19 September 2010
After reading many comments on Song Pages such as Free as A Bird and others, I have been inspired to create A thread asking "Who made the Best Music After the Breakup"? I don't Own A majority of The Solo stuff, but I think McCartney And Lennon Are tied, With George Following Closely behind.
So what Do Guys and Gals Think? John, George, Or Paul?
13 November 2009
My solo Beatles collection has been rather slow growing. As far as complete albums go I have two from Paul (Venus & Mars, Band on the Run), two from John (Mind Games, Double Fantasy), one from George (All Things Must Pass), and one from Ringo (Y Not). The rest have been added individually as people have recommended them. But the question is who is better? Paul's can be overworked, John's too rough, George sometimes has so much going on that it's hard to hear him, and Ringo is likeable enough – nothing earth shaking.
With what I have, I can't decide.
1 May 2010
I dunno, I can say that Paul, John and George are tied. I can't say who's my favorite, I mean, I listen to Watching the Wheels, and then I heard Silly Love Songs and then I hear Apple Scruffs, and I love all the boys the same.
Ringo I dunno. I mean, his work might not be awesome,but when some of the beatles helped him, he's a killer. It makes me smile how the 3 took care of him. I like that.
For me, John all the way. I spent most of my teenage years listening to his solo works, and Plastic Ono Band was for years my favourite album. Imagine is excellent too. I think those two albums eclipse anything else done by the others, with the possible exception of All Things Must Pass.
I have half a dozen or so of Paul's albums, and I've downloaded all of George's stuff. There's some great stuff in both, but as a body of work John's appeals to me most of all. Put it this way, writing the John Lennon section of the website was an absolute pleasure, and if it had existed when I was sixteen I'd have savoured every word. I just can't get that worked up about the others' music, wonderful though some of it is.
I've recently been writing about Band On The Run, Paul's best-selling album. There are some great songs on there, but it's really no masterpiece. His solo stuff's too often throwaway, too jovial, too frivolous, even when the melodies are brilliant. I love Jet and Mrs Vandebilt, but there's no real substance to either. The same with much of Ram. George's solo works are occasionally inspired, but sometimes bland and too often a bit worthy for my liking. Nothing they did can hold a candle to Gimme Some Truth, Isolation or Jealous Guy.
1 May 2010
I agree with you Joe, John's really good solo stuff is still the best. He had some bad ones in there too, but then again so did the others. Paul's stuff is always interesting, but nothing really has blown me away, outside of Maybe I'm Amazed and a few others in there too. I saw a movie a few weeks ago called Lennon and McCartney: recording outside of the Beatles from 1967-1972 and there were people interviewed who were obvious Lennon fans on one side and obvious McCartney fans on the other. The Lennon fans spoke of Macca's work as being okay, and they kept saying BUT it's just not comparable to Hey Jude. They would say things like, Maybe I'm Amazed is a good song with a great melody, BUT, this is the very man who recorded Yesterday, so I got the impression that maybe the bar was too high for Paul. On the other side, the McCartney guys said John's work was good, BUT, it was too simple for them, so no one was really in agreement.
I would say I respect John's work the most, he truly poured his soul out on Plastic Ono Band, but I like George's stuff the best. All Things Must Pass, Living in the Material World, Cloud 9 and Brainwashed have some of my favorite songs of all time on them, plus all of the great stuff with the Traveling Wilburys.
I'm not really sure whose work I like better. I have all of Paul and John's stuff, but I only have two of George's albums (All Things Must Pass and Brainwashed) and one of Ringo's (Y Not), so I can't really judge that much on theirs.
John has some really good stuff, like Jealous Guy and (Just Like) Starting Over, and some bad stuff too, like (IMO) I Don't Want to Be a Soldier Mama.
Paul is very inconsistent. Live and Let Die, Maybe I'm Amazed and Calico Skies are really great, but he has quite a bit of not so good stuff, like Mary Had a Little Lamb.
Incidentally, I think Paul's recent stuff is some of the best stuff he's done. His last two albums are really good.
1 May 2010
This topic made me listen some of the greatest hits albums I got from John and Paul.. and I'm going to say something that might sound very weird or stupid.
First of all, I love Paul McCartney. I grew up listening to Wings. But now I listen to some of his work.. it seems to me that his ego got into the way. He wants his music to sound "splendiferous" (or as we say in Mexico "esplendorosa") and in there, the misses are more than the hits. Now, I don't say that's bad. The hits are just classics : Live and Let Die, Let 'em in, Silly Love Songs, Venus and Mars Show, etc. But when he's less, then the hits are more than the misses, like Mull of Kintyre, Calico Skies, etc.
John's not like that. Maybe because he did his music with his gutar and a tape recorder, sounds "less", but the results are just awesome. Imagine, Just like Starting over, Watching the Wheels, Jealous Guy, Woman, etc. And funny enough, this is the only song I like about Yoko, that of Move over Mrs. L and Dear Yoko… I mean it's not because of her, but I always skip them.
Ok guys so feel free to tell me "No no Mith, you're wrong, you should listen to this "over-the-top" John or this "down-to-Earth" Paul". I'm truly happy to learn.
And George… well George is my favorite so I like most of his music.
19 September 2010
While I respect your opinions, Listen to some of Paul's more recent music. It has a much more down to earth Feel than his 70's and 80's albums.
1 May 2010
You're right. Maybe Paul wanted to prove he was greater than the Beatles, or he could be good without John. But now he doesn't have to prove anything.
And speaking of his latest work… I have 2 words : Electric Arguments. I'm opening a topic about it.
1 May 2010
Mithveaen, I agree with you about Paul's stuff in the sense that he wanted it to sound "esplendorosa", which by the way is one of the greatest words I've ever heard. Paul's solo work just confuses me, there's really no purpose or direction in any of his music. One album is incredibly raw like McCartney or the russian album and another is possibly overdone like Band on the Run. It's confusing because Paul seemed to have the most control over the "artistic direction" of the Beatles at least during the latter part of the 60's, but he didn't seem to have much direction in terms of his own work. He seemed to need John creatively maybe more than John needed him.
That's why I like John's work in comparison to Paul's solo wise, John sort of was who he was and for the most part he just did whatever he wanted with his albums because, after all, he was John Lennon and could basically do whatever he wanted. A primal album, a political album, an album of covers, and finally a comeback album, you can at least tell what John was trying to achieve with the majority of his work even if sometimes it didn't turn out too spectacular.
1 May 2010
Mhh good point Gnik, and interesting. I always get the feeling that the ones willing to go on with the Beatles were Paul (although he broke up the band officially) and Ringo. John had already move on with Yoko, and George was fed up with Lennon/McCartney.
I don't want to say Paul is less, of course not!!! I mean, listen to Electric Arguments. That album should make young rock band to sit in the sidewalk and cry. And we're talking of a man who's almost 70. Forget Chuck Norris facts.. there shoud be the Macca facts. I'm sure Macca can kick Norris's wussy butt.
Edit : I was re-reading Joe's message about what appeals to you. Maybe this is crazy, but John, George and Paul's work appeal to me…. very much the same way. Maybe because I grew up listening to John and Wings, and in the 80s I listened a lot to Cloud Nine. I just can't choose…
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