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What makes The Beatles the best?
31 August 2012
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Von Bontee said
Well, "Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand" was kinda derivative…

Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand wasnt their choice, it was foisted upon them by the record executives who believed they wouldnt make it in Germany without a German record. On the day of recording George Martin had to round them up as they didnt arrive at the studio. (However i know you werent being serious)

 

Wasnt there 3 songs John spoke off as rewrites of earlier tracks: Yes It Is was a rewrite of This Boy ("which didnt work" said John); Paperback Writer and Daytripper. What was the other one, i can never remember it? Any Time At All and It Wont Be Long?

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
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You Can't Do That and I Call Your Name.

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Never heard that before Sun King.

 

Found this thru a 'beatles rewrites' google search

 

According to Lennon, Any Time At All was a rewrite of It Won’t Be Long. But although the chord progressions may have similarities, the two songs are not the same. (Other Beatles 'rewrites' supposedly include Yes It Is / This Boy, Paperback Writer / Day Tripper and Get Back / Lady Madonna.

 

Would never have thought Get Back was a rewrite of Lady Madonna.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
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I remember Nicholas Schaffner in "The Beatles Forever" making the claim that "I Will" was a virtual rewrite of "I'll Follow The Sun". No idea how in the hell he got that notion.

(At least, I THINK it was the Schaffner book. But my memory can be faulty and I'd hate to blame the late Mr. Schaffner unjustly.)

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Maybe it's just me then because I can't hear the similarities between any of them apart from Yes It Is/ This Boy, I had forgotten about that one.

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I always thought Getting Better and Hello Goodbye sounded the same. but I don't think they really do. They just have the same feelings or what.

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unknown said
I always thought Getting Better and Hello Goodbye sounded the same. but I don't think they really do. They just have the same feelings or what.

Paul uses the same voice and range for each, and they have the same… bounce.

It's getting better all the time! You say goodbye!

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I think what makes the Beatles the best is three things:

1. All the things they pioneered.

2. The fact that people of all ages are still listening to them just because they like the music.

3. The fact that all three were very interesting, larger-than-life, opinionated people outside of what they did in music or art.

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Eilwynn said
I think what makes the Beatles the best is three things:

1. All the things they pioneered.

2. The fact that people of all ages are still listening to them just because they like the music.

3. The fact that all three were very interesting, larger-than-life, opinionated people outside of what they did in music or art.

 

I don´t think they´re the best because people are still listening to them. In fact, for me, it´s the other way around. People are still listening to them because they are the best! Then again, maybe it´s the same thing. a-hard-days-night-paul-8

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Eilwynn said
I think what makes the Beatles the best is three things:

1. All the things they pioneered.

2. The fact that people of all ages are still listening to them just because they like the music.

3. The fact that all three were very interesting, larger-than-life, opinionated people outside of what they did in music or art.

Who's the odd one out? Surely not Ringo. a-hard-days-night-ringo-7a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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Aww poor Ringo.
People always forget Ringo.a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

It matters not who you love, where you love, why you love, when you love or how you love. It matters only that you love. - John Lennon
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So I am not discounting the music, always the music, at the same I think the intangible thing that catapulted the Beatles to icon status is that somehow they invited people into what they were doing. Meaning, somehow, you felt included.

Consider, from the very beginning there was the concept of "the fifth Beatle". I know of no other group where people talked who was the outside person that completed the group. No one ever claimed to be the "sixth Rolling Stone" for example.

Consider how often John would state later how so many people claimed "they were the Beatles" (check Lennon Remember interview) yet he insisted no one else really was a part except the 4 of them. Even look at the Imagine film where that guy shows up at John's door thinking that the Beatles were talking to him. Eerily prophetic of Charles Manson.

George always complained about a lack of privacy, that people just felt like they knew him when they didn't.

I could go on and on, but again I think what made them so unique is that somehow they made people feel like a part of the group. Which is so many mourned the break-up, why so many prayed for a reunion, and why, we ourselves, participate in sites like this one. Because we take it personal.

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Just to elaborate further on whar robert said. I don't know about anybody else but I feel sometimes as if the songs are directed at me, like they're singing it to me. Which I get with few other songs by other bands/artists.

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meanmistermustard said

Eilwynn said
I think what makes the Beatles the best is three things:

1. All the things they pioneered.

2. The fact that people of all ages are still listening to them just because they like the music.

3. The fact that all three were very interesting, larger-than-life, opinionated people outside of what they did in music or art.

Who's the odd one out? Surely not Ringo. a-hard-days-night-ringo-7a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

The odd one out was probably supposed to be John, because he wasn't very opinionated or larger-than life outside of The Beatles.

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