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Why is Beatles For Sale so underrated
12 June 2020
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William Shears Campbell
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I was listening to this the other day.  Mr. Moonlight was much better than I remember it.  I actually really like that track.

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Possibly controversial opinion: I'd probably put "Beatles For Sale " above "With the Beatles" and "Please Please Me ".

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CakeMaestor said
Possibly controversial opinion: I'd probably put "Beatles For Sale " above "With the Beatles" and "Please Please Me ".

  

I can get on board with that opinion.  It is a very nice album.  I'd even put it above A Hard Day's Night , and Help !

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I put Please Please Me above BFS, but they’re both really good. Close call now actually.

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Timothy said
I put Please Please Me above BFS, but they’re both really good. Close call now actually.

Same

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Beatles For Sale is probably underrated because the best songs such as No Reply , Baby’s In Black, and I’ll Follow the Sun aren’t in the same category as their #1 hits and lead singles such as I Want To Hold Your Hand or Hey Jude . Its pretty absurd that The Beatles had a hit of that stature on every single album, including BFS, with Eight Days A Week , yet for some reason this album is viewed as a dip in quality... ahdn_paul_01

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Imagine if Eight Days A Week was the opener. Could be a very positive perception for the whole album.

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As someone mentioned previously, if they could have included 'I Feel Fine ', and particularly on Side 1, Track 1, imagine the impact the feedback, followed by the classic riff, would have had! It would have been an amazing album opener!

Maybe it would have been better if 'Eight Days A Week ' had been the single?

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alittlebitolder said
As someone mentioned previously, if they could have included 'I Feel Fine ', and particularly on Side 1, Track 1, imagine the impact the feedback, followed by the classic riff, would have had! It would have been an amazing album opener!

Maybe it would have been better if 'Eight Days A Week ' had been the single?

  

I Feel Fine would make a great opener.  If Capitol took any care in crafting their botched albums they could have started Beatles 65 off with that instead of having it in the middle.

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I love the gatefold opening....

Unless you own the UK record, few people get to see this wonderful LP, inside & out (with the exception of the 2009 mono CD)

 

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Oh, and quite a few great songs on it too.... (Puts Beatles '65 to shame)

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I haven't seen the inside gatefold sleeve for years! It brings back nice memories! I do have the gatefold vinyl album, which I bought in the 70s, but as with my other vinyl albums, they are in boxes and stored away. I used to love the photo, on the left hand side, of them playing!

I don't have a record player anymore!

24 June 2020
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alittlebitolder said
As someone mentioned previously, if they could have included 'I Feel Fine ', and particularly on Side 1, Track 1, imagine the impact the feedback, followed by the classic riff, would have had! It would have been an amazing album opener!

Maybe it would have been better if 'Eight Days A Week ' had been the single?

  

I Feel Fine is one of my all time favourite songs. I'm going as far to call it a perfect song. Who's going to disagree?  

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Timothy said

I Feel Fine is one of my all time favourite songs. I'm going as far to call it a perfect song. Who's going to disagree?    

Not me! I think it is one of their best songs too! However, maybe they lose 0.5/10 for using 'diamond rings' in the lyrics, so soon after using them in 'Can't Buy Me Love '! 

Still, 9.5/10 is pretty good! 

If I can forget about the 'diamond rings', then it is 10/10!

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SHE SAID SO!

I wouldn't call it perfect or 10/10 but overall in terms of early pop rock it's a pretty tight track.

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I always felt it could've been sliced into Rubber Soul fairly easily and not felt out of place. 

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Timothy said
I always felt it could've been sliced into Rubber Soul fairly easily and not felt out of place. 

  

Yes, it has that 'jingle jangle' feel to it ... and way before The Byrds!

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I know it sounds like a 'tired' album to many, but I think the pressing you listen to makes a difference too.....

I have some later 70s and 80s pressings where it does sound a bit 'muffled' or 'closed-in', and I missed out on the latest mono release, but the earlier mono CD version from 2009 sounds pretty good.

However, for me, the only real way to hear this album is from a good original 1964 Y/B Parlophone label copy.....  I have a near mint original -3N/3N pressing that sounds pretty massive; so much air, and dynamics to the music, and the vocals really pop.... it doesn't sound like a dreary album; it has life and voracity:- the way John attacks Mr. Moonlight, No Reply , I'm A Loser , etc are incredible! All the songs have that that dynamic vocal punch, and instrumental attack; it's a tight, really punchy album!

 

The late 80s/early 90s DMM mono pressing is very poor:  No dynamics, no real bass punch, and a nasty 'harsh' sound to the vocals.

 

To hear the vibrancy; the power, that this, by then, tired band actually managed to inject into this album is only really heard on the original pressings, I feel.... the tapes used into the 70's were starting to lose an 'edge' to the sound, making them sound a bit 'flat'.....

 

It's hard to describe - really hard to put into words - but for me, the original Parlophone mono pressing sounds best...... pretty amazing, and isn't the sound of a 'tired' band.....

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Other than Mr. Moonlight (for me), I think it's a fantastic LP

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And just to add to my earlier post.... the new-ish 2014 vinyl mono release sounds pretty amazing too!  A little more 'clean' and bright in the higher frequencies, but this does help a slightly 'darker' sounding original recording - which is very dynamic and powerful sounding (as previously noted!).  This newer 2014 pressing just adds to that lively and dynamic sound with a little more in the highs; vocals have a little more 'bite', cymbals are more brilliant, and higher guitar notes sparkle a little more than on the original pressing!

There seems to be a 'ridiculous' opening-up of all the instruments and vocals on this newer mono pressing.... everything sounds more separated and clear, and in it's own space....  I've really enjoyed these 2014 mono releases - they are all a big difference to the original 60's pressings, but having just got a copy of the mono 'BFS' version today, it's possibly one of the more dramatic 'improvements' to my cherished original copies.... so much more energy and 'life', and open sounding!

That late 80's/early 90's mono pressing on DMM sounds horrible in comparison to the originals, and even more so to this 2014 pressing!!

Not one of the groups' best releases, but it's always been a favourite of mine - probably more a nostalgia thing as I had access to this, With The Beatles , and Hard Days Night from the 3 albums Mum and Dad owned from when I was growing up in the 60s/70s.  It's been with me all my life pretty much, and I can now say that this 2014 mono pressing is the best that I've heard it!!

Not a 'tired' album by any means, just had maybe a few too many cover-versions; but after their existing work-load, who could have blamed them?  They still put their all into the covers!

"Beatles For Sale "..... Love it!! 

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