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26 January 2017
In defense of Dark Overlord, my outtakes of the medley, excluding those recorded prior to Abbey Road from Let It Be or The White Album , have the Medley as Huge Melody 1 and 2. That does show that the songs were recorded in two separate groups intentionally, unless those tracks are composite, which I don’t think they are.
She Came In Through The Bathroom Window >Golden Slumbers is a lot like Heartbreaker>Living Loving Maid by Led Zeppelin. Dark Overlord says the same about We Will Rock You > We Are The Champions, except here the songs follow each other on the original album, and are always played consecutively on the radio. (Or at least should be.) There is no sonic connection bridging the two songs, but they were made to follow each other.
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“The Long One/Huge Medley” as it was known at the time was first compiled 30 July 1969.
It ran:
You Never Give Me Your Money
Sun King /Mean Mr. Mustard
Her Majesty
Polythene Pam /She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
Golden Slumbers /Carry That Weight
The End
A playback was done at the end the session, and Paul asked for Her Majesty to be cut out, so that acetates could be cut.
2nd Engineer John Kurlander asked what to do with it, and Paul told him to throw it away. He’d been told never to throw anything, and so after Paul left, he retrieved the tape, and added it onto the end of the Medley tape, separating them with 20 seconds of leader tape.
When the acetate was cut, George “Porky” Peckham didn’t know Her Majesty wasn’t meant to be there, and did the whole thing; leading to Paul’s surprise, and the first hidden track.
My point here, @sir walter raleigh, is that that acetate featured their intent, not a split of the acetate later made by bootleggers.
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12.21am
26 January 2017
Once again, I just have to say that The Abbey Road Medley is really special. I’m worried humanity peaked musically with it.
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@sir walter raleigh Don’t worry, we didn’t. We have The Dark Side Of The Moon, remember?
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28 April 2019
Random question: where do you consider the Abbey Road medley to start? I’ve always considered You Never Give Me Your Money to be the first song, just because it’s so thematically similar to She Came In Through The Bathroom Window , but everyone I’ve talked to disagrees with me.
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13 January 2019
I’ve always thought You Never Give Me Your Money was the first song, because of the transition into Sun King .
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Of course You Never Give Me Your Money is the first song. I thought that was established.
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30 April 2019
The official start is You Never Give Me Your Money . Any other answer is wrong.
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The official start is You Never Give Me Your Money . Any other answer is wrong.
Anybody who thinks this isn’t listening close enough. There is a clear connection from Because using bird noises and the piano riff comes in at the exact right moment. So satisfying to hear.
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15 November 2018
No way. There’s a clear pause between the end of Because and the beginning of You Never Give Me Your Money .
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15 February 2015
There are plenty of connections throughout the album and no one denies it, but YNGMYM is still the actual beginning of the actual medley.
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7.17pm
26 January 2017
You Never Give Me Your Money is one correct answer. I was disputing the statement that any other answer is wrong.
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7.17pm
26 January 2017
“Huge Melody” which is the original form of the Medley begins with You Never Give Me Your Money , but also includes Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam . However Her Majesty was cut and moved after The End , after which there is a ‘clear break.” Is Her Majesty the true end of the medley? The original form and order was not used, so It is arguable where it starts on the actual album.
My point is there are multiple ways to argue it.
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15 February 2015
sir walter raleigh said
“Huge Melody” which is the original form of the Medley begins with You Never Give Me Your Money , but also includes Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam . However Her Majesty was cut and moved after The End , after which there is a ‘clear break.” Is Her Majesty the true end of the medley? The original form and order was not used, so It is arguable where it starts on the actual album.My point is there are multiple ways to argue it.
I think that pretty much sums up our argument. YNGMYM was always intended to be the opening. The break thing is not important as there is also a clear break between Bathroom Window and Golden Slumbers — it’s not quite a proper medley in that it does have breaks in it, that’s beside the point.
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15 November 2018
Beatlebug said
sir walter raleigh said
“Huge Melody” which is the original form of the Medley begins with You Never Give Me Your Money , but also includes Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam . However Her Majesty was cut and moved after The End , after which there is a ‘clear break.” Is Her Majesty the true end of the medley? The original form and order was not used, so It is arguable where it starts on the actual album.
My point is there are multiple ways to argue it.
I think that pretty much sums up our argument. YNGMYM was always intended to be the opening. The break thing is not important as there is also a clear break between Bathroom Window and Golden Slumbers — it’s not quite a proper medley in that it does have breaks in it, that’s beside the point.
I actually consider SCITTBW to be the end of the medley, and then I think of Golden Slumbers – The End to be a little medley of its own, and then Her Majesty is just a little addition on the end.
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26 January 2017
sir walter raleigh said
You Never Give Me Your Money is one correct answer. I was disputing the statement that any other answer is wrong.
My point still stands. The Huge Melody argument doesn’t stand on its own because the Beatles did not use that order on Abbey Road
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But the Rough Mix was a test of if the Medley worked, @sir walter raleigh, and the removal of Her Majesty fixed something they felt didn’t work. Apart from that the order stayed the same. There is no evidence that they ever tried assembling the five recordings that made up the final Medley in any other order than the order it was put together in on 30 July, apart from snipping out Her Majesty . Everything else is in the same place as it was in that first Rough Mix.
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At least we can all agree that the YNGMYM orchestral blast in the middle of Carry That Weight is the best part of the whole medley, right….right?!?
I always do a massive air drum smash every time it comes on, it really makes the entire thing.
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7.22pm
26 January 2017
I agree that the medley starts with You Never Give Me Your Money for the record, and am playing devil’s advocate. My point is supposed to be that those that claim it starts at Sun King are equally valid as those that skip Carry That Weight (*cough cough). I disagree with both but will hear the argument and think there are multiple correct answers.
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At least we can all agree that the YNGMYM orchestral blast in the middle of Carry That Weight is the best part of the whole medley, right….right?!?
I always do a massive air drum smash every time it comes on, it really makes the entire thing.
@QuarryMan started a discussion about this in (If i remember correctly) the song thread for Carry That Weight . So good.
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I’ve had a version of Abbey Road from which YNGMYM was missing (that track was too scratched to play on my CD) for ages, and I can tell you the medley starting from Sun King kinda works but it’s not very cool.
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