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Yoko Ono
20 December 2012
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SatanHimself said
I plugged in my vaporizer and got high and then gave a handful of tracks another shot.  

Good Lord – if I tried "Cambridge 1969" (full length) in any sort of altered state, I'd probably start seeing white mice everywhere. It wasn't that one you listened to while "baked", I presume?

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Actually, "Cambridge 1969" is quite nice while altered! :) Feedback and shrieking melting into each other – even more than on "Plastic Ono Band", THAT'S the one where it becomes hard to tell one from the other. (I think Satan implied that it was POB that he listened to.)

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Yeah, POB is where I went with that.  I would appreciate a list of recommended tracks that everyone considers her most listenable (or most vital).  I'd like to give it a real college try, but like I said:  Her stuff is so obtuse that I can't just jump in and wade through any entire album.

E is for 'Ergent'.
20 December 2012
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Ooooh, listy time!

1) You are already know YO/POB – and hey, that's the best one!

2) I dare you to listen to the entirety (eternity?) of "Cambridge 1969" while baked.

3) If you want more of the same, only quieter, move on to "Fly". If you want more of the same, only scarier, move on to "John, John (Let's Hope for Peace)" and "Aü". Then lie down for a bit.

4) If you definitely, emphatically do not want more of the same, listen to the incredible "Open Your Box" (or the censored album version "Hirake"). Repeat.

5) Listen to all available versions of "Don't Worry Kyoko": demo (Wedding Album CD), Cold Turkey b-side (also on Fly), live in Toronto, and live in London (Live Jam, approx. 15 minutes).

6) Yoko also has a few actual songs, e.g. "Midsummer New York" (kicks butt!), "Listen the Snow Is Falling", or "Who Has Seen the Wind". Then there's "Mrs Lennon", which is a bit like "Oh My Love", only scary.

7) Treat yourself to side 3 of Fly ("Airmale", "Don't Count the Waves", and "You"). You will never want to listen to anything else ever again.

The rot started to set in with Some Time in NYC, mainly because of the lyrics. I cannot recommend Approximately Infinite Universe either, except for laughs. Haven't heard all of "Feeling the Space" because what I heard sounded too much like AIU. 

For some reason, I don't really count Double Fantasy, Season of Glass etc. as Yokomusic.

I haven't heard Starpeace, but the cover looks dreadful.

But the "old" stuff is really good! 

21 December 2012
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Velvet Hand, has Yoko written and performed and conventional pop/folk/rock… reggae… jazz… classical… anything…?

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21 December 2012
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She has indeed, although even on the most hummable/danceable of tunes, her voice always stands out as quite unconventional (I think) – so you'd have to like or at least tolerate that.

In fact, I believe that percentage-wise, most of her music is conventional rock/pop rather than head-splitting screeching – it's just that on the whole, I like the screeching (and the music that comes with it) more than the pop stuff.

That said, most of Yoko's early traditionally-structured and -instrumented songs (e.g. "Listen the Snow Is Falling", "Who Has Seen the Wind", "Remember Love", "Midsummer New York", "Mrs Lennon") are really good, and it was only when she pushed the screechy stuff overboard and went pop/rock full-time that the songs began to suffer. I like "Sisters O Sisters" (a little reggae-ish, that one, and a great melody) and "We're All Water" on Some Time in NYC, but the other songs she sings on are embarrassing (just my view though – I can see how one might like "Angela" or "The Luck of the Irish", perhaps because they're duets with John).

Approximately Infinite Universe (2 LPs!) and Feeling the Space (what I've heard of it) are musically pleasant but lyrically painful – a lot of unfiltered feminist rethoric set to professional mid-70s soft rock. Whenever the lyrics are bearable, it's the lack of tunes that drags the recordings down. However, if you're the kind of listener who likes to go for "so bad it's good" stuff on occasion, this might be for you. :-)

I've heard Yoko's songs on Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey, and some of what followed (all pop/rock very much in the styles of its time, i.e. late 70s/early 80s), but wasn't too impressed – I always feel that Yoko needs to go beyond verse/chorus structures and let loose. She did that best on her late 60s/early 70s records, as the albums she's put out since 1995 aren't so hot either…

Hope this helps!

22 December 2012
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Thanks Velvet Hand for that detailed answer.  I picked three songs from your list more or less at random and listened to them.  I didn't like the "Listen the Snow is Falling" nor the "Midsummer New York" (with one exception, when she periodically belts out the word "shake" her voice suddenly actually gets good); the music and instrumentation of "Sisters O Sisters" is pretty good, but not quite up to my taste's threshold, I guess.  One song (just about any song) by the Brazilian pop artist Ceu blows Yoko out of the water, IMO.

 

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22 December 2012
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Ah well, I tried. :-)

But you're right – the "shaaaaake" bit is, for want of a better word, awesome.

22 December 2012
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As far as her actual singing goes, I've always thought she had a nice little controlled vibrato when she's singing really softly – actually, it's pretty vibrant when she's all-out shrieking as well, but it's a little easier on the ears when it's quieter. Her pitch control isn't great, of course; she often sounds flat. (Except when she's sharp.) I've often wondered if it took her and Pattie many takes to get those "Birth-day"s right on pitch. Maybe Pattie was keeping her on-key?

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More generally, I hate to say this, but Yoko sounds like she's disturbed and she's bottling up a lot of darkness and anger and she's in DEEP DENIAL.  Many people go through periods of denial, but she seems to have been that way all her life.  I don't judge non-celebrities, but if you're making money from us peon Peasants, then we have a right to judge you!

Piggies!

 

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I've been meaning to listen to Yoko's stuff for a long time- I like experimental and challenging music- but never got around to it. I've heard "Mrs Lennon", and love the chord progression and atmosphere (later nicked by Big Star for "Holocaust") but I find her voice ruins the ambience. I've also heard "No No No" off Season of Glass, which purports to be her artistic and musical reaction to John's death and starts with gunshots and her screaming- it's pretty harrowing, and the song itself is one of the most bizarre I've ever heard, which is saying a lot.

I'll have to give YO/POB a try, and Fly.

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Thanks for that video, Ben Ramon.  I actually like that song "No, No, No" a lot.  I never heard it before.  Good voice, good arrangement and instrumentation.  I like it a lot better than the selections Velvet Hand recommended (sorry VH -- I'm continually amazed how everybody doesn't share my exact same tastes!a-hard-days-night-paul-10)

I also like that album title Season of Glass, and the cover.  Must investigate further.

 

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Season of Glass was Yoko's album immediately after John's death. I understand it's a pretty bleak affair, as suggested by the cover, which a lot of people considered tasteless. But hey, it's her husband who was murdered in front of her; who are they to judge?

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Ben Ramon said
Season of Glass was Yoko's album immediately after John's death. I understand it's a pretty bleak affair, as suggested by the cover, which a lot of people considered tasteless. But hey, it's her husband who was murdered in front of her; who are they to judge?

On the subject of "No, No, No" as a statement of her response to John's death (I was only commenting on my musical appreciation of it), I don't find it as bizarre as you do; after all, avante-garde artists have pretty much done everything.  She's obviously trying to be circuitous and shockingly provocative in juxtaposition of certain images/themes with the ostensible main subject; and I find she just barely skirts the edge of -- and manages to avoid -- being too cutely "edgy" about the whole thing.

I just had a thought: It would have been clever, perhaps, for her to title the song "O No" instead.

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I just find the music and production is insane; like dissonant New Wave on crack, and she sounds unhinged (not surprisingly). As for the "O No" pun, that had already been worn thin by John on POB and Imagine. I remember when the double meaning of his singing "oh no" in Jealous Guy, How? and several other songs first dawned on me.

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I do not hate her, but I don't love her, and that's all I'm going to say.

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