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Starr Shine? said

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What You’re Doing would be a great opener as well actually… Hell, it’d be great anywhere! 

If it switched places with Kansas City /Hey Hey Hey, then the front half of the album would be all around fantastic.

And then if Kansas City switched with Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby , then we would also have a pretty bangin’ end to the album.a-hard-days-night-john-1

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Little Piggy Dragonfly said

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What You’re Doing would be a great opener as well actually… Hell, it’d be great anywhere! 

If it switched places with Kansas City /Hey Hey Hey, then the front half of the album would be all around fantastic.

And then if Kansas City switched with Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby , then we would also have a pretty bangin’ end to the album.a-hard-days-night-john-1

If we switched ‘Mr Moonlight ‘ and ‘Kansas City ‘ with ‘What You’re Doing ‘ and ‘Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby ‘ I could stop listening to the album 3 seconds into ‘Mr Moonlight ‘ and save 5 minutes 10 seconds of my life every time I played the album through. Totted up those hours and minutes could then be dedicated to something else and I could have maybe achieved some untold greatness that somehow changed the world for the better. Its all George Martin’s fault. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Covers aside, the originals are definitely underrated, by which I mean they were underrated by me for many years.  No Reply , Every Little Thing , Eight Days A Week , What You’re Doing – these are all brilliant songs that I ignored for ages.  What a plum.

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Every Little Thing is my favorite Beatles song. It is so perfect. I’m glad you’ve warmed to it.

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meanmistermustard said

Little Piggy Dragonfly said

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What You’re Doing would be a great opener as well actually… Hell, it’d be great anywhere! 

If it switched places with Kansas City /Hey Hey Hey, then the front half of the album would be all around fantastic.

And then if Kansas City switched with Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby , then we would also have a pretty bangin’ end to the album.a-hard-days-night-john-1

If we switched ‘Mr Moonlight ‘ and ‘Kansas City ‘ with ‘What You’re Doing ‘ and ‘Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby ‘ I could stop listening to the album 3 seconds into ‘Mr Moonlight ‘ and save 5 minutes 10 seconds of my life every time I played the album through. Totted up those hours and minutes could then be dedicated to something else and I could have maybe achieved some untold greatness that somehow changed the world for the better. Its all George Martin’s fault. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

But then I would be sad since Mr Moonlight is my fav cover. Maybe Apple can charge extra for personalized running orders for albums.

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Or just make up a playlist and either omit the ones you don’t like or alter the tracklistings so you can turn it off before they play.

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meanmistermustard said
Or just make up a playlist and either omit the ones you don’t like or alter the tracklistings so you can turn it off before they play.

At that point you could just take all the songs from all the albums and combine them into one.

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meanmistermustard said
Or just make up a playlist and either omit the ones you don’t like or alter the tracklistings so you can turn it off before they play.

You could make a tasty little imaginary EP by omitting all the cover versions.  Maybe put all the covers on Past Masters !

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Hi!
New to the forum! Been reading through The Beatles Bible like a mad-man during the last week and I enjoy the site and forum a lot!
TBFS is the second Beatle-album I listened to. The first one was AHDN and the third one was Revolver . I loved all of those three albums, but Revolver is my all-time favorite of all their albums. Being five or six when my mother used to play these three albums for me I always tended to like TBFS more than AHDN . I still do. I love the Autumny feeling of the cover and the fact that they look more serious on it. A few of their originals kinda reflect that too. I Love No Reply , I’m A Looser and Eight Days A Week . Not so keen on the Ringo Track and cover-songs, but I’ve learned to appreciate the album as a whole. I’m also one of them That likes Mr. Moonlight! a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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@dead_dogs_eye 

I enjoy Beatles For Sale quite a bit too.  For me it’s really the point where their songwriting really starts to mature.  Most of the Lennon-McCartney originals on there are great examples.  I think the covers, while not bad, are sorta what bog the album down in the eyes of most folks.

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I agree. Thanks, man:)

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In this thread, we toyed with the idea of swapping out ‘Mr Moonlight ‘ with ‘Leave My Kitten Alone ‘ on the album. Don’t get your hackles up, fans of ‘MM’ – this is only a drill. Once the songs are replaced, how do we get the most out of the track list? Putting on my George Martin hat.

Side One

1. Eight Days A Week – Beatles Albums usually start with a self-penned rocker. I always thought the fade-in on this song would be great way to open.

2. I’m A Loser

3. Baby’s In Black

4. No Reply

5. I’ll Follow The Sun

6. Kansas City /Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey

7. Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby – A rocking closer on Side One makes the listener excited to hear more.

Side Two

1. Rock And Roll Music – Another side-opening rocker, this time, a cover.

2. Honey Don’t

3. Words Of Love

4. What You’re Doing  

5. I Don’t Want To Spoil The Party

6. Every Little Thing

7. Leave My Kitten Alone – I agree with @meanmistermustard that this one would be a great closer. 1) It rocks and closers should rock, making one want to flip the album and play it over again. 2) While ‘Eight Days…” fades in on Side One this one fades out on Side Two.  

So, if the album contained these tracks, how would you place them? There are no wrong answers. Have fun.

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I say replace Kansas City with Mr. Moonlight and it would be better.

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I like Mr. Moonlight, it’s a great acoustic song that has you tune your guitar a half step down.

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Starr Shine? said
I say replace Kansas City with Mr. Moonlight and it would be better.  

In an ideal world I’d agree with that, however, I’d simply ditch ‘Kansas City ‘, put ‘ETTBMB’ at the end of side one and have ‘Kitten’ close the album. I love the opening of ‘BFS’ and wouldn’t want to see it change.

The only problem would be being very light on Paul lead vocals with there now only ‘I’ll Follow The Sun ‘ and ‘What You’re Doing ‘. However ‘Kansas City ‘ sucks and it’s about quality not would Paul be in a sulk; there is no way for me that ‘Kansas City ‘ is better than ‘Mr Moonlight ‘, tho I’d opt for the guitar solo as it’s better than the lame crap they gave us.

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It’s funny how we both like how Beatles For Sale opens because it seems that The Beatles didn’t, read this for clarification.

http://www.beatlesebooks.com/no-reply

Essentially, George Martin liked to start off every Beatles album with an original upbeat rock song, but out the songs recorded during the Beatles For Sale sessions, they were all either slow paced, covers, and or planned to be released as non-album singles, which was a stupid idea to not put singles on albums if you ask me, so they had to pick a slow paced song, which is odd considering that Eight Days A Week was upbeat, original, and wasn’t going to be released as a single.

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Yikes! Looks like the point of the exercise was missed. paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif

Oh well…

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Yikes! Looks like the point of the exercise was missed. paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif

Oh well…  

Can we pretend that ‘Kansas City ‘ was erased by mistake by an EMI engineer who was reaching for a biscuit that George had his eye on and that’s why he was annoyed at Yoko 4 years later? Would make it so much easier.

Kansas City ‘ is a momentous bore of a cover. A terrible way to end side one. Even live it was never that interesting.

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Kansas City was one of those do them as fast as possible covers so it’s going to be lacking when compared to say Nowhere Man or Revolution although I don’t know why they called it Kansas City /Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey instead of just calling it Kansas City , I actually used to think they were 2 separate songs when I was younger.

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Kansas City was one of those do them as fast as possible covers so it’s going to be lacking when compared to say Nowhere Man or Revolution although I don’t know why they called it Kansas City /Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey instead of just calling it Kansas City , I actually used to think they were 2 separate songs when I was younger.  

Kansas City had been written by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller in 1952. It was first recorded in the same year by Little Willie Littlefield that same year, under the title KC Lovin’. Under its correct title, it was popularised by Wilbert Harrison in 1959, after which a number of cover versions followed.

Among these was Little Richard’s version. When performing the song live, it usually became part of a medley with his own song Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!, which was first released in 1958 as the b-side to Good Golly Miss Molly.

The Beatles saw Little Richard perform the medley in concert, and adopted it for their own set in 1962.

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I know that Kansas City and Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey were originally different songs, what I was saying is that I thought The Beatles version was 2 separate songs and also, I still think they should’ve just called it Kansas City or called the first part of the song Kansas City and the 2nd part Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, most medleys have each song as a separate entity, such as Tenement Funster/Flick Of The Wrist/Lily Of The Valley or Golden Slumbers /Carry That Weight /The End or The Prophet’s Song/Love Of My Life.

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