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Who was the beatles best guitarist?
26 August 2012
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The Beatles best guitarist? Eric Clapton. blue-meanie

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Why does Ringo have a vote but John doesn't have any? I don't even think Ringo played guitar on any of their songs. Anyways, that's hard, I don't know. Paul and George are pretty close, so if I do like one's playing better than the other it's really close.paul-mccartney

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26 August 2012
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mithveaen said
The Beatles best guitarist? Eric Clapton. blue-meanie

a-hard-days-night-john-6agreed. Why didn't I think of that

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I'll still take Paul's "Taxman" and "Good Morning" solos over anything Overrated Eric's ever played!

A vote for Ringo instead of John can only be somebody's idea of a silly joke, or maybe an inaccurate use of an iPhone or tablet or whatever

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paulsbass said

Just an example: The two most often played Beatles songs are "Yesterday" and "Michelle",

That is so obviously wrong that I'm really surprised nobody has pulled you up on it. Michelle the second most played Beatles song, please.

According to last.fm (which has 383m Beatles plays scrobbled to it), Come Together is the most listened to Beatles song, then Let It Be, then Yesterday. Michelle is 41st, wedged nicely between Glass Onion and Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

In the last six months, things have picked up for Michelle (up to 37th), but Yesterday has fallen behind Here Comes The Sun.

 

To answer the OP, for me the question is similar to the question as to who is the Beatles' best bassist. Ringo didn't play it, John did on occasion but was quite sloppy, and then you have Paul and George. Each played the other's instrument on occasion, each has some nifty parts on the other's instrument, but when it comes down to it, they can't match the volume of great parts the other one had.

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27 August 2012
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Paulsbass may have meant "most covered" in place of "most often played". "Yesterday"'s #1, dunno if "Michelle" is indeed #2 however.

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Von Bontee said
Paulsbass may have meant "most covered" in place of "most often played". "Yesterday"'s #1, dunno if "Michelle" is indeed #2 however.

It isn't - Something is number 2.

The Walrus said 

To answer the OP, for me the question is similar to the question as to who is the Beatles' best bassist. Ringo didn't play it, John did on occasion but was quite sloppy, and then you have Paul and George. Each played the other's instrument on occasion, each has some nifty parts on the other's instrument, but when it comes down to it, they can't match the volume of great parts the other one had.

Thank you for vocalizing my point.

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Well for my money, George and Paul were the best in the band at their respective main instruments. I don't understand people who consider George to be a better bassist than Paul- although George was technically skilled, he played bass like it was a guitar, which is something one should never do. I think George's general feel and prowess on lead guitar is miles ahead of Paul's experimental "bendy" playing though.

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29 August 2012
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"he played bass like it was a guitar, which is something one should never do" - no, one should only play the bass as if one were Yoda!

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Ben Ramon said
Well for my money, George and Paul were the best in the band at their respective main instruments. I don't understand people who consider George to be a better bassist than Paul- although George was technically skilled, he played bass like it was a guitar, which is something one should never do. I think George's general feel and prowess on lead guitar is miles ahead of Paul's experimental "bendy" playing though.

I'm not very well versed in guitar, and I've always wondered what "bendy" playing is. Care to enlighten me?

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29 August 2012
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paulsbass said

Von Bontee said
Paulsbass may have meant "most covered" in place of "most often played". "Yesterday"'s #1, dunno if "Michelle" is indeed #2 however.

Nope, most often PLAYED on the radio, world wide.

As of 2002... I'd prefer more up to date figures.

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Something is number two - so you were wrong.

Although, honestly, I put much more weight on Last FM - listener numbers fluctuates by area with conventional radio, whereas Last FM counts the number of times you choose to listen to a song.

Edit:

Btw: Consider it took Yesterday 40 years to reach 7 Million plays.

Which one of the uprunners do you consider your favourite to gain more than three million plays in 10 years??

Even if the WOULD put up a rate as Yesterday, meaning 175000 plays a year, they would only make 1,75 Million plays in 10 years – and that's WITHOUT Yesterday making ANY MORE plays!

I haven't the slightest idea what you mean. I don't reject Yesterday is the most played Beatles song on radio. It is.
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paulsbass said

kedame said

I'm not very well versed in guitar, and I've always wondered what "bendy" playing is. Care to enlighten me?

Always a pleasure to enlighten my favourite poster, even if I'm not addressed personally.

Is that ok, kedame and Ben?

Please correct me if I put it wrong.

 

On the fretboard every fret is a certain note when you press the string.

"Bending" means that you bend the string, thus increasing the "tightness", thus increasing the pitch, so the note gets higher.

Check out "Another girl" or the "Ticket To Ride" fills for examples.

That's exactly it. If you listen to any McCartney lead guitar, you'll see he likes his bends.

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29 August 2012
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I didn't forget a damn thing - I stated that Something is number 2 - which means you were wrong to say Yesterday and Michelle were the two most played songs.
I don't give a shit about this petty pissing contest you feel the win - stop trying. Actually, I'm shocked that you are giving number of plays value. From someone who has said that Paul's solo career is better then the critics say it is, how can you then use popularity numbers to make a point?
Oh, and George plays the f***ing guitar solo in Michelle, by the way. You must have forgotten to mention it.

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TBH, I don't really see why Michele gets so much air play, there are a lot better McCartney/Beatles songs out there which deserve more air play.

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You made a specific claim - Yesterday and Michelle are the two most played songs. Walrus used a metric which completely dismantled your statement. You explained your claim, and reiterated it. You were again wrong, and I pointed it out with evidence.
That's what has happened since this has been revived (not counting your helping Kedame).
My point about popularity: You (being the big Paul fan you are) have stated many times Paul's solo career is better then it is publicly viewed to be. Correct? Indeed it is. You are saying popularity doesnt equal quality. And yet here, you try to create a correlation between popularity and quality. Hypocritical? Yes.

Also, you ignored the part about George playing the guitar solo on Michelle. He does.
Edit: I see you did talk about Michelle after I started typing. Ignore my last point.

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I don't understand why something as nebulous as "most played" means a damn thing to anybody anyways. What does the number of plays matter if the number of listeners is unknown? How do ensure that those who listened, LIKED what they listened to? Meaningless, unverifiable data.

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29 August 2012
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I wasn't referring to your long list at all!

Lot of great songs in that list, definitely. The fact that they make a lot of people happy is entirely irrelevent to their greatness, however.

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29 August 2012
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paulsbass said

Long John Silver said
TBH, I don't really see why Michele gets so much air play, there are a lot better McCartney/Beatles songs out there which deserve more air play.

Well, when I play live in front of a cafe and do Michelle, most of the people of any age begin to smile and start humming and nodding their head...

Is "I Am The Walrus" are more innovative song? Yes of course!

But I imagine I might get a little frowned upon when playing THAT...

 

It's just a nice, beautiful song with a certain atmosphere.

Paul McCartney himself said he was astounded by the success, since it was so easily arranged and recorded...

Check out the rest of the list:

Mostly love songs, touching stuff, acoustic, natural stuff.

It is a great song, like most Beatles song, just some songs don't get enough attention. I wasn't really thinking of I Am The Walrus, but rather Mother Nature Son, Strawberry Fields Forever, Norwegian Wood, I've Just Seen A Face etc...

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Yeah, and they have a great acoustic sound (well they are recorded on acoustic guitar after all xD) and they are great for playing. 

 

I think this was first time we agreed on this forum, strange feeling haha.

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