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Who was the beatles best guitarist?
29 August 2012
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I just don't get what this conversation about which Beatles song is the most played has to do with topic, Who was the Beatles' best guitar player, that is. Besides, are the most played Beatles songs popular because of the guitar playing? Hardly. Come on, it might be the case ( and probably is) with Jimi Hendrix, but the Beatles just isn't particularly known for its guitar playing, not that the general public ever particularly plays attention to guitar when they hear a top charted song!

29 August 2012
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Von Bontee said I wasn't referring to your long list at all!Lot of great songs in that list, definitely. The fact that they make a lot of people happy is entirely irrelevent to their greatness, however.

I can just guess that you are very wrong here.

Uh, no I am not. Choose whatever current hit song you hate the most – or your most hated hit song from any given year, for that matter – and tell me what makes it great.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
29 August 2012
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And i thought the arguing had been left in the 'never to be mentioned ever again' thread.

 

Of all people John made a comment about Yesterday and its popularity in restuarants and such places. From the playboy interviews

I'm always proud and pleased when people do my songs. It gives me pleasure that they even attempt them, because a lot of my songs aren't that doable. I go to restaurants and the groups always play "Yesterday." I even signed a guy's violin in Spain after he played us "Yesterday." He couldn't understand that I didn't write the song. But I guess he couldn't have gone from table to table playing "I Am The Walrus."

Gotta love that man.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
29 August 2012
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Paulsbass, there is NOTHING to talk over regarding this!

Just because a song is popular does NOT make it great!

Period!

!

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29 August 2012
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Von Bontee said

Paulsbass, there is NOTHING to talk over regarding this!

Just because a song is popular does NOT make it great!

Period!

!

Thank you! I tried saying that, but he refuses to accept it.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
29 August 2012
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Well, surely the two of us together will be enough to change his opinion!

Next topic: Who was the Beatles' best drummer?

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29 August 2012
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Obviously that was George. No argument, really.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
29 August 2012
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Paul drummed on at least 4 songs (Dear Prudence, Ballad Of John and Yoko, Wild Honey Pie, Back In The USSR)blue-meanie.

Im running away right now!!!!

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29 August 2012
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I think he also did on Martha My Dear (and also on Come And Get It but that doesn't really count)

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30 August 2012
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paulsbass said

kedame said

I'm not very well versed in guitar, and I've always wondered what "bendy" playing is. Care to enlighten me?

Always a pleasure to enlighten my favourite poster, even if I'm not addressed personally.

Is that ok, kedame and Ben?

Please correct me if I put it wrong.

 

On the fretboard every fret is a certain note when you press the string.

"Bending" means that you bend the string, thus increasing the "tightness", thus increasing the pitch, so the note gets higher.

Check out "Another girl" or the "Ticket To Ride" fills for examples.

Yes, it's fine if you answer me! Does Paul play the fills in Another Girl and Ticket To Ride?

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30 August 2012
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Von Bontee said
Paulsbass, there is NOTHING to talk over regarding this!

Just because a song is popular does NOT make it great!

Period!

!

I agree with this to a certain extent…as in what is the most played song in any given week doesn't mean it is great. HOWEVER, if a song remains very popular for a very long time, I'd say there is a good chance it's a great song. Why else would it remain so popular? Popularity over a long period of time means people like it, regardless of age. There are great songs that aren't popular, but a lot of the most popular songs on that list…well, they're just great songs!

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30 August 2012
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Oh please give me a break. I'm not the one who's been filling this thread with snarky little remarks like "Feel free to apologize. I might even accept it." Stating my opinion in emphatic terms is not the same as being rude – and is something you've done so yourself many times. If you find exclamation marks offensive, that's not my problem. As for being OT, this whole damn thread is off topic. I'd say that posting a list of 200 non-Beatles songs is somewhat off-topic! (Assuming that's what you mean by OT.)

My viewpoint on this will not change: Popularity and greatness can overlap, and often do; but one is NOT a guarantee of the other.

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30 August 2012
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Paulsbass, I re-read the entire thread, and I've seen you take offense when people challenge your opinion or question your facts. If they apologize, you offer a "thank you", then follow it up with something like "There, you see why you were wrong about that. And you're also wrong about this other thing…" That is what I'm seeing. You may not see it that way. We'll have to agree to disagree about that, as on so many other things.

I assumed you meant "Off Topic", but I've seen people type OT when they meant "Over (the) Top" before. Just felt the need to clarify.

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30 August 2012
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*starts banging head against the wall and looking for the pills*

 

OT is Off Topic. OTT is Over The Top. Anyone using OT for Over The Top is wrong and needs to be retaught internet etiquette and shorthand.

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30 August 2012
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MeanM, if you're looking for an argument, you came to the wrong thread!

Oh, wait…

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30 August 2012
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Von Bontee said
Paulsbass, I re-read the entire thread, and I've seen you take offense when people challenge your opinion or question your facts. If they apologize, you offer a "thank you", then follow it up with something like "There, you see why you were wrong about that. And you're also wrong about this other thing…" That is what I'm seeing. You may not see it that way. We'll have to agree to disagree about that, as on so many other things.

Exactly. Paulsbass (if I may paraphrase Jon Stewart) has a problem with everything we say that isn't "Praise be to the lord Paul McCartney, Master of All Instruments"

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
30 August 2012
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Btw, about your "rudeness": When I say "Let's talk this over another time" and you answer with "THERE'S NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT!" I consider that quite rude. If you don't there's another thing we disagree about

I did not say this. I didn't use all-caps. That would be rude.

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30 August 2012
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Imo you can say the same thing about on paul on guitar that you can say about george on bass. Both played awesome lines on the instruments of which some imo rank among the beatles best's (george on bass: Old Brown Shoe, birthday (both were possibly mccartney), Maxwell's Silver Hammer (I've always liked it), two of us (it's not played on a bass but most people call ot a bassline); paul on guitar: taxman, helter skelter, the end (his solo in the end is probably my favourite; all in all are the end's solos my favourite beatles solos)) but the other one played so many fantastic lines, that for me it's impossible to say that paul was better on guitar or george better on bass) Because harrison and mccarrney are oth my favourite beatles (very few before lennon) i don't prefer any of them when I write this

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31 August 2012
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I am done. Please stop posting, everyone. There's no point left. We are talking about things we shouldn't be, like how rude or unrude someone was, or proper use of Internet slang. My opinions have been stated. I am merely repeating myself for no apparent reason. I can't, in good conscience, let my posts become as personal as they will become if this doesn't end. Paulsbass – I respect your knowledge of the Beatles, and I have learned to value your opinions. We might not always agree, but I propose keeping our disagreements… civil at the very least. I do value your posts, and am still shocked by your dedication in finding those McCartney guitar songs (a few I never knew he played, honestly). However, an dispute is, at it's heart, an argument between two people. I may have been (in fact, I was) too eager to dismiss this thread as worthy of actual debate, and my use of minimal was incorrect. This does go both ways – you aren't blameless. We both need to admit that not everything is meant to be provocative. I don't like getting into forum fights with you – and hope the same is true of you. So, I ask in the name of my sanity, that we please refrain from these forum fights. Please?

Also, you're a Jon Stewart fan? Awesome!! I never expected you to be the one who got that joke, honestly.

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31 August 2012
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Amen to that. I only really skim read a lot of these threads nowadays, but it's bizarre how many of them turn into disagreements over quite minor points which get endlessly debated and elevated out of proportion. Debate is good, but let's have it over subjects rather than personalities.

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