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Why I don't like the early beatles
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Regardless of your opinion of the quality of the early songs, it is beyond question that without the early songs, they never would have had the fan base you need to make something like Rubber Soul, Revolver, and especially Pepper. Without this, the later Beatles never could have been. Something to consider.

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Well as a girl's point of view, I love early Beatles for (let's say it) very shallow reasons: Because it makes me happy.  When I saw Paul McCartney for the first time in a concert, the first Beatle song he played was All My Loving. I felt carried away by the music and though I didn't cry or anything like that, my Cloud Nine ride started and it lasted for months. I was really happy.

 

The Beatles have this amazing charisma that is contagious, just see the comments of people like George Martin and Klaus Voorman. And you can feel it in their songs. It might be "love you baby yeah yeah yeah" but they're authentic. a-hard-days-night-paul-5

 

Now I can understand someone not liking early Beatles and loving late Beatles.

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GeorgeTSimpson said
Probably many of you know that i don't like the early beatles rock'n'roll songs very much. I've always thought it was because I don't like rock'n'roll but yesterday I listened to
John Lennon's album Rock'n'roll and it was simply awesome. So I decided that I just don't like the way the beatles play rock'n'roll.

 

So you just dislike their early rock and roll songs. Why do you say you dislike their first four albums, then? I guess you could call Please Please Me rock and roll at a stretch, but most of With The Beatles, and basically all of A Hard Day's Night is pop.

I get why you like their later stuff better than their early stuff, I mean they were getting better with every album, so it makes sense. My favorite albums are between A Hard Day's Night and Abbey Road, so I don't have a preference between early or late Beatles.

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mithveaen said
Well as a girl's point of view, I love early Beatles for (let's say it) very shallow reasons:
Because it makes me happy. .

 

I wouldn't call that a shallow reason at all... I think one of the best things you can say about a piece of music is "It makes me happy"... music can do all sorts of things... it can educate you, move you, tug at your heart-strings... but if it makes you happy, what could be better?   That's definitely how I feel about Beatlemusic -- from the beginning of their career to the end.

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I agree with those who believe that the band discovered the 'secret' of making truly amazing music (with absolutely bonkers levels of creativity) later on in their career, but I still love a lot of their earlier work; there's something about the crisp, almost "echo-y" quality to their sound that can be found in their first couple of albums (particularly predominant in Love Me Do, I think) that I sometimes find more satisfying to listen to than the more complex and groundbreaking stuff that came later on. I can't quite place my finger on what the "crisp, echo-y" sound is actually made up of (and probably sound crazy as a result), but to me their early music sounds very slick but simple. However, if I'm honest, I like to view their body of work as one big thing.

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IMDeWalrus said
Well --- to each his own -- but for my money, The Beatles' early stuff is among the best music there is out there.   "
I Saw Her Standing There" -- "All My Loving" -- "You Can't Do That" -- "Please Please Me" -- "Hard Day's Night" -- wow... excellent tunes --  and they just got better.... I guess John called it... they started at the top and went to the toppermost... 

I don't think of A Hard Day's Night as part of the "early stuff".

 

To me, there were 5 phases of Beatles music:

 

1. Early stuff -- everything up to, but before, A Hard Day's Night.

 

2.  A Hard Day's Night and Help!

 

3.  Rubber Soul/Revolver

 

4.  Magical Mystery Tour/Sgt. Pepper's

 

5. White Album/Let It Be/Abbey Road

 

Each phase has some "je ne sais quoi" about it that puts it into its own category, distinct from the others.  The only place where my scheme may break down is the line between 3 and 4, which I admit may be blurry and could collapse into one "phase" comprising both 3 and 4.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8I believe you missed Beatles For Sale, which came out after AHDN. Help! could just the same go in with line 3, it kind of has the same feeling as RS.

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Funny Paper said

IMDeWalrus said
Well --- to each his own -- but for my money, The Beatles' early stuff is among the best music there is out there.   "
I Saw Her Standing There" -- "All My Loving" -- "You Can't Do That" -- "Please Please Me" -- "Hard Day's Night" -- wow... excellent tunes --  and they just got better.... I guess John called it... they started at the top and went to the toppermost... 

I don't think of A Hard Day's Night as part of the "early stuff".

 

To me, there were 5 phases of Beatles music:

 

1. Early stuff -- everything up to, but before, A Hard Day's Night.

 

2.  A Hard Day's Night and Help!

 

3.  Rubber Soul/Revolver

 

4.  Magical Mystery Tour/Sgt. Pepper's

 

5. White Album/Let It Be/Abbey Road

 

Each phase has some "je ne sais quoi" about it that puts it into its own category, distinct from the others.  The only place where my scheme may break down is the line between 3 and 4, which I admit may be blurry and could collapse into one "phase" comprising both 3 and 4.

You missed out Beatles For Sale- with the inclusion of all their output, I find the Beatles' records fit nicely into threes for each stage:

1. The early pop years; Please Please Me, With the Beatles and AHDN.

2. The maturing "folk-pop" sound, the instrumentation changing and lyrics maturing; Beatles For Sale, Help! and Rubber Soul.

3. The psychedelic and fully experimental years; Revolver, Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour.

4. The return to "rock music"; The Beatles, Abbey Road and Let it Be.

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In some ways yes, but look at Dylan's heavy influence on John's lyrics on Beatles For Sale. Lines of such a dark and introspective nature were expected of folk artists at the time rather than pop groups. Combine that with the band's general movement to a sound more reliant on acoustic guitars and I'd say that Beatles For Sale, as far as the Lennon-McCartney originals go anyway, is definitely a folk-pop record. The first three tracks, particularly I'm A Loser and Baby's In Black, are quite a step ahead from most of the songs on A Hard Day's Night.

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