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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
28 July 2014
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I know people have probably asked this before, but why did the Kennedy Center Honors only induct Paul? Why didn't they honor Ringo?

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28 July 2014
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IIRC, he was honored for his contributions, not necessarily the contributions of the Beatles.

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28 July 2014
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Oh so like Wings and his solo career! That makes sense. Ignore my stupidity.

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28 July 2014
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I wouldn't say you were stupid. Of course, you know yourself better than I. a-hard-days-night-george-10

But seriously folks, I thought it was a good question. Glad to help.

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28 July 2014
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What was the schedule for their first U.S Tour?

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28 July 2014
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During their first visit (not counting the Ed Sullivan Show appearances) the tour included only 2 stops - Washington DC @ Washington Coliseum and NYC @ Carnegie Hall. Their fist proper tour of the US included shows in Canada as well and can be found here. A grueling tour to be sure - not so much for the duration of the shows, but the dates. From 19 August to 20 September, they only had 6 days off.

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1 August 2014
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I find it interesting that The Beatles career was bookended by Allan Williams and Allen Klein. The spelling of their first names is close enough. Which of those two bookends did they wind up liking the least?

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1 August 2014
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ahdn_paul_06 I am fairly sure that Paul liked Allen Klein less since he didn't choose him and Allen brought in Phil Spector whose production on Let It Be which Paul didn't like

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1 August 2014
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In the end, I'd say Klein was liked least. From what I've read, they did not dislike Williams, they just got full of themselves and figured they did not need him anymore. I'm glad Brian did not listen to Williams when he advised him to "not touch the Beatles with a barge pole".
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Klein on the other hand, was liked/trusted by J, G & R initially but we all know how that turned out.blue-meanie

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6 August 2014
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During the first few tours they had Paul and Ringo share a room and John and George share a room. Why did Paul share with Ringo and not John? I know that they wanted to not have Ringo and George together but why Paul and Ringo and John and George. Why not Paul and George or John and Ringo.

 

Also when did they stop having "assigned" roommates?

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6 August 2014
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From the Anthology book:

RINGO: Elgin was one of the strangest gigs we played. We'd got all the way to the outskirts of Scotland to find an L-shaped room - and we were playing at the wrong end! I have this vision of the audience all wearing wellies; farmers and country people. The bar was on one side and we were in the other, and you could tell which side was doing the business. In those days they were still laughing at us because we'd be out there in the leather and stomping. Then we got in my car and slid all the way to the next gig.

On that tour we were staying in one of those theatrical boarding-houses. The rumour went round that before we came they'd had a hunchback staying, and we all got a bit worried that we'd be having his bed. George and John went to stay in another place but Paul and I took a chance that we wouldn't catch the hunchback.

We stayed in guesthouses a lot. (We only started to stay in hotels from mid-1963.) We used to come down to London and stay at one in Russell Square.

We'd have two rooms; sharing two and two, and it could be any two. At the beginning it always used to be Paul with me, because I was the new boy and the other two didn't really want to deal with my sleeping habits, whatever they may have been. Maybe I snored, maybe my feet stank; maybe theirs did, but they knew each other. They'd been through a lot of life, I still had to get into it with them.

GEORGE: Doubling up rooms on the tours, after Pete Best left, I used to pair with John because I felt I'd been instrumental in talking them into getting Ringo into the band. I thought that rather than me hang out with Ringo, it would be best if he shared with one of them because that would integrate him better.

As for when they stopped assigning roommates i know that they started getting their own hotel rooms when they touring America so possibly it was the same around England when they stayed overnight between gigs however after Ringo was settled in and really became one of the Beatles instead of their drummer it wouldnt have been as big a deal.

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6 August 2014
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Here's an article I stumbled across today...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....lp00000592

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6 August 2014
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Thanks @WETSRoosa. Never knew about the Devils Horns on the 'Yellow Submarine' album cover, thats pretty cool.

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6 August 2014
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Less cooler is the fact that apparently their concerts smelled like urine. Yuck! Over excited fangirls literally wetting themselves. It's not like I was surprised, it's just that I never thought about it.

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7 August 2014
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I heard that more than once from more than one source, @Linde . Tales of urine streaming down the aisles. blue-meanie

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7 August 2014
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ahdn_paul_06 I hope there are no stories about number 2s blue-meanie

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7 August 2014
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Sadly, those tales would have been told about the Cavern. Toilets backing up were an all too regular occurrence.

Enough said about this line of posts, I believe.

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7 August 2014
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meanmistermustard said
From the Anthology book:

RINGO: Elgin was one of the strangest gigs we played. We'd got all the way to the outskirts of Scotland to find an L-shaped room - and we were playing at the wrong end! I have this vision of the audience all wearing wellies; farmers and country people. The bar was on one side and we were in the other, and you could tell which side was doing the business. In those days they were still laughing at us because we'd be out there in the leather and stomping. Then we got in my car and slid all the way to the next gig.

On that tour we were staying in one of those theatrical boarding-houses. The rumour went round that before we came they'd had a hunchback staying, and we all got a bit worried that we'd be having his bed. George and John went to stay in another place but Paul and I took a chance that we wouldn't catch the hunchback.

We stayed in guesthouses a lot. (We only started to stay in hotels from mid-1963.) We used to come down to London and stay at one in Russell Square.

We'd have two rooms; sharing two and two, and it could be any two. At the beginning it always used to be Paul with me, because I was the new boy and the other two didn't really want to deal with my sleeping habits, whatever they may have been. Maybe I snored, maybe my feet stank; maybe theirs did, but they knew each other. They'd been through a lot of life, I still had to get into it with them.

GEORGE: Doubling up rooms on the tours, after Pete Best left, I used to pair with John because I felt I'd been instrumental in talking them into getting Ringo into the band. I thought that rather than me hang out with Ringo, it would be best if he shared with one of them because that would integrate him better.

As for when they stopped assigning roommates i know that they started getting their own hotel rooms when they touring America so possibly it was the same around England when they stayed overnight between gigs however after Ringo was settled in and really became one of the Beatles instead of their drummer it wouldnt have been as big a deal.

I thought I read in Tune In that both John and Paul took turns bunking with Richey.  It was Harrison's idea and he was somewhat more instrumental in getting Ringo into the band.

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7 August 2014
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I like to visit my local library every month and read the UK magazine Q. It's a way better rock & roll magazine than Rolling Stone. This month's issue features an interview with David Crosby. He mentions the Vatican's recent 10-ten list of all-time pop albums, and amazingly, his rather obscure solo album is number two on the list, behind only the Beatles' Revolver. Here is the Vatican's list: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/15/arts/music/15arts-VATICANSTOP1_BRF.html?_r=0 

What the heck is the official newspaper of the Holy See, L’Osservatore Romano, doing ranking pop albums? Upon reading this, I immediately dialed the Vatican's toll-free number. I said "After all that noise over John Lennon's comment about the band being bigger than Jesus, how could you rate a Beatles album as the top pop of all time? How did you make that decision? And the voice on the phone answered "Christ, you know it ain't easy." *

*Of course, this never happened. Isn't it fascinating that they picked Revolver, though? The whole list is full of, uh… interesting choices.

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7 August 2014
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Oh they also chose (What's The Story) Morning Glory <3

Really strange list though, so unexpected. I've now got this image in my head of the Pope, smoking a joint and chilling out to Pink Floyd or something.

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