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The Beatles can use your votes in MTV's Battle of the Boy Bands
29 April 2012
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I hope its ok to start a separate thread on this.So more people will see it.

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April 28, 2012
The Beatles can use your votes in MTV's Battle of the Boy Bands

It's hard to believe that the Beatles would need anyone's help in any kind of contest. But at the moment, they're running neck and neck with New Kids on the Block in the second round of voting in MTV's Battle of the Boy Bands.Also competing in the second round besides the Beatles and New Kids are the Wanted, the Monkees, Big Time Ruth, Boyz II Men, the Jonas Brothers, Hanson, One Direction, IM5, NKOTBSB and Mindless Behavior.

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http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2012.....ands-vote/

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29 April 2012
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It's a bit silly, but I voted for the Beatles. Anyway, I suppose most of MTV viewers/listeners are rather young people (who's Paul McCartney? He's hella old) so I'm rather skeptical as to whether Beatles can win the whole thing

29 April 2012
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Sorry but The Beatles were as much a boy band as Queen are. For them to be voted as the best ever is silly in my opinion.

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29 April 2012
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Agreed.

Is there an option to have The Beatles removed from this poll altogether? I'd vote for that.

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29 April 2012
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Well, technically they are a boy band. But I suppose the name has a very bad reputation. Or should we set about calling them a "manly band"? "Vote for the manliest band!" Why isn't as derogating to call women girls as it is to call men boys? Something just bothers me about that

29 April 2012
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If the basis of being a boyband is only being all male then include Megadeth, Nirvana and any other band that has only male members.

A boyband is generally accepted to be a male band who have been or were brought together by a recording company/manager for the basis of forming a band and being promoted to sell albums and a bucket load of merchandise (tho obviosuly every band noways has merchandise to sell to fans, the beatles being [one of the] first to have mass amounts of merchandise being flogged). I think the first true boyband is generally thought to be The Monkees but there may have been some band before or around that time that came before.

This poll probably only included The Beatles so people would look at it and generate interest.

 

And who on earth are 98 Degrees (who are up against The Beatles)? 32 bands included and one is 98 Degrees!!

(Ive just looked them up on youtube. The world can get very strange at times.)

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30 April 2012
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I have to disagree with you guys, I feel they are a "boy band" and an important bedrock in the development of that style, though not one which should be compared and contrasted with what we think of as a "boy band" today. I don't think, for instance, that they belong on that poll.

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3 May 2012
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I work in a bookshop, and the idiot who runs the music section* keeps describing the Beatles as the first boy band and the first rock band. It makes me rage, because neither description is remotely accurate. In the usual sense of the word they aren't even a boy band. The Monkees maybe (especially at first), but even then, they had some creativity.

One of these people was in a boyband:

 

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Take a wild stab in the dark which one gets screams because he's a brilliant drummer and which one will be thrown on the cessheap once his band stop making Simon Cowell money.

 

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3 May 2012
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And you probably get a discount of the cds? Nice

That kid looks like a Disney boy, whatever his merits are, I hope Cowell takes his responsibility

Upon reading ever so trustworthy wikipedia, it seems people usually think of boy bands as a highly commercial band consisting of pretty boys who all dance and sing. Ok, none of them really danced with the exception of MMT but... It's quite obvious that when they first surfaced big time, they were a very much "marketed" band, mostly because of Epstein, I suppose, wearing uniform suits and hairstyles and writing simple, catchy songs... Of course they later developed as something much more complex. So would it be totally wrong to say tha they started their career as a boyband?

And it's still bugging me that women who are pop musicians are pretty much always referred to as "girls" regardless whether they are in a group or not. Hmp.

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There is a difference in being marketed and being created from scratch which is how boybands are generally thought to be. Epstein had little influence in the music the beatles played, one occasion was the Decca audition set list and the songs they played were wrong (tho they were tracks they beatles would have played on stage + the bands playing was crummy). However apart from that  Brian had little say in what the band played, with the four determined that their own compositions were the singles (at least in the UK). Generally the music boybands make is predetermined by the producer/manager to be in a certain style and repeated forever.

Whilst the songs were written for their audience thats just how things were in the early 60's, most commercial records of the time were composed that way.

Didnt the mass marketing only kick in in 1964 anyway with the US invasion? Dont remember reading about much before then in the UK. Nowdays it comes out well before the first single is released, costs a fortune to get a boy or girl band promoted, and many only achieve moderate success.

 

As for the mtv vote the beatles were thrashed in the 3rd round by Westlife. Once billed as the next beatles by some sections of the media, they enjoyed 11 or 12 #1's in the UK and had a few #1 albums. However their popularity was waning before they decided to amicably split and i doubt few cared by that point. Apart from that all i know is that their songs were incredibly dull and nearly always sounded the same.

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4 May 2012
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And you probably get a discount of the cds? Nice

The music section contains books on music rather than CDs.

I do get a discount at the music store next door because it used to own the company, unfortunately that lapses in June because the bookshop was purchased by a Russian bloke.

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 Take a wild stab in the dark which one gets screams because he's a brilliant drummer and which one will be thrown on the cessheap once his band stop making Simon Cowell money.

Do you really think those girls all screamed because they thought Ringo was a brilliant drummer? Do you think they appreciated Paul's basslines, George's imitating Chet Atkins in his solos, or watched out for the chords John was playing? No, they were screaming because they thought the Beatles were cute. Or at least the vast majority were, I'm willing to bet. Which is why girls fawn over boy bands now.

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