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Would John have been knighted too?
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That is an interesting question -

First, I don't think John would have been knighted based on the current path John was on. John had left England (Paul still maintains Britain as his legal residence). For all we know John might have become an American citizen. Paul also has done a lot in England, - a lot charitable work and all those Oratorios etc - all part of the English structure.There's a tape of John calling Paul and Mick Jagger (also Knighted I believe) "company men" - meaning very much part of the system - John was definitely not that!

John's public charity work was performed in the US and after 1975 he stopped doing any public charity and said he would do his giving quietly. So I think the things one is knighted fo,r John would not have "qualified" for - as I understand it. And based on the path he was on, no reason to think that would have changed.

The question I wonder is if John had not been
killed would Paul have been knighted at all?
Here's why I ask
Because knighting Paul without John would have created a public outcry - even though John probably would not have qualified for Knighthood. But would the Royals have either capitulated and knighted them both or neither?

And please don't bombard me by telling my how great John was, I love John and believe he was great and would have remained great. I am just saying that as he was becoming more and more Americanized - he qualified less for Knighthood (under the English order).

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robert said:

The question I wonder is if John had not been killed would Paul have been knighted at all?


I agree with you that John wouldn't have been knighted. And I'm going to have to say Paul still would have been knighted. The Beatles made such an impact on the musical industry, I don't see how one of them couldn't have been knighted and Mick Jagger was. Don't get me wrong, I love Mick Jagger and all, but the Beatles were HUGE and you really can't skip over them just because fans might have been upset about John not being knighted. No doubt, there would be at least a small upcry, but I have a feeling eventually John or the Queen would say something about it to stop it.  

Marcelo said:  

There's no point in speculating about "what if John wasn't killed", except if you are writing a sci-fi novel (that I would love to read).

I know, I know, just interesting to think about. As mith said, a LOT of things would have changed, not just Beatles history, but world history, too.

mithveaen said:  

 It might have created a distrance between Paul and John… but we can't be sure.  

I wouldn't think so. If John was protesting British politics, I don't think he would care if Paul was knighted. I think he'd be happy for Paul and all, but I don't think he'd be particuarly offended.

Okay, I think I'm putting too much thought into this – kind of going against what Marcelo just said about speculating if John lived… we can never be sure what John would have done if he was still alive. But still, all very interesting to think about.



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Yeah, the guy in the blue or green shirt with the gray cap who gets cranky with the younger guy in the orange shirt? That's who I meant. :) Any way to see this movie? It's not on Netflix. Not oin YouTube. And it's really captured my imagination.

John Lennon is supposed to be the guy inside the house, not at the door. Watch the trailer and pause at 1.10. There's someone in the background.


Mark Staycer is the actor who plays John. This is his look in the movie. Go to the official website, you can buy a digital download through netflix.


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