In the studio
Before recording could take place, the demo had to be digitally cleaned up and synchronised to a click track, as John Lennon’s time-keeping was typically erratic. It was then transferred to a 48-track analogue multitrack, which was done – at George Harrison’s suggestion – at producer Jeff Lynne’s Hollywood studio.
It was very difficult, and one of the hardest jobs I’ve ever had to do, because of the nature of the source material; it was very primitive sounding, to say the least. I spent about a week at my own studio cleaning up both tracks on my computer, with a friend of mine, Marc Mann, who is a great engineer, musician and computer expert…Putting fresh music to it was the easy part! ‘Free As A Bird’, however, wasn’t a quarter as noisy as ‘Real Love’, and only a bit of EQ was needed to cure most problems.
Sound On Sound, December 1995
George Martin declined to work on the song, claiming that his hearing was no longer up to the job. This is in spite of his involvement as producer and director of the entire Anthology project, and in 2006 he co-produced the Love album with his son Giles.
George wasn’t involved, no. George doesn’t want to produce much any more ’cause his hearing’s not as good as it used to be. He’s a very sensible guy, and he says, ‘Look, Paul I like to do a proper job’, and if he doesn’t feel he’s up to it he won’t do it. It’s very noble of him, actually – most people would take the money and run.
Bass Player, August 1995
In Martin’s absence, Paul McCartney took the demos to his Sussex studio. Work began in February 1994, with Lynne co-producing with the other Beatles, and the group’s former engineer Geoff Emerick manning the mixing desk.
I invented a little scenario; he’s gone away on holiday and he’s just rung us up and he says “Just finish this track for us, will you? I’m sending the cassette – I trust you.” That was the key thing, “I trust you, just do your stuff on it.” I told this to the other guys and Ringo was particularly pleased, and he said “Ahh, that’s great!” It was very nice and it was very irreverent towards John. The scenario allowed us to be not too, ahh, the great sacred fallen hero. He would never have gone for that. John would have been the first one to debunk that – “A fucking hero? A fallen hero? Fuck off, we’re making a record.”
In its original state, ‘Free As A Bird’ was an unfinished demo recording by John Lennon. Its raw state enabled the ‘Threetles’ (as they were later dubbed by the press) to create a new arrangement and add new chords and lyrics.
Being right there in the inner sanctum and hanging out with them for a few weeks was fantastic. Although a long time passed since they last recorded as one unit, they worked terribly well together, and being in the control room watching and listening to them interact with each other was fascinating. I’d often have cause to think, ‘Christ, no wonder they were the best.’ But I always thought they were the greatest anyway.They’re still great musicians and great singers. Paul and George would strike up the backing vocals – and all of a sudden it’s The Beatles again! To be there in the middle of all this and have a degree of responsibility over the result was astonishing. It wasn’t some kind of fake version, it really was the real thing. They were having fun with each other and reminding each other of the old times. I’d be waiting to record and normally I’d say, ‘OK, Let’s do a take’, but I was too busy laughing and smiling at everything they were talking about.
Sound On Sound, December 1995
McCartney re-recorded Lennon’s vocals for the middle eight. Lennon’s demo contained just the words “Whatever happened to the life that we once knew?” – possibly inspired by “Whatever happened to the boy that I once knew?” from the Shangri-Las’ 1964 hit ‘Remember (Walking In The Sand)’. McCartney added the remaining lines in place of Lennon’s ad-libbing.
John hadn’t filled in the middle eight section of the demo so we wrote a new section for that, which, in fact, was one of the reasons for choosing the song; it allowed us some input, he was obviously just blocking out lyrics that he didn’t have yet. When he gets to the middle he goes, ‘Whatever happened to/The life that we one knew/Woowah wunnnnn yeurrggh!’ and you can see that he’s trying to push lyrics out but they’re not coming. He keeps going as if to say ‘Well, I’ll get to them later’. That was really like working on a record with John, as Lennon/McCartney/Harrison, because we all chipped in a bit on this one. George and I were vying for best lyric. That was more satisfying than just taking a John song, which was what we did for the second, ‘Real Love’. It worked out great but it wasn’t as much fun.
The studio equipment was mostly analogue, to make the recording as authentic as possible. While McCartney used a Wal five-string bass instead of his trademark Höfner violin instrument, Starr used his original Ludwig drum kit. Harrison played two Fender Stratocasters, and both he and McCartney added acoustic guitars. McCartney also used an Oberheim OBX8 analogue synth.
What we were trying to do was create a record that was timeless, so we steered away from using state-of the-art gear. We didn’t want to make it fashionable. It’s just making the statement that they are all here playing together after all these years. So while it sounds fresh and new, it wouldn’t have been out of place on the White Album.
Sound On Sound, December 1995
Ringo and Jeff sang backing vocals? Where?
Andy – according to a Sound On Sound interview (December 1995) Lynne played and sang on the track. Ringo’s contribution was noted by Ian Macdonald in Revolution In The Head.
The only audience that mattered was the three remaining Beatles and all three have said repeatedly anyone of them could have said this sounds like crap and shut it down. In fact that’s how it ended. They were working on a third song, “Now and Then”, and George said it sounded like shit and was done with the project. The question of whether it sounds like the Beatles is an interesting one. The question should be was this an attempt to sound like where they left off in 1970, or was this what a 90’s Beatles sound would have been like if they had continued on?
I thing “Free As A Bird” captured partially the sound of Abbey Road album, specially with the harmonies and the guitar.
Ringo said “It sounds like us, but it sounds like us now”. Meaning that they couldn’t really go back to 1969, but they did their best to accompany their old mate & serve him well. & of course because they were all 20-odd years older at the time they did this (1994) & there was better technology, there was more musical ability & more possibilities re arrangements & treatments. So it does have that “Beatle-y” thing of some interesting chord progressions (which apparently Paul & George added to John’s slightly simpler ones), along with their great harmonies. (I read somewhere that producer Jeff Lynne asked for his vocals to be added, but only in the background of the mix at a certain point, i don’t know why. Why would you do that if you’re producing a Beatles record? You’d want it to be pure as possible). To me it’s an update on their sound, with Lynne’s stamp on it. I’m not sure i like Lynne’s treatment of the drums, or his multi acoustic guitars (John might have gone against those), but given that it wasn’t 1969 any more, some differences in sound & recording would have inevitably been there if the Beatles had recorded together again.
Apparently Giles Martin went back and fixed those two songs and they’re supposed to sound great!
very good song, but it would be better with george martin
The impediment to an unadulterated Free As A Bird is Jeff Lynne. While he was technically adept at dealing with the audio problems inherent in John’s original, home recorded cassette, removing clicks and hiss and pop, etc., his sound-stamp is all over the record. From the first drum downbeat, it sounds like a Jeff Lynne record more than a Beatles record. It’s his signature drum sound, executed by Ringo. The rhythm guitars are muddled, not punching the way John’s were on most Beatles songs. But the harmonies are gorgeous and gentle, the lyrics Paul wrote are poignant and apt without being sentimental, and George’s vocal and slide are great. But that damn drum sound… relentlessly Jeff Lynne. Too bad.
This has always been my sentiment. When I first heard it I thought that this is definitely not George Martin. The drums sounded like something out ’70s arena rock. Oh – Jeff Lynne – it figures. Quite frankly, there is a very good reason John didn’t put this among those he was going to release any time soon – it was a snippet of an idea but I just know he didn’t think it was good enough yet. It wasn’t. Like most of the tracks on Milk and Honey, which were more fleshed out than this, with the possible lyrical exception of ‘Forgive Me (My Little Flower Princess”, you could see John getting some of his old melodic sense back. The potential here was the stuff of awesome expectations. We can only imagine. “Grow Old With Me” — I would have loved to see where that would have ended up.
I can see your point. When it first came out it bothered me, but today not as much. To me, the Beatles were a band that largely moved forward with new and different sounds, styles, and production methods throughout their career. My belief is that had they continued recording into the 1970’s their sound would’ve included a lot of different and new elements. And their basic instrument sounds (like drums) would’ve evolved and changed as well – IMO.
I completely agree. There are far too many records released in the same period by different artists all sounding exactly the same because of Lynne’s production. George Harrison, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, the whole Travelling Wilburys family, and unfortunately… the Beatles too.
Sorry I’ve no idea what you’re talking about. This aounds exactly like it was made by the Beatles in the 60s.
Oh, the old “Jeff Lynne ruined it” silliness.
It isn’t a great song, the original wasn’t recorded well, yet Lynne – with the Threetles – got a good Beatley sound out of it. Martin would have made no appreciable difference other than the cleanup process may not have been as good as Lynne accomplished. Give it a rest.
I absolutely agree. Having been a Beatles fan since their beginnings I think it sounds like what they would have sounded in the 1970s, especially on John’s songs. This is what matters, not whether or not the recording is better or not than this or that. Jeff always understood very well what the Beatles sound was and I believe it was essential that he and no-one else produced these songs from the past. Whenever I listen to “Free As A Bird” I get tears in my eyes because it makes me think of John, George, Ringo, and even Paul, so much.
This song is vastly underrated. The original progression and recording are very Beatlesque and the bridge and instrumentation added were pure vintage Beatles. Certainly it was neither experimental, trailblazing or original on the one hand (and Paul’s bass part was a bit more controlled than in the fabs’ heyday – but IMHO it captured both the spirit, magic and heart of some of the best Beatles tracks. It was unrealistic to expect a new Strawberry Fields or Penny Lane but this track rates higher than a number of vintage Beatle tracks. It was so superior to much of John’s solo work (after Imagine) it’s kind of shocking he didn’t finish and record it for Double Fantasy.
In my opinion, there are more than a few individual tracks from Mind Games and Wall And Bridges that are superior to Free As A Bird.
Songs from the above mentioned albums did not receive anything near the massive publicity that was attached to Free As A Bird which included a prime time television broadcast.
There were certainly a lot of Lennon solo songs superior to this one, but that doesn’t mean this isn’t a terrific Beatles song. It is. Great harmonies, classic Harrison guitar work, and the “whatever happened to” line, while originally written by John, seems handpicked for a reunion song.
Nearly everything on ‘Mind Games’ and ‘Walls And Bridges’ was at least as good as anything on ‘Imagine’. But the difference is, once again, John’s lazy approach in the studio. He had this idea that if he filled the studio with top-notch session musicians the resulting sound will reflect that. As I understand it, even though ‘Mind Games’ brags that John was the producer, they actually had someone else come in to clean it up afterward. It result is somewhat muddy and homogenized – but the underlying music is excellent John. His singing was oddly lack-luter as well. “Walls And Bridges” was a cleaner sound but it was obvious that John still had some issues with filling out his arrangements (something Paul was apt to suggest to John). I figured if Paul was able to flesh out some of the arrangements on this collection they would be earth-shattering. In fact, I even tried to imagine what Paul might do with some of the tracks. “Going Down On Love” ended up being very much sounding like a Beatle classic from ’65. That tambourine — who does that anymore?
It’s also better than a lot of Paul/George/Ringo solo work!
I don’t know why they didn’t get George Martin to produce. Could it be that his ears where too far gone? I think his hearing was still good enough to produce in ’93/’94. Although I do think Jeff Lynne did an excellent job.
Yes, it is a mystery unsolved, although there was excellent work accomplished by Jeff Lynne.
I read somewhere that George refused to do any new recording for the Anthology project unless Lynn produced – Paul wanted George Martin, but Harrison refused – it’s what I read – I think in the new Peter Doggett book.
Apparently, George Martin conceded that his hearing was NOT as good as it should have been (logically enough due to his age ) and was a noble gent who told McCartney that he did “not want to undertake a project of such importance” if it could not be the BEST that it could be.A class act to be sure.
He couldn’t produce but he could have created all the new mixes and edits of The Anthology albums and Love? Gimme a break. They claimed his hearing was shot to avoid a pr disaster .
One of course can only speculate about this, but, speculatingly… agreed.
It’s a beautiful song that poetically, metaphorically addresses John’s death and absence without being maudlin. George’s vocal is particularly strong.
It is unfortunate that George Martin wasn’t producing. As nice a song and effort as it is, and as fulfilling as it is to hear all four beatles playing and singing (minus Ringo) together again at long last… at the end of the day, it sounds like a Jeff Lynne song. There is no escaping his production signatures, particularly what he does to drum sounds. Ringo’s drums on FAAB sound just like the drums on Tom Petty’s Lynne-produced album et al. Listen to them, and then listen to Ringo’s drums on Abbey Road… I know which I prefer.
The drumming on this is very similar to Sexy Sadie
newyorkjoe – I don’t know what you’re talking about (and I’m not sure you do, either).
Paul has said that one major reason they got Emerick to engineer was because he knew what Ringo’s drums should sound like. They aren’t going to sound EXACTLY like “Abbey Road” because of different studios and a 25-year-gap where techniques and equipment changed. (You do realize that AR was the first time Emerick had recorded the drums in stereo, don’t you?) But, they absolutely DO sound like Ringo’s drums.
Paul played a 5-string bass on this.
“Wal 5-string bass. I said, ‘Oh, that’s cool: low B, great.’ So I got one too, based on his recommendation, and I really like it. “My favorite thing I’ve done recently on it was the new Beatles record we’ve made [‘Free Like a Bird’], which is really cool. I don’t want to build it up too much because we’ve got to sit on it for a while, because it’s for this big TV series The Beatles Anthology.”
” I played the Wal, and what I liked was I played very, very normal bass, really out of the way, because I didn’t want to ‘feature.’ There are one or two moments where I break a little bit loose, but mostly I try to anchor the track. There’s one lovely moment when it modulates to C, so I was able to use the low C of the 5-string-and that’s it, the only time I use the low one, which I like, rather than just bassing out and being low, low, low. I play normal bass, and then there’s this low C and the song takes off. It actually takes off anyway because a lot of harmonies come in and stuff, but it’s a real cool moment that I’m proud of. That’s my Wal moment.”
When I first heard the Shangri Las “Remember” I thought “Hey, that melody sounds familiar. But I couldn’t remember from which song I knew it…until I heard “Free as a bird”. The complete Bridge or Chorus or what you might call it is EXACTLY the same – even the original lines John had written for the song’s bridges/choruses “Whatever happened to…and so on”. I mean John often used lines from other people’s songs for his own material (for example in “Run for your life”), but also stealing the melody…I wonder why the “Beatles” weren’t sued in 1995 by the Shangri Las or whoever owns the rights of this song. I think they should have mentioned in the booklet of Anthology 1, that the melody of the bridge of “Free as a bird” originally is the one of “Remember” – if they had done so, they wouldn’t have took that risk. Don’t get me wrong I really like “Free as a bird” (but not the way it was produced) and also “Remember”; I only think that musicians who are (were) as gifted as Lennon and McCartney really don’t need to actually STEAL other groups’ melodies – that’s way below their own talent. If they do so, maybe as a (conscious) quote, they should have the guts to be honest about it. But not even mentioning it at all is pretty “grutty” – because really noone who has heard both songs can deny the resemblence or the equality of the melodies. Does anybody know if this was ever an issue in the Beatles camp during the re-making of “Free as a bird” or in the time that has passed since the song was released?
That’s a stretch.
There’s only so many notes that can be used.
How many MODERN SONGS come from classical music? Such as Whiter Shade Of Pale.
Shadow Morton hasn’t sued the Beatles because Remember (Walkin’ In The Sand) UNDOUBTEDLY came from somewhere else.
FOR INSTANCE, if you listen to the Back To Black single (AMY WINEHOUSE)
it ALSO sounds like Remember (Walkin’ In The Sand).
WINEHOUSE HAS NOT BEEN SUED.
Lennon had nothing to do with the release of this song. John and Paul ARE (NOT WERE) still gifted songwriters.
UNLESS YOU ARE A MUSICOLOGIST YOU SHOULDN’T ACCUSE SOMEONE OF STEALING A SONG.
Didn’t Lennon once say something along the lines of the Beatles being the biggest thieves in the business? I swear I heard somewhere that he did a radio show once showing the original compositions and then playing the corresponding Beatles song that stole from it. An example would be “Watch Your Step” to “I Feel Fine.”
That said, my opinion is “who cares?” I mean, the Beatles came out a genre where most songs were practically just re-writes of other 12 bar blues songs. And in many cases the Beatles song containing a “stolen” snippet of melody or music is far and away the better of the two compositions.
For another song on the Lennon Dakota Beatle demos boot, the liner notes even point out that John’s laughing in the middle of the song is due to his realization that the melody he is singing closely resembles “September Song.”
And in the overall sense, I actually find it fascinating to see how all these songwriters, from different eras and musical genres, draw inspiration from one another to weave this tapestry of music through the years.
I don’t know what you’re hearing to say the bridge/chorus is EXACTLY the same. Firstly the Shangri Las song is in a minor key, Free is in a major, so certain melodies and notes will only be available in a certain key, one melody that you can sing in a major key, won’t work well in a minor key. The Shamgs do have the ‘whatever happened to’ line. Maybe Lennon did steal it, i don’t know if he did, only he knows?…All i know is they don’t sound exactly the same…
I think McCartney wrote the bridge for Free As a Bird, not Lennon.
This song is NOT THE BEATLES and should not be referred to as an authentic Beatles song. While it has nice production values and contains hints of Beatles melodies… it just sounds like a whole lot of people tried very hard to make something from very little. The worst part is the bridge (“Whatever happened to…” song by Paul). Obviously it’s been added and has nothing to do with the original song (and the lyrics only have context as a nostalgic yearning for the Beatles in their prime). I’m sure John would voice his opinion on this (if he were still around) and it would be “rubbish”.
Actually, in the original demo John had the lines “Whatever happened to the life that we once knew”. From “Can we really live without each other” to the end of the bridge it was Paul, so don’t say that all of this is written by Paul.
As is your opinion. Rubbish? What song are you listening to? Lyrics needn’t always be Shakespearean to be good.
You’re right on the issue of nostalgia, but that middle 8 makes it sound like a Beatles song… with endearing lyrics perfectly appropriate to the time and situation. And you’re also right that if John were still around, he’d probably have his two cents to add, but he’d also have his ego and human insecurities. Today, he’s part of the omniscient ether, thus I’d think he’d say, “Beautifully done, Paul.”
Vince (Lennon-fanatic)
I don’t think Lennon and Paul saw this one “eyeball” to “eyeball”.
I must disagree that this is not a Beatle song. All four Beatles literally worked on this song and played on it. It is a beautiful song, as Paul said; it is what the Beatles would sound like today. I have to say, I wish we could go to a parallel universe where John and George are still alive and the Beatles got back together some how some way. Sorry to go Star Trek there folks…. just wishful thinking.
Well?I’m a young listener from china.
One thing about this song confuses me a lot.
Did Paul write the bridge?or John wrote some lines of it .Paul just recreate it?
I mean,what’s the original version sounds like.
Thanx all. Sorry for my English.Wish u could get it
Free as a bird was written by John Lennon in 1977. Paul McCartney wrote the section you hear him singing. If you want to hear the original version go to YouTube and put in John Lennon demo Free as a bird.
On John’s demo you can hear him singing the first couple of lines of the bridge.
The original demo-version is just John on piano (it’s great, I like it even more than the finished version). In the bridge John sings “whatever happened to the life that we once knew” and then he sings the melody without proper lyrics, going “doo doo doo”. The lyrics after John’s original line were written by Paul AND George (“Can we really live without each other? Where did we lose the touch that seemed to mean so much? It always made me feel so free…” – these lines go DEEP and add a lot to the emotional impact of the song). The bridge has an almost eerie feel to it. When they sing those lines one can hardly escape the feeling that they refer directly to John or the breakup of the Beatles. Especially George’s vocal has this mournful tone, as if he’s crying.
I completely agree! Those parts of the song are very emotional – everything comes to the forefront – John’s loss, the magic the band had and produced and how it affected so many people. I personally love the song and was grateful that something, anything “new” came from them so long after their breakup and John’s tragic death.
If I had my way: George and Paul record their vocals on a cheap recorder as Lennon had. Would have made Lennon’s `filtered’ vocal sound less jarring. Love the record though… very touching.
My guess is that Lennon, had he lived, would never have agreed to Jeff Lynne as producer.
@apple_jam: Great Idea! You’re right, adding a 90s pro studio sound to a cheap no-fi homerecording that was done in the 70s (and they didn’t even use the original recording, Lynne said it was “at least a couple generations down”) HAS TO sound horrible. Maybe they did this for commercial reasons. I don’t think that the “average listener” would have been too pleased with a low-fi record (and one has to think of millions of fans around the world here).
@Jammy_jim: it’s so hard to imagine what John would have done with this song. I think basically he wanted to be authentic and really just play it like it is (and to me the essence of this is his “plastic ono band” album – totally stripped down), but he realized that these “naked” records wouldn’t sell and so he drowned everything in corny violins and horns. To me, starting with the “Imagine” album, every single demo or stripped down version is actually better than the finished product. I think besides considering record sales, John was very insecure – he hated his voice, he didn’t think of himself as a great guitarist (he thaught Paul was a better guitar player than him!) and he never spoke with great enthusiasm of his own songs. This wall of sound production that all his records after “Plastic Ono Band” have was a way for him to hide. His voice is often hardly audible, all the instruments are brickwalled and tend to sound the same. And finally EVERYTHING gets lost in the mix (this happens when one tries to mix 25 instruments down to mono – in the end there’s not much left). This was always a mystery to me: how could he be so unsure of himself? (But maybe it was this feeling that drove him).
Yes he would have agreed with Lynne, and in fact he praised Lynne in the 70s!
And it remains just that – you’re “guess”.
Lennon praised ELO as “Son of Beatles”, so your “guess” holds no more water than saying he would’ve demanded that Lynne do it.
The John Lennon 1998 Anthology Box Set did for Lennon what The Beach Boys Box Set did for Brian Wilson: it confirmed that, despite many poor production choices, the music is, quite simply, that of a genius. His vocals on the Box Set version are wonderful. Also, I have the MSFL versions of POB, Imagine, and Mind Games and his voice is fantastic! There’s a quality in his voice that cuts right through your soul. Quite lovely.
The Beatles? I don’t think so. Perhaps ‘The Necropheatles’ would be more apt.
I feel really ashamed, does George Harrison actually sings on this song? Like all alone? and not on chorus? I believe John sings at the start, then Paul sings the bridge, than John sings again and then the second bridge is sang by George, am I right?
Yep, exactly.
I wish they had used Ringo too just to make it a real group effort. The first time through the bridge is twice as long and Paul sings two lines, then the second time George sings one. That’s three lines total. Each should have had one. 🙂
If they did a third “whatever happened to”, ringo would have been great.
Then it would’ve been unlike anything the Beatles ever did (it was already with three songwriters).
You know, to me this sounds pretty much nothing like a Beatles song. It’s sounds like a Jeff Lynne tune for sure. His production sound is all over this. My understanding (as I said earlier) is that George wouldn’t work with George Martin and I have a suspicion that Harrison never forgave Martin for being dismissive about his work (something G Martin acknowledged, to his regret, that he did). So I think Harrison was highly anti-Martin.
What strikes me is why did they do this record (or Real Love for that matter) at all? Dogget’s book (I think it’s Dogget’s book) claims that the whole Anthology project was resurrected to help George out financially and yet George created all the conditions on the project.
Why did McCartney go along with it? What was Paul’s motive? McCartney’s vocal sounds very solo like and not at all like his Beatles sound.
Really, to me, nothing on this record sounds Beatley – George’s slide is his distinct solo sound (especially with Lynne producing).
So while I realize this may have been more like what their ‘reunion’ playing could have been like, I still don’t think it was. Other than the massive hype around the song, it really sounds more like a weak Beatles wannabe record – which in a way it is.
The footage of John and Yoko dancing are from the I Me Mine section on Let It Be? Also, the car in the last part could be a reference of Two Of Us (“two of us riding nowhere”)
Do you know what does the music “free as a bird” refers to? Did the other three beatles add some verses on the lyrics? I always thought of that music as if John was talking about the Beatles, and it makes me satisfied, but I know I can’t take conclusions by myself, so…
One of the reasons for The Fab 4 break-up was that, approx. by 1968 they all have developed different musical interests (Ringo more acting oriented even). And if you listen all of each exBeatle solo studio albums, even the earlier ones, they sound quiet different to The Beatles. You can call it 70’s sound or whatever but none of them would sounded similar to The Beatles sound any more. And obviuously their 80’s records and so on, sound more different yet. So, since the “Free as a bird” reunion project was based in a post-Beatles track it therefore can’t sound like The Beatles. And if you add that it was recorded by the early 90’s, Ringo’s, Paul’s and George’s ways of playing were even more distant to the Beatles sound. And if you finally consider that Jeff Lynne was there instead of George Martin you must accept there’s no Beatles sound there!!! Their voices are there (minus Ringo’s) but they sound quite diffrent because of all I’ve previuously mentioned. And it’s nobody’s fault, it was just impossible!!! The idea was heartful and tender and the recordings surely were a very nostalgic moment, so we appreciate, like and love the whole thing at all and the song itself but we cannot lie to ourselves: it is a mixture of exBeatles & Lynne’s sound instead of The Beatles one…
the irony regarding the whole debate of Jeff Lynne producing these tracks is that John once called ELO the “Sons of the Beatles” and made the remark that he thought the had the Beatles stayed together they would have sounded somewhat like ELO sounds. I’m not sure he thought that was a good thing by the way.
And ultimately the guy above who made the remark about the signature Jeff Lynne drum sound has got it spot on correct. That’s why from the very first note which has that strong drum hit it sounds like Lynne and not like the Beatles.
I will correct my own remark – in that apparently John did like the ELO sound.
FAAB certainly isn’t perfect. The fact is that John Lennon was murdered in 1980. In the mid-90s the remaining three did the best they could with a few audio scraps John left behind. I’d rather have it than not. It does not add to, nor does it tarnish, the legacy of brilliant music the band left us.
I’ve listened to the original demo of FAAB on a bootleg , like probably most of you have , and I really don’t understand why John sounds so weird on the finished recording . On the demo his vocal is pretty clear and human sounding , yet on the finished recording he sounds like he’s communicating from beyond the grave in some bizarre musical séance . Jeff Lynne clearly put some hard work into his production , but like most people here I think his patent ELO-esque production really fails to achieve the potential of the project . Maybe time for a remix ? Get Giles Martin to do it perhaps !
@Colin: The weird over processed sound of John’s voice could have been caused by excessive noise reduction (a post production tool used primarily to minimize tape hiss) – if you overdo it strange bubbly sounding artifacts can emerge. But considering Lynne is a pro (and in a perfect world pros never fuck up that bad, right) maybe he ran the vocal through a chorus effect or something similar to achieve a fuller sound. Nevertheless you are absolutely right, the unprocessed vocal in the original demo sounds way better than the final version and it’s beyond me that noone involved in the production seemed to have noticed.
The vocals on Lennon’s original demo are poorly recorded and are inconsistent – sometimes very muted and disappearing into his piano part. And his piano part has some mistakes (it’s a thrown together demo after all) and in some places different chords than were used in the final song. So I think Lynne was trying to separate the voice from the piano as much as possible. I don’t know what exotic techniques he used to attempt this but from my experience with recording production I will bet it was very difficult.
You can find remixes of FAAB and Real love on the 1+ bluray
hey this was the NEW BEATLES in the 90’s not the 60’s. they should sound different, yes it was a shame that John couldnt have been there in person to state his opinions. IT’S A GREAT SONG. it’s the bloody Beatles. now 2 are gone BE HAPPY.
Great song and I love the promo as shown on the Beatles Anthology. Extremely clever and poignant. Brilliant George Harrison guitar solo along with every thing else which adds to Lennon’s original 1977 demo.
First time Today, I noticed in the 2nd verse of “What ever happened too” was George singing it, not Paul, like in the first verse! Too bad, they couldn’t have thrown a line for Ringo to sing somewhere in it!!
Paul sings “can we really live without each other” but George excludes that line. Maybe Paul could not live fully without his former band mates, but that was definitely not how George felt.
Paul sings the two lines, George sings the one line plus plays the solo. Even Stevens.
Anybody knows wich models of acoustic guitars are played on this track?
What amazes me are the comments about Jeff Lynne. He did a great job on this and as far as people saying that the drums sound makes it sound like a Jeff Lynne record should go back and listen to the drums on Double Fantasy. Lynne has been a huge Beatles fan from way back and you can certainly hear their influence on him on Concerto for a Rainy Day and The Diary of Horace Wimp.
I love this song although it always reminds me of what was taken from us all.
terrible over the top drum production, ( never drink and drum ) and it might help to take those sunglasses off at least once a year whilst mixing a recording, that’s probably why john’s vocals sound’s so spooky, brilliant production on the bridge though, I must give him that.
What a bunch of whiny whiners. As Paul would say, “Sod off.” For myself, it was my lads’ last session. It was a happy/sad occasion for me to listen to and watch. Loved ’em since ’64. Always will.
The remixes of FAAB and Real love are better on 1+ bluray, and worth checking out. Real love sounds particularly better. FAAB uses different George vocal, etc etc
On this song, Paul sings a few more bars than George. George fills in with a guitar solo. He doesn’t need to to sing to get his point across. This solo says he wishes john was there. Powerful. Go George!
I’ve read in several, admittedly suspect, places that the cassette that Yoko gave to Paul was labeled “For Paul.” I don’t really believe it, as no reputable source has confirmed it. Has anyone else read this and can it be confirmed?
I have also read that.
Very nice chord progression ~ something you come to fully appreciate when working it out on guitar (as I find is so often the case with Beatle songs).
I don’t have any complaints… I understand what they had to do to produce a decent recording. And so happy to hear something ‘new’ by John, Paul, George and Ringo. Same applies to Real Love.. and the videos for both are perfect.
And… I saw The Beatles play live, Dallas ’64.