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What was Apple Co. ?
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19 February 2014
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First of all: I am sorry if there already is a thread about this (which there probably is), but I couldnt bother going through 52 pages to check if there already is a thread about this...

My question: What exactly is Apple?? I have never understood 100% what they were about, why the controversy around it and why everybody hates a guy called Allen Klein who supposedly fucked it up?

Can someone explain this to me?

19 February 2014
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Apple is a company with the beatles

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19 February 2014
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Annadog40 said
Apple is a company with the beatles

yes, that I knew...

19 February 2014
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This info is available all over the internet, but in a nutshell, the Beatles set up Apple Corp. in 1967 to avoid losing 85%+ of their income to the Inland Revenue (ie the taxman). It was set up as what we would now call a multimedia company, with a record label, film division, tailor, retail store, hairdresser, and other offshoots. It all became too unwieldy and eventually was whittled down to the record label, which apart from the Beatles also had successes with James Taylor, Badfinger, and Mary Hopkin (among others). As for the whole Klein fiasco, read Peter Doggett's excellent and essential book "You Never Give Me Your Money" for the full story on Apple and Klein's role in the Beatles' demise.

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19 February 2014
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The Beatles set up Apple as primarily a record label but also a boutique, with plans to branch out into film, publishing, and even electronics. Ideally, it was intended to help finance creative people in their endeavours and ultimately make money for everybody involved. Unfortunately, neither the Beatles nor the folks they hired really knew anything about running an efficient business, and they were taken advantage of mightily. The common perception is that they were just handing out money to any hippie or crackpot or hustler that approached them with a half-baked idea. Actually, Allen Klein really didn't have anything to do with fucking it up himself - he's hated for other reasons.

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19 February 2014
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I see a few others jumped in with some good summaries while I was putting my response together. Here's what I was preparing for you:

tkj, perhaps these pages might help answer some of your questions. If these links jog other questions in your mind, let us know.

from Joe's people section:


from Joe's history section:

There are few more history pages with Apple in the title if you want to look them up.

Hope this helps.


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A headache, a mess, an ego-trip for Paul and John.

Will echo DRBeatles recommendation to read Doggett's 'You Never Give Me Your Money' for a very good, honest, understandable account of Apple. Its one of the best Beatles books out there.

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19 February 2014
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^ Yeah, I'll second that. It was one of the first Beatles books I read and it explained the whole sorry mess that was Apple quite clearly.

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19 February 2014
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I am watching Strange Fruit in stages this week - it's almost 3 hours long.

This Apple Corps documentary is about a lot more than just the Beatles. I am really enjoying it.

I can't help wondering how much Brian would have loved heading up Apple once it started to really take off. It would have given him a new purpose. I would bet my house that the boutique would have been a great success - he may have even convinced the powers that be to leave the mural well enough alone.


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