page.

alraune said
Hi there, I ordered a Pakistani Beatles EP. It´s an “imported one” like this one
http://www.popsike.com/Beatles…..04366.html

So how do I know, that I have a Pakistani instead of an English pressing
In the popsike-offer is written, that:”NOTE; APPLE RECORDS MADE IN PAKISTAN DID NOT HAVE THE COUNTRY OF MANUFACTURE PRINTED ON THE LABELS.”

How to know, where the record comes from? Thanks in advance!  

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Dark Overlord said
It’s in the grey area, i don’t see anything wrong with it personally but then again, my morals are more laid back than other people’s morals.  

Martha said

I didn’t want to pretend I had high morals or something like that – this would have been ridiculous of me since I listen to bootlegs myself (for example, quite a lot in the Non-Canon Poll…). The thing is that the extent of this Bootleg series makes me feel a little uneasy because it’s one entire album with 10+ tracks for each song in the Beatles canon which is quite a lot for something illegal. But never mind, you can still buy it in a normal record store so it can’t be that bad.  

Don’t worry, I think Apple/Paul/Ringo/Yoko/Olivia will survive with a few bootlegs kickin’ around! a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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mod note: This post originally began a thread titled “Let it Be Bootleg LP.” The next 4 posts are in reply to this post.

 

Hello,

I live in Canada however I purchased this album in USA in the early 70’s. It has a plain white cover, The LP has a blank label on both sides. Beside the label is written on one side“Bagel” and the other side“Bagels” and Side 1 and Side 2. It is John Lennon Live in a studio doing the “Let it Be” album. All the songs are sung only by Lennon. The music is the Beatles. He talks between songs and some songs stop and the re-start. The songs are in a different order than the final production album and include an extra song called “The Walk”, I do not believe the Beatles ever released this song.I would be interested in your oponions on it’s rarety and possible value. The vinyl is in excellent condition, maybe played 3 times.

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Welcome to the forum. That’s an interesting find…Can I ask what makes you certain it is actually Lennon singing? 

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This sounds very similar to a bootleg that came out in the mid 1970’s. It had a very generic title something like Studio Samples. At the time it sold for around $50. But in those days these bootlegs were really rare and hard to find. Not so much anymore. 

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