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Why I don't like the early beatles
30 September 2012
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Regardless of your opinion of the quality of the early songs, it is beyond question that without the early songs, they never would have had the fan base you need to make something like Rubber Soul, Revolver, and especially Pepper. Without this, the later Beatles never could have been. Something to consider.

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That experience they got allowed them to do a lot more. Once they stopped caring for being simply rock and roll, their softer songs were more appreciated. I suppose from your point-of-view they did better in the styles of music they had more options on, considering nobody was recording songs like Tomorrow Never Knows at that point in time. A lot of bands like the Doors were still just making the Invasion by Pepper. 

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Well as a girl's point of view, I love early Beatles for (let's say it) very shallow reasons: Because it makes me happy.  When I saw Paul McCartney for the first time in a concert, the first Beatle song he played was All My Loving. I felt carried away by the music and though I didn't cry or anything like that, my Cloud Nine ride started and it lasted for months. I was really happy.

 

The Beatles have this amazing charisma that is contagious, just see the comments of people like George Martin and Klaus Voorman. And you can feel it in their songs. It might be "love you baby yeah yeah yeah" but they're authentic. a-hard-days-night-paul-5

 

Now I can understand someone not liking early Beatles and loving late Beatles.

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mithveaen said

 It might be "love you baby yeah yeah yeah" but they're authentic. a-hard-days-night-paul-5

 

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That's the nail on the head.  It's totally honest/authentic/genuine.  I find with most types of music when it's authentic and it's backed up by actual talent, it's usually pretty good. However, I think it's pointless to compare the early beatles with the later beatles.  Up until 1964, they were still really young and had not even experienced a lot of what would shape their lives at that point.  They were still growing as musicans and men - obviously lyrics weren't that important yet and it was more important to just write 'catchy pop songs.'  That said they wrote a ton of really catchy and great pop songs.   So uhhhh yeah, I think early beatles were brilliant in their own right.

1 October 2012
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The early Beatles songs were a must. Music at that time was not complicated and very simple. The formula worked. The Beatles progressed with each album rolling with the times and made the changes they needed to and almost always set the tone for other bands of that era.

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1 October 2012
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GeorgeTSimpson said
Probably many of you know that i don't like the early beatles rock'n'roll songs very much. I've always thought it was because I don't like rock'n'roll but yesterday I listened to John Lennon's album Rock'n'roll and it was simply awesome. So I decided that I just don't like the way the beatles play rock'n'roll.

 

So you just dislike their early rock and roll songs. Why do you say you dislike their first four albums, then? I guess you could call Please Please Me rock and roll at a stretch, but most of With The Beatles, and basically all of A Hard Day's Night is pop.

I get why you like their later stuff better than their early stuff, I mean they were getting better with every album, so it makes sense. My favorite albums are between A Hard Day's Night and Abbey Road, so I don't have a preference between early or late Beatles.

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11 October 2012
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mithveaen said
Well as a girl's point of view, I love early Beatles for (let's say it) very shallow reasons: Because it makes me happy. .

 

I wouldn't call that a shallow reason at all... I think one of the best things you can say about a piece of music is "It makes me happy"... music can do all sorts of things... it can educate you, move you, tug at your heart-strings... but if it makes you happy, what could be better?   That's definitely how I feel about Beatlemusic -- from the beginning of their career to the end.

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I agree with those who believe that the band discovered the 'secret' of making truly amazing music (with absolutely bonkers levels of creativity) later on in their career, but I still love a lot of their earlier work; there's something about the crisp, almost "echo-y" quality to their sound that can be found in their first couple of albums (particularly predominant in Love Me Do, I think) that I sometimes find more satisfying to listen to than the more complex and groundbreaking stuff that came later on. I can't quite place my finger on what the "crisp, echo-y" sound is actually made up of (and probably sound crazy as a result), but to me their early music sounds very slick but simple. However, if I'm honest, I like to view their body of work as one big thing.

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23 November 2012
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First of all, let me just say that I love the early Beatles! In the early days, they were a tight group. By 1968, they were four different clashing personalities, and it took much fighting to get work done. During 1963, John and Paul wrote together. By 1968, Paul would just record songs without including the others. I will admit that the Beatles later music is better (especially George's songs), but I like the excitement and energy from the earlier songs. a-hard-days-night-ringo-6 

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24 November 2012
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IMDeWalrus said
Well --- to each his own -- but for my money, The Beatles' early stuff is among the best music there is out there.   "I Saw Her Standing There" -- "All My Loving" -- "You Can't Do That" -- "Please Please Me" -- "Hard Day's Night" -- wow... excellent tunes --  and they just got better.... I guess John called it... they started at the top and went to the toppermost... 

I don't think of A Hard Day's Night as part of the "early stuff".

 

To me, there were 5 phases of Beatles music:

 

1. Early stuff -- everything up to, but before, A Hard Day's Night.

 

2.  A Hard Day's Night and Help!

 

3.  Rubber Soul/Revolver

 

4.  Magical Mystery Tour/Sgt. Pepper's

 

5. White Album/Let It Be/Abbey Road

 

Each phase has some "je ne sais quoi" about it that puts it into its own category, distinct from the others.  The only place where my scheme may break down is the line between 3 and 4, which I admit may be blurry and could collapse into one "phase" comprising both 3 and 4.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8I believe you missed Beatles for Sale, which came out after AHDN. Help! could just the same go in with line 3, it kind of has the same feeling as RS.

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24 November 2012
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I do like some of the early stuff. However, I do find myself skipping more songs on the earlier albums than on the later albums.

 

Oh and I really can't stand Love Me Do.

24 November 2012
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Funny Paper said

IMDeWalrus said
Well --- to each his own -- but for my money, The Beatles' early stuff is among the best music there is out there.   "I Saw Her Standing There" -- "All My Loving" -- "You Can't Do That" -- "Please Please Me" -- "Hard Day's Night" -- wow... excellent tunes --  and they just got better.... I guess John called it... they started at the top and went to the toppermost... 

I don't think of A Hard Day's Night as part of the "early stuff".

 

To me, there were 5 phases of Beatles music:

 

1. Early stuff -- everything up to, but before, A Hard Day's Night.

 

2.  A Hard Day's Night and Help!

 

3.  Rubber Soul/Revolver

 

4.  Magical Mystery Tour/Sgt. Pepper's

 

5. White Album/Let It Be/Abbey Road

 

Each phase has some "je ne sais quoi" about it that puts it into its own category, distinct from the others.  The only place where my scheme may break down is the line between 3 and 4, which I admit may be blurry and could collapse into one "phase" comprising both 3 and 4.

You missed out Beatles for Sale- with the inclusion of all their output, I find the Beatles' records fit nicely into threes for each stage:

1. The early pop years; Please Please Me, With the Beatles and AHDN.

2. The maturing "folk-pop" sound, the instrumentation changing and lyrics maturing; Beatles for Sale, Help! and Rubber Soul.

3. The psychedelic and fully experimental years; Revolver, Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour.

4. The return to "rock music"; The Beatles, Abbey Road and Let it Be.

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24 November 2012
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Ben, I agree, but I think beatles for the sale is between the early and the "folk pop" stuff

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24 November 2012
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In some ways yes, but look at Dylan's heavy influence on John's lyrics on Beatles for Sale. Lines of such a dark and introspective nature were expected of folk artists at the time rather than pop groups. Combine that with the band's general movement to a sound more reliant on acoustic guitars and I'd say that Beatles for Sale, as far as the Lennon-McCartney originals go anyway, is definitely a folk-pop record. The first three tracks, particularly I'm A Loser and Baby's In Black, are quite a step ahead from most of the songs on A Hard Day's Night.

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