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8 February 2010
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As a Liverpool native, can we get your thoughts on what places are worth going to, and which are best avoided? It'd be useful to have an insider's guide on where to go if a visitor has a day or two to spend in the city.

For example, is the Beatles museum in Albert Dock worthwhile? Are there any great pubs with history that a tourist should pop into? And are there places off the Beatle track that tend to be overlooked? I've been reading lately about the Casbah (the official site seems to be down but here's the MySpace page) was decorated by John, Cynthia, Stuart Sutcliffe and others, and the interior's said to still be intact, but it's rarely mentioned in the same breath as Mathew Street, Strawberry Fields, Forthlin Road etc.

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9 February 2010
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mjb said:

Crikey! I bet he didn't do it for free though Laugh


You got that right! But he didn't charge much, as I recall... plus, he picked us up and took us to lunch.

Joe said:

As a Liverpool native, can we get your thoughts on what places are worth going to, and which are best avoided?


Yeah, I'd be interested to know about places like Calderstones Park and the tunnels and secret things that only Liddypool natives are supposed to know about. You can let us in on the secret... as true blue Beatles fans, we are all honorary Scousers! Wink

9 February 2010
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From my experience Liverpool is changing. Some for better, some for worse.

The better bit is that the museum is improving. I last went a long time ago but from what I've read of late there is much more there to see now and I'm looking forward to going back there some time. The National Trust purchases are of course the icing on the cake.

Regarding the 'worse' things that have happened is down to changing life I suppose.  The hospital John was born at is no longer there; Ringo's birthplace is due for demolition (has that happened now?), Massey's music store has gone........

Of course Liverpool council's biggest blunder was demolishing the Cavern, but that was back in the early 70s.

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22 April 2010
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I thought you might be interested in this. It was in the Liverpool Echo tonight. Sorry if the link is too long, im not up on this type of thing!

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk.....-26291096/

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-6I think I'd probably just faint.

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23 April 2010
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Wow, that's amazing. I wonder what he thought of it all? I presume the redecoration is as close as possible to being authentic, but I'm sure there were little things they couldn't get right. I'd love to know Paul's reaction.

I wonder too if he paid a visit to 251 Menlove Avenue while he was there.

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Telegraph article on a Japanese fan who wants to create a replica of John's childhood home on a plot of land that belonged to Yoko's grandfather.

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18 January 2015
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PaulRamon said
Im from Liverpool and its really nice to read all the positive comments on this site about the city and how much people enjoyed being there. I have been working in Brisbane Australia for six months and as lovely as it is, i can't wait to get home next month.

I always felt really lucky being able to visit the Beatles sites whenever i wanted and spending most saturday nights in Mathew St! I have walked down that street hundreds of times but i still get that buzz of being somewhere really special every time i do. You can never walk down there without having to stop to let tourists take a photo next to the John Lennon statue outside the Cavern. I always offer to take the photo so everyone can get in on it.

Its a far from perfect place but for anyone who's a big Beatles fan i'd totally recommend trying to get there. If you soak up the atmosphere, You will really feel what its was like for the boys to have grown up there

I don't work for the Liverpool tourist board by the way!! I'm just proud of the city      

I was in Liverpool a few years ago - my wife and I stayed at the Adelphi - and apart from taking in a Ken Dodd show(we thought it would never end), we spent the following day in the city centre and at the Albert Dock, and even though it's not the original Cavern, I could have spent all day there just soaking up the atmosphere.

We're from Glasgow and are hoping to return again soon and visit the Beatles Story down at the dock. Unfortunately, the queue was too long for us to hang about last time - and it was mainly made up of young foreign tourists which is really encouraging.

We'll be making a point of visiting the Cavern again on our next visit. I'm quite fond of Liverpool and it seems to be embracing its Beatle heritage, which it absolutely should do. London also has a claim on the Beatles but it can't match the appeal of the Fab Four's native city.

3 February 2015
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* Examiner article featuring an interview with Julia Baird about the upcoming auction of (mother) Julia's old home.

* Paul first home in Speke is also going up for auction

[x-posted to the Beatles auctions thread]

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I wonder if the person who owns the door to McCartney's childhood home will buy the house and put the door back on it.

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Maybe the guy who has John Lennon's tooth will buy his mothers house and raise clone!John there!

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Ahhh Girl said
I wonder if the person who owns the door to McCartney's childhood home will buy the house and put the door back on it.

If his plan was to do so he/she has it the wrong way round. You would normally buy the house and then get the door (if it wasnt one that was right). Maybe the person just wanted to buy a door, got the wrong lot at the auction and got carried away and is at home using it as a work bench as it doesnt fit.

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27 February 2015
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parlance said
* Paul first home in Speke is also going up for auction

The home sold for £150K at auction.

Also, the Liverpool Echo has an article with photos on the Beatles' childhood homes (scroll past the sports story at the top).

[x-posted to the auction thread]

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18 March 2015
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I visited both houses last autumn (for the benefit of anyone anticipating a visit, you have to book your visit through The National Trust).

It was a weird experience - on one hand, these two house have been a legendary part of The Story since it first meant something to me in 1963 and, on the other, given how accurately they have been time-capsuled by The National Trust, they are utterly mundane: my friends and I grew up in houses exactly like these.  The combination of quasi-religious experience and sheer ordinariness was like finding the Dead Sea Scrolls on the shelves in Tesco.

I got a very strong sense in Forthlin Road of it being a family home (and one where Paul coped as best he could with the grief of losing his mother), and the point where I realised I was looking at the front cover of Chaos And Creation, only in colour and 3D and without Paul, grabbed me by the throat.

Mendips gave me an incredibly strong sense of Mimi - it's quite definitely her house - and I got relatively little of a sense of John, other than in his bedroom and the porch.

But well worth a visit.

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We also took a look at Ringo's old stamping ground.  The house in Madryn Street is still there, albeit all boarded up, and we discovered - we had no idea - that The Empress (Sentimental Journey sleeve photo) is only about 100 yards away on the other side of the main road, and Nelson Grove runs right down the side of it!

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30 March 2015
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I don't think I ever cross-posted this here. I visited the childhood homes in 2010 and posted a load of photos on another thread. I had to be sneaky because they don't allow interior shots.

Also bonus Madryn Street/Casbah/Liverpool shots, and some of Hamburg on another page. Good memories.

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Txs Joe, those are sweet! 

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Joe said
I don't think I ever cross-posted this here. I visited the childhood homes in 2010 and posted a load of photos on another thread. I had to be sneaky because they don't allow interior shots.

Also bonus Madryn Street/Casbah/Liverpool shots, and some of Hamburg on another page. Good memories.

The Casbah was great. An incredible sense of time, place and presence, and an hour of pure entertainment by way of Roag Best's presentation.  Not to be missed if you go to Liverpool.

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I was shown around by Roag too. Lovely guy, very relaxed about us wandering around, touching the priceless Lennon artworks on the ceiling etc. Everyone who visits Liverpool for Beatles reasons should book themselves on a tour there.

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