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Is this real?
19 April 2013
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
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Never come across this until about 10 minutes ago. Didn't know what else to do with it though I could just get people turning 'round and grinning, "You didn't know!" If fake, remarkable. If real, which I think, even more remarkable.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
19 April 2013
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Apple rooftop
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14 December 2009

Definitely sounds real to me. Nice find!

Very interesting. We all knew it was originally meant to have a slow tempo, but did anybody know it was written on piano?? Which John still sounded pretty shaky on?

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
19 April 2013
Apple rooftop
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1 May 2011

It is John but not a 1965 demo. John Robertson in 'The Art and Music of John Lennon' has a Help! run-thru demo listed as being recorded by John in December 1970 along with 'I'm The Greatest', 'Make Love Not War', 'How', 'Oh Yoko' and 'Sally and Billy' and writes

"During his interview with Jann Wenner for Rolling Stone, Lennon expressed the desire to re-record Help! at the slower tempo in which he'd originally written the song, rather than the hurried take preferred as The Beatles single release. He devoted a minute or so during this composing tape to try and perfect a new arrangement, but succeeded only in dragging the first verse through an agonisingly slow haul, and then giving up in disgust when he couldnt work out the piano chords for the chorus."


"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
20 April 2013
Philippines, the country which no Beatle would dare to perform again.
Candlestick Park
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27 December 2012

^ Pretty much says it all.

This was supposed to be the original tempo until they decided that they wanted it to be a more "poppy" song.

"And in the End the Love you take is equal to the Love you make"
"When I was a robber *Piano Chord* in Boston Place"
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John:"I 'm not"
25 May 2013
Standing There
Carnegie Hall
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14 October 2012

Does anyone have any idea if this is real or not? Its Stu singing Love Me Tender and I'd like to think that its really him, but you never can really know with stuff you find on Youtube. I don't know enough about recording and sound in them days to be able to tell if its real or fake.

Gosh though, looking at the pictures of Stu and Astrid…they were so beautiful stuart-sutcliffe

"I don't think we were actually swimming, as it were, with shirts on, 'cos we always wear overcoats when we're swimming,"-

George Harrison, Australia, June 1964

25 May 2013
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 7237
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1 May 2011

For a while it was hawked around as real, you could buy it on amazon and a few other places, but it was fakified soon after. Pity those who bought it.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
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