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The tricky thread about listening to the Beatles while *altered*...
17 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said
Ode To A Koala Bear is meant to be a nod to Paul's habit, got that from Fab4Free4All. Its not a very good song.

Would be interesting to see what songs Paul wrote either on or about drugs both solo and beatles.

He wrote and recorded a track called Simple As That for an anti-heroin album in 1983, its on the Pipes of Peace album as a bonus track. The fact its not on my itunes catalogue is a reminder that the song is appalling.

I'm willing to bet the majority of McCartney II was devised and recorded while stoned. Also don't forget "Got To Get You Into My Life" is about the discovery of pot.

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Marijuana is probably going to get legalized in the future, I think in some States in US it already is? LSD... now that's a more heavier one.

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Pepper was a drug album ie influenced by. Would agree about McCartney II, anyone who wrote and recorded Mr H Atom had to be under the influence and flying at the time (tho that wasnt included on the final track list). Anyone know of any others?

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Temporary ... Secretary... damn now I need to play it. That song is so weird and catchy xD.

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17 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said
Pepper was a drug album ie influenced by. Would agree about McCartney II, anyone who wrote and recorded Mr H Atom had to be under the influence and flying at the time (tho that wasnt included on the final track list). Anyone know of any others?

Tons of others. Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow by Funkadelic was recorded in one night when the band were all tripping on acid, and it shows. Sly and the Family Stone's There's A Riot Goin' On is a pure binge of a record. David Bowie can't recall any of recording Station to Station because his coke habit at the time was astronomical.

Also, further evidence for McCartney II being a weed album:

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17 August 2012
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Ben Ramon said

meanmistermustard said
Pepper was a drug album ie influenced by. Would agree about McCartney II, anyone who wrote and recorded Mr H Atom had to be under the influence and flying at the time (tho that wasnt included on the final track list). Anyone know of any others?

Tons of others. Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow by Funkadelic was recorded in one night when the band were all tripping on acid, and it shows. Sly and the Family Stone's There's A Riot Goin' On is a pure binge of a record. David Bowie can't recall any of recording Station to Station because his coke habit at the time was astronomical.

Also, further evidence for McCartney II being a weed album:

All McCartney albums are weed albums :) . I love the photos.

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17 August 2012
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Now that we've got the ball rolling, I'll toss in my 2 cents.  

From this point on I think we've established that drugs are BAD.  Don't do them.  

But some people do, and here is where they can talk about how they interpret the Beatles' music while under the influence.

 

Yes, I do enjoy my vaporizer a few times a month.  The Beatles are my music of choice, especially anything from Rubber Soul on.  

 

The first thing that always strikes me is how my brain isolates Paul's bass lines and the interplay with Ringo's drums.  The complexity of the bass parts are staggering, especially given the type of bass that was generally being played in rock music.

And once you really start paying attention to Ringo's drum fills, you really start to appreciate what a groundbreaking drummer he really was.  "Hello Goodbye" is a great example of that.  Sure, you can notice this stuff while stone cold sober, but it makes a very deep emotional connection while a little baked.

The 2009 Sgt. Pepper remaster is, of course, incendiary.  What what you start to pay attention to are all the tiny sound effects, noises and background stuff that's going on.  

And don't get me started on 'Abbey Road'. I usually start thinking about the conditions of how the album came about and how they all sort of knew that this was them going out on a high note (pun not intended).  Once we get to "The End", I'm a blubbering mess of joyful tears.

 

On a deeper level, I listen to even their earlier recordings and I become totally gobsmacked that THIS MUSIC HAPPENED.  It was made 40-50 years ago on recording equipment that I have on my iPhone.  The Beatles invented everything we love about rock music and nobody has ever equalled them in creativity or production.  12 albums in 8 years.  Pure perfection.

 

I'll ruminate more on this later...  Anybody else want to share their experiences or thoughts?

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SatanHimself said

Yes, I do enjoy my vaporizer a few times a month.  The Beatles are my music of choice, especially anything from Rubber Soul on.  

The first thing that always strikes me is how my brain isolates Paul's bass lines and the interplay with Ringo's drums.  The complexity of the bass parts are staggering, especially given the type of bass that was generally being played in rock music.

Agreed on that one- I remember it was when I listened to the Beatles stoned I felt the most appreciative of Paul as a bassist and Ringo as a drummer and their cumulative impact on the music. The other thing- the HARMONIES! I used to sit with my best headphones on, eyes closed, and just listen to those shimmering walls of vocal harmony, picking out each individual Beatle's tone of voice and melody line. 

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17 August 2012
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Speaking of those harmonies, I'm listening to "Two Of Us" right now (and yes...  Altered...).  And John and Paul's harmonies are so natural and playful.  It really feels like they're enjoying each other's company which, considering the circumstances, is such a wonderful thing.

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17 August 2012
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lol at this thread..."Drugs are bad. Now let's all talk about how much fun they are!"

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17 August 2012
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LOL, yes!  Interesting, though... for me as someone who's interested in the brain in relation to music.

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vonbontee said
lol at this thread..."Drugs are bad. Now let's all talk about how much fun they are!"

It reminded me of this scene:

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19 August 2012
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SatanHimself said
Before this thread continues...  Is there some way a Mod could post or link to some sort of disclaimer for this thread?  How about an age or content-agreement link, so that in order to read it you at least have to enter your age or something...?

Speaking strictly for myself and not the other Mods...it appears you guys are doing a great job of policing this thread yourselves.

 

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lol at this thread…"Drugs are bad. Now let's all talk about how much fun they are!"

 Touche'

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Zig said

SatanHimself said
Before this thread continues...  Is there some way a Mod could post or link to some sort of disclaimer for this thread?  How about an age or content-agreement link, so that in order to read it you at least have to enter your age or something...?

Speaking strictly for myself and not the other Mods...it appears you guys are doing a great job of policing this thread yourselves.

 

vonbontee said

lol at this thread…"Drugs are bad. Now let's all talk about how much fun they are!"

 Touche'

Thanks.  I'm trying to find the balance between having the honest discussion while being sort of sensitive that in this context we're saying positive things about drug use.  I get the complete and total hypocrisy involved. 

But that being said, I will continue.

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19 August 2012
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LOL, yes!  Interesting, though... for me as someone who's interested in the brain in relation to music.

...and on that note, I will continue.

 

Two things I've noticed in that state.  One;

The way I engage to or detach from certain albums.  'Beatles For Sale' feels like such a foreign album.  I love the songs, but I feel like there's something blocking me from swooning over it like, say, 'Rubber Soul' or 'A Hard Day's Night'.

'Sgt. Pepper' of course feels so vibrant and alive and when I listen to 'The White Album' I feel like I'm sitting amongst the boys as they're knocking out these goofy and folksy songs.  It's a palpable sensation of inclusion, but with a hint of sadness...  The album that most shocked me was 'Abbey Road'.  It feels dark and inaccessible, like it's daring me to listen to it. "I Want You" becomes this very eerie thing that grows in intensity as the white noise in the background slowly gets louder.  And the Moog synthesizer in "Because" gives me this odd unsettled feeling.  On the upside, the bass and drums (and the overall structure) of "Here Comes The Sun" completely blow my mind in their complexity and the medley is a complete spiritual cleansing. 

 

And two; Anyone who's partaken will be aware of the time distortion.  I first noticed it years ago as I listened to side two of Pink Floyd's 'Meddle'.  The 23-minute "Echoes" felt like it ran on for several hours, but not in any way that became tedious or non-engaging.

Beatle-wise, I first noticed it on 'The White Album'.  The shorter interstitial moments seemed to linger far longer than I remembered before, as I was able to take my time to pay attention to all the bits and pieces that made up the songs.  The side one 3-song volley of "Back In The USSR", "Dear Prudence" and "Glass Onion" became a trifecta of pure bliss.

And yes...  "Revolution 9".  While the running time of almost 9 minutes felt like closer to an hour, my brain *really* understood exactly what it was that Lennon was doing.  The soundscape of noise, samples and effects began to feel like a true statement.  I really should check out "Two Virgins" "Unfinished Music No. 2" and "The Wedding Album" like this to see if the thoughts and feelings carry over.  

I think that perhaps the reason that these recordings so alienate most people is that they were composed under the influence of *something*, and sometimes things like this can only be understood when you're messed up.

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19 August 2012
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SatanHimself said

Eilwynn said
LOL, yes!  Interesting, though... for me as someone who's interested in the brain in relation to music.

...and on that note, I will continue.

 I think that perhaps the reason that these recordings so alienate most people is that they were composed under the influence of *something*, and sometimes things like this can only be understood when you're messed up.

...and of course, that's EXACTLY the sort of revelation (#9) that occurs to you when you're messed up!

Seriously though, I get what you're saying. "Revolution #9" does almost make sense when you're in that zone. Becomes a movie, practically.

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20 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said
Ode To A Koala Bear is meant to be a nod to Paul's habit, got that from Fab4Free4All. Its not a very good song.

Would be interesting to see what songs Paul wrote either on or about drugs both solo and beatles.

He wrote and recorded a track called Simple As That for an anti-heroin album in 1983, its on the Pipes of Peace album as a bonus track. The fact its not on my itunes catalogue is a reminder that the song is appalling.

Funny you should say that because there is now a thread with this song (Simple as That) as the opening highlight. I enjoy it, and I'm always surprised when Ode to a Koala Bear comes on. The title is ridiculous, but the music starts, and I think, "What is this?" When I look and see it is this song, I'm surprised that it actually sounds better than the title suggests.

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Ben Ramon said

meanmistermustard said
Pepper was a drug album ie influenced by. Would agree about McCartney II, anyone who wrote and recorded Mr H Atom had to be under the influence and flying at the time (tho that wasnt included on the final track list). Anyone know of any others?

Tons of others. Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow by Funkadelic was recorded in one night when the band were all tripping on acid, and it shows. Sly and the Family Stone's There's A Riot Goin' On is a pure binge of a record. David Bowie can't recall any of recording Station to Station because his coke habit at the time was astronomical.

Also, further evidence for McCartney II being a weed album:

Isn't that photoset from Band on the Run?

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kedame said

Ben Ramon said

meanmistermustard said
Pepper was a drug album ie influenced by. Would agree about McCartney II, anyone who wrote and recorded Mr H Atom had to be under the influence and flying at the time (tho that wasnt included on the final track list). Anyone know of any others?

Tons of others. Free Your Mind... And Your Ass Will Follow by Funkadelic was recorded in one night when the band were all tripping on acid, and it shows. Sly and the Family Stone's There's A Riot Goin' On is a pure binge of a record. David Bowie can't recall any of recording Station to Station because his coke habit at the time was astronomical.

Also, further evidence for McCartney II being a weed album:

Isn't that photoset from Band on the Run?

I thought it was from 1980, although I could be mistaken.

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I must point out that last night (after I spent 4 hours in court for my lawsuit against my ex) I chilled out with a viewing of 'A Hard Day's Night' on Blu-Ray and a play-through of 'Abbey Road' on CD, while "relaxed"...

 

It's hard the next day to express the joy of what Roger Ebert correctly called "The 'Citizen Kane' of jukebox musicals".  It truly was a magnificent experience.

And 'Abbey Road' knocked me on my @$$, as it came out just 5 years later and represented such an amazing span of growth for the band.  

Name any group in the last 40 years that developed at that rate...

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