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10 January 2014
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I was thinking, over the next few months (years), there's bound to be many threads started saying this, that, or the other, happened 50 years ago today... So I thought I would pre-empt and try creating a thread for all...

So, here is the first entry, it was 50 years ago today that The Beatles first American album was released. No, not Meet The Beatles, which would not be released until 20 January, but the first version Vee-Jay's Introducing The Beatles.

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It wasn't a totally legal album, as Vee-Jay had had their license to release Beatles material withdrawn over non-payment of royalties due to cash-flow problems in August 1963. They looked at what was happening, saw some much needed income coming their way, and thought, "Feck it! We'll deal with the legal problems later! We need the money!"

It was basically the Please Please Me album with Please Please Me and Ask Me Why removed (as well as the count-in to I Saw Her Standing There apart from the "four"). Six days after release, Vee-Jay would receive their first stop order. Capitol's publishing subsidiary Beechwood Music Inc. owned the rights to Love Me Do and PS I Love You, and declared Vee-Jay had no right to issue them.

On the 10 February Introducing The Beatles would be re-released, with Please Please Me and Ask Me Why replacing Love Me Do and PS I Love YouVee-Jay would eventually reach an agreement that allowed them six months to capitalise on the material - which saw album after album released using the same twelve tracks.

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11 January 2014
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Question. Where does the 6th January 1964 release date come from, i've seen it in a number of places (haven't read Spizer's book)? Do a google search for "introducing the beatles release date"and it says both - with the 6th the most prominent.

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11 January 2014
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The 6th is a date that crops up, and it is possible that some copies reached stores on that date, while the official release date was the 10th. There is much mystery surrounding the first version of Introducing The Beatles. For many years, the majority of Beatles books referenced it as coming out sometime in the summer of 1963. That was disproved. Vee-Jay's documentation give it a 10 January release date, so the 6th is just one of those confusing dates around release dates and when things reached the shops in among those early US months.

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11 January 2014
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Nice thread mja - I look forward to the barrage of dates.

Man, I was just a little kid attending a tiny primary school in Llandegfan (Anglesey - North Wales) back then - still liked the Beatles though - Mum was a great one for listening to the latest songs on the radio (when they played them).  We also used to wait for Radio Luxembourg to phase in and out - and loved the pirate stations when they set up shop offshore.

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11 January 2014
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This was actually the first Beatles album that I ever bought (JCPenney, Buffalo, NY), but it was the Stereo (well, it said 'Stereo&#39a-hard-days-night-george-10 version which actually looked a little different, it had a dark brown border around all four sides instead of the white 'Stereophonic' banner across the top.  One thing about it I remember was that the "count in" for 'I Saw Her Standing There' just said "4!" before the song kicked in...:-)

11 January 2014
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This would be the version you had, Billy Rhythm, the 10 February re-release.

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Ironically, as I type this, BBC News are doing a report on its release! Now that's a Beatley Moment!

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11 January 2014
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mja6758 said
This would be the version you had, Billy Rhythm, the 10 February re-release.

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Ironically, as I type this, BBC News are doing a report on its release! Now that's a Beatley Moment!

 

Yeah, that would be the one, but mine still had 'Love Me Do' & 'P.S. I Love You' instead of 'Please Please Me' & 'Ask Me Why', or the same listing as the 'Stereophonic' version...:-)

11 January 2014
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Some early versions of the 10 February re-release came with the 10 January disc because Vee-Jay didn't want to waste stock, but wanted it to look like they were doing what they were meant to be doing to avoid getting sued. Not that it held off the lawyers for long!

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11 January 2014
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mja6758 said
Some early versions of the 10 February re-release came with the 10 January disc because Vee-Jay didn't want to waste stock, but wanted it to look like they were doing what they were meant to be doing to avoid getting sued. Not that it held off the lawyers for long!

 

Man, if only I'd hung on to it, I kept it in pretty good shape too.  The fidelity sounded much better than Capitol's albums, very much the same as the UK releases, good thicker vinyl too with the plain black 'VeeJay' label...:-) 

16 January 2014
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An article revisiting the band's 3-week stay in Paris in '64.

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It was 50 years ago today, while staying at Georges V hotel in Paris, and appearing at the Olympia in support of Trini Lopez, that The Beatles learned I Want To Hold Your Hand had reached #1 on the US Billboard chart. They were "the toppermost of the poppermost". They were lucky enough (despite Paul's constant claim about not doing America until they had a #1) to have a long-standing booking on Ed Sullivan within a month to consolidate their position and introduce themselves properly. Which, boy!, did they do!

On this day they reached the top of the hill, despite all the achievements and wonders that followed, this was the moment! There is a wonderful picture, that sadly I couldn't find via Google, of Brian sat in a chair, with the stunned Beatles all sitting around his feet. He had said they would be bigger than Elvis, but they all knew it was nothing without America, and now they had America!

The "British Invasion" had begun, a cultural earthquake that would change America forever.

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John Lennon, a few weeks later, after they had turned left at Greenland and were approaching New York, John would show a moment of nervousness and ask, paraphrase, "They have everything! Why do they need us?"

The world needed The Beatles, and is still in their debt.

Thank you, John. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, George. Thank you, Ringo.

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20 January 2014
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In commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the release of Meet the Beatles!, Consequence of Sound article on how the album changed rock 'n roll.

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mja6758 said (regarding Introducing the Beatles), "It was basically the Please Please Me album with Please Please Me and Ask Me Why removed."

Interestingly, my copy - looking exactly like the one posted by mja6758 does have these two songs.

"Please Please Me" is the first song on the second side.

Mind you, I bought it after buying Meet the Beatles. It was a tough choice. Was I going to spend ALL my saved up allowance again on an album with such an unattractive cover. They all looked very jaundiced.

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21 January 2014
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
mja6758 said (regarding Introducing the Beatles), "It was basically the Please Please Me album with Please Please Me and Ask Me Why removed."

Interestingly, my copy - looking exactly like the one posted by mja6758 does have these two songs.

"Please Please Me" is the first song on the second side.

Mind you, I bought it after buying Meet the Beatles. It was a tough choice. Was I going to spend ALL my saved up allowance again on an album with such an unattractive cover. They all looked very jaundiced.

OOO! You've peaked my interest! Do you mean it looked like the first sleeve or the brown-bordered second sleeve? If the first sleeve, does it have the correct tracklisting? Does it have a pasted on tracklisting/back? Just I know they slipped version one records into version two sleeves, did they slip version two records into unused version one sleeves with a "butcher sleeve" cover up? Was there a third version that combined the two covers?

Ooo! So much to know! So little time!

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22 January 2014
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CBS have a number of cool clips and articles on the Beatles 50 Years Later, Alley Cats In Agony featuring archival clips with the fans (one female expressing her love for Ringo's nosea-hard-days-night-ringo-10) being one of the highlights. 

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27 January 2014
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Here's an oddity that some of you may not know. 50 years ago today, to cash in on the success of I Want To Hold Your Hand, their first US release was re-released. What was it? It's below the spoiler tab.

Decca 31382, released 23 April 1962!

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The rarest of rare US singles (other than promos, etc.).

It was re-released on this day by MGM, as K-13213, with slight alterations (!) to its description, and reached #26 on the Billboard chart.

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mja6758 said
Here's an oddity that some of you may not know. 50 years ago today, to cash in on the success of I Want To Hold Your Hand, their first US release was re-released. What was it? It's below the spoiler tab.


Decca 31382, released 23 April 1962!

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The rarest of rare US singles (other than promos, etc.).

It was re-released on this day by MGM, as K-13213, with slight alterations (!) to its description, and reached #26 on the Billboard chart.

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Will that be the same release of that some that George read out on Saturday Club when reciting which songs of theirs where in the US charts in February 1964 ("which is a laugh!").

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27 January 2014
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Yes, it is, and thank you for editing your post. I was about to go blue-meanie but now I can ahdn_george_08heart

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I realised that it was a spoiler you posted so amended. Generally i balls up a post and have to go and edit it 45 times before its done, and even then its still got an error in it. I don't edit my posts after someone posts after it, regardless of if its quoted or not. 

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27 January 2014
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mja6758 said
Here's an oddity that some of you may not know. 50 years ago today, to cash in on the success of I Want To Hold Your Hand, their first US release was re-released. What was it? It's below the spoiler tab.

Decca 31382, released 23 April 1962!

Decca31382front.jpgImage Enlarger

The rarest of rare US singles (other than promos, etc.).

It was re-released on this day by MGM, as K-13213, with slight alterations (!) to its description, and reached #26 on the Billboard chart.

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What a difference 2 years makes when it comes to top billing!! Great post.

 

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