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What was the key to the Beatles success?
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What was the one thing, the one trait, the one main reason they had this massive amount of success? What was it?
Personally, I think the key was timing. In the UK, the music seen was horrible, and needed one good British band to revive it. And, in the US,
I Want To Hold Your Hand came out (and I might have my dates slightly off) less then a month after John F. Kennedy was killed, which put America in a perfect state to receive 4 scruffy British lads with open arms (and open wallets) like they did in late 63/early 64. Honestly, I think they got the perfect chance to hit it big, and took it. They might still have been big in the UK, but I maintain if She Loves You had been the big (US) hit, in September 1963, that all chances of mass American success would be killed by JFK's assination.
What do you all think?

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Regarding talent: We need a poster who was there at the time - somebody like Robert or Celebrated Mr. K, who hasn't posted here in a long long while - to attest to the fact that nothing on USA airwaves sounded like "She Loves You" in early '64...but yeah, it was a perfect storm of timing, talent, looks, etc.

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Vonbontee said, "Regarding talent: We need a poster who was there at the time – somebody like Robert or Celebrated Mr. K, who hasn't posted here in a long long while – to attest to the fact that nothing on USA airwaves sounded like "She Loves You" in early '64…"

 

The biggest hit in the U.S. in 1963 was "Dominique" by the Singing Nun.

Check out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHhyyRByuJ0

Need we say more?

[We DID have the Beach Boys and the Four Seasons though...]

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Ken Dodd had the biggest selling single in the uk in 1965 with Tears, there are always times when songs that arent any good sell bucket loads. Mr Blobby hit no 1 in 1993 for 3 weeks.

Certainly the music scene back in 1962 in the UK and 1964 in the US was filled with bland artists who had about as much charisma as a flat pancake, but then there is also a myth that the 60's was filled with amazing bands at every turn after the Beatles turned up. The Beatles certainly influenced many bands and kicked down the dull safe barrier that record executives had installed after the highs of Elvis, Buddy Holly, Little Richard etc.

In the end it probably has to be timing because if the timing is off then nothing can really come together, all those ifs. But you need to add all the other bits together or it wouldnt have been as insane and long lasting as it has been.  

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And that would be...the unanimous rave reviews of "A Hard Day's Night"?

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vonbontee said, "And that would be…the unanimous rave reviews of "A Hard Day's Night"?"

 

Right on!

And most reviews began sheepishly, as in "You're not going to believe this, but ...."

[Mr Sun King CT, the Ed Sullivan Show is essentially when the Beatles were introduced to America, and the critics' reviews were beyond  belief when seen in hindsight]

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