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Ranking of all tunes on Abbey Road
28 July 2019
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I would've placed "I Want Her (She's So Heavy)" first, but nice to know that another individual really loves "You Never Give Me Your Money " aside from myself.

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17) Mean Mr. Mustard - as part of the medley, it makes sense as a great transition. also as part of the medley, it makes sense they didn't stretched it any longer. 5/10

16) Her Majesty - I love it for what it is, would've been better if it was complete. 5/10

15) Octopus's Garden - the boys' arrangement saves the song, but Ringo wasn't an outstanding composer. 6/10

14) Maxwell's Silver Hammer - I actually like this track, it's very funny, I love Paul's sense of humour, but it doesn't flow well with the tracks on side A. 6/10

13) Something - one of George's best composition, but I think it's a bit overrated. it takes its time, and that's good, but it's not my kind of love song. 6/10

12) She Came In Through The Bathroom Window - a nice rock track with a lot of attitude and a great melody, that elevates the medley a lot. but, you know, it's Abbey Road , it's not my favorite song on the album. 7/10

11) Oh! Darling - Paul's vocals show commitment and the 3 time progression is genius. the guitar motiv is weak though, and the lyrics are generic. yet I love it, I wouldn't skip it but I believe it could've been better if it was smoother on the ears. 7/10

10) Come Together - one of John's sharpest lyrical moments and I love it as an intro track. but I've always had a problem with the transition between the verses and the chorus. I don't know why, but it doesn't flow, the scale is different and there's no connection. apart from that, Paul's bass and Ringo's drumming are on point. 7/10

9) Polythene Pam - underrated as few. one of the most rocking moment on the Beatles' catalogue. the solos are great and the drumming is very good. very good song on the medley, yet I'd agree is not as memorable, but I think that after Mean Mr. Mustard, it is certainly an improvement, and the album benefits a lot from it, even if inadvertently. 7/10

8) Because - one of the many diverse songs The Beatles made. it is a Here Comes The Sun reprise, a You Never Give Me Your Money precursor and the vocal harmonies are orgasmic. of course there are better tracks because, again, it's Abbey Road , but I love it. without the album, maybe it falls flat, but the song lacking drums and the baroque piano shows that The Beatles where concerned with one thing: the artistic outcome of the songs, and not with a formula. 8/10

7) Sun King - I don't understand the dismissiveness upon this track. I can't. it's beautiful, and a very much deserved break to chill out. a very original chord progression, with a determined pace that has an even more beautiful guitar melody. lyrics of course are lacking and it is short, and undeveloped, but a hidden gem that I've always liked more than most people. also, listening high is freaking amazing. 8/10

6) Carry That Weight - chilling. grandiloquent. gorgeous. probably the most representative track on the album, it has Golden Slumber on it, it has You Never Give Me Your Money in it, and it prepares the listener towards The End . George Martin's work on the string section is perfect. and when I say perfect I mean perfect. 9/10

5) Here Comes The Sun - a classic, and with reason. it's an uplifting side B opener, that introduces us to George's softer side, if Something didn't do that already. the progression is odd, but for the better, the guitar is a nice choice, and it all together sounds beautiful, if there ever was a word that could describe such godly arrangements. 9/10

4) I Want You (She's So Heavy) - apart from the very long ending, it's surely the best attempt Beatles ever had to play blues. the lyrics are short with a purpose, "an attempt at minimalistic writing", John said, and I believe him. to me, the part that makes this track so great, is the middle verse, where they don't even sing and John plays that amazing guitar melody that mimics the vocal part. it's genius, and remastered it sounds like heaven. 9/10

3) The End - the ultimate Beatles' closer. just an incredible idea, given that it was their last recorded album together and it is at the end of the album. a very good goodbye song, given that it includes a drum solo and three guitar solos from each member of the band. the last note repeating piano seems to have inspired Queen's entire sound, if that makes any sense, and the last lyric is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. 9/10

2) Golden Slumbers - just gorgeous. the most gorgeous song I've ever heard coming from them. it is short, because it is honest, and it comes from the most profound place in Paul's blessed heart. piano, strings, drums. it sounds like the most inspired arrangement I've heard in a single minute and 20 seconds. the album wouldn't be the same without it, and if it was 30 second shorter, it would still be one of my favourites. such a romantic song, with so much energy coming from such simple chord progressions. I don't know, it's just that it shows how much they could achieve if they where given the right mood. 10/10

1) You Never Give Me Your Money - it has three sections. each one more beautiful than the last, and more beautiful that the one after it. how's that even possible? just perfect, with sharp lyrics on every corner, even when they don't make any sense. it gives away every secret The Beatles ever had about writing music, and it just sounds like them at their most inspired. compare this four lines: "You Never Give Me Your Money - you only give me your funny paper", "out of college, money spent - see no future, pay no rent", "step on the gas and wipe that tear away - one sweet dream came true today" and "one, two, three, four, five, six, seven - all good children go to Heaven". I'll tell you what they all have in common: simplicity and genius. 10/10

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I disagree with this ranking a lot, but this is really well thought out.

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@Jules your's is certainly quite an odd ranking, but nice to see your first post ranking your favorite "Abbey Road " tunes.

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This is literally the most difficult and most stressful thing I have ever done (along with ranking the songs on the White Album ): 

  1. Something
  2. Here Comes The Sun  
  3. Because
  4. Come Together
  5. Oh! Darling  
  6. The End  
  7. Golden Slumbers
  8. You Never Give Me Your Money
  9. Sun King
  10. I Want You (She's So Heavy) 

11 Mean Mr. Mustard

  1. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
  2. Carry That Weight  
  3. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer
  4. Her Majesty  
  5. Polythene Pam
  6. Octopus’s Garden

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1. Something - a brilliant, beautiful George track!

2. Come together - great, rocking tune. Funny lyrics as well, just as a bonus!

3. I want you (she's so heavy) - such a fantastic composition from john!

4. You Never Give Me Your Money - my favourite from the medley. Beautiful in some parts, rocking in others. All fits together perfectly!

5. Here Comes The Sun - just such a beautiful beginning to side 2. One of George's best.

6. Because - just such a beautiful track, with fantastic 3 part harmony. One of John's best.

7. Octopus's Garden - Ringo didn't compose a lot, but boy, is this one fun!

8. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window - pretty funny little rocker from Paul.

9. Polythene Pam - pretty cool song

10. Oh! Darling - such a great paul rocker. love it!

11. Maxwell's Silver Hammer - my favourite as a kid. Fun song. 

12. Mean Mr Mustard - funny little song from John.

13. Sun King - beautiful

14. Carry That Weight - nice tune

15. The end - a great way to go out as a band, but lacks a real tune

16. Golden Slumbers - not really memorable in any way

17. Her Majesty - does this really count as a song?

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Well, I (somehow) managed to come up with a ranking for The White Album , let's give this a shot:

  1. Here Comes The Sun
  2. Something
  3. Oh! Darling
  4. Maxwell's Silver Hammer
  5. Octopus's Garden
  6. I Want You (She's So Heavy)
  7. Because
  8. Golden Slumbers
  9. Carry That Weight
  10. You Never Give Me Your Money
  11. The End
  12. Polythene Pam
  13. Sun King
  14. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
  15. Come Together (overexposure from classic rock radio has sort of ruined this song for me)
  16. Her Majesty
  17. Mean Mr. Mustard

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This is a copy paste:

I've been working on this for a couple of days. I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating the work of that AvecPaix guy (not gonna @tt him cause I think he's long gone) and I averaged every post in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case Abbey Road . I clarify my process and rules below.

1 - Something (474 points)

2 - Here Comes The Sun (450 points)

3 - You Never Give Me Your Money (436 points)

4 - Come Together (392 points)

5 - Golden Slumbers (367 points)

6 - I Want You (She's So Heavy) (357 points)

7 - The End (350 points)

8 - Because (321 points)

9 - Oh! Darling (317 points)

10 - She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (310 points)

11 - Octopus's Garden (308 points)

12 - Carry That Weight (251 points)

13 - Maxwell's Silver Hammer (246 points)

14 - Polythene Pam (222 points)

15 - Mean Mr. Mustard (221 points)

16 - Sun King (185 points)

17 - Her Majesty (67 points)

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Averaging process and rules:

A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 16) and as the list progresses into the "worst" tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 17 Abbey Road songs ranked.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON'T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won't be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won't be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Particular cases:

-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there's a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don't count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn't have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.

-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs "official" tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don't get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.

-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that "that would exactly be [their] ranking" and don't post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.

-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).

-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, "1" universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it's the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.

-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn't that way. So I decided I'll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I'll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I'll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones' ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day's Night , Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine 's Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.

-NO. 7- If there are "ties" in someone's ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won't represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it's more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it's mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.

-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are "tied" then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there's a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I'll just give more points to the one named first.

-NO. 9- However, if there's a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item "-NO. 7-".

-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn't want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion tooahdn_john_08_gif

All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I'm sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON'T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won't be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won't be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Some more stuff:

I'll try to update it as new rankings are posted. If in enough time this proves effective then I'll ask moderators to pin these posts to the top of the thread and become OFFICIALgeorge-martin Once in a while I'll revisit the entire thread to be sure in case someone edited their previous rankings (but that might be just once in a while (unless someone wants to do it for me in which case send it to my inbox and I'll update this post)). [BTW if there is already a thread or post about this stuff then tell me right away so I can erase this and not look like a foola-hard-days-night-paul-8]

Also in time we could use this information to add some more statistics (just to give it flavourahdn_george_05). Someone can request them to me and I'll see how to add them.

Also here's a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I'll try edit these as well):

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