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if the beatles were a band today...
1 July 2014
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MrMoonlight
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We've discovered almost everything we can musically and there's hardly any new ground to tread: the main setback is that everyone's trying to be someone else. Everyone's controlled. There are many, many good bands out there (i.e. Tame Impala) but they're very obscure in the main scope of things - you never hear them on the radio. A lot of the main bands are cash cows - do you seriously think they put One Direction together because they'd work well together? No - they're all exactly the same. There's no dynamics between them and there's no working together to write songs or play instruments and harmony - they were put together for quick cash by singing songs directly to the lowest common denominator who know no different because the songs are written to the audience. About the audience. The audience delude themselves into thinking the songs are written for them and them only.

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2 July 2014
12.27am
C.R.A.
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Basically, it boils down to this; 'we're' holding it back.  And I caveat the 'we' because this opinion does not apply to the members of this forum.

First, there just aren't as many record labels as before.  There are only 3 or 4 major labels left.  Without major label, there's no one to seek out talent and promote it.  Of the artists that are signed, only a select few get heavy promotion.  They go in only 'One Direction.'

Digital media!  Do I need to elaborate on that?  Radio?  What's that?  Record stores?  Do they even exist?  Tours... most new talent is left to fend for themselves.  There are still major festivals and such, but in order to ensure a profit, most the bands contracted are established names, leaving few slots for the new unknowns.

We're all -obviously- very much into music here on this forum.  But is the general public?  How many people are interested in discovering something new?  How much of the public are aware of their local music scene?  If it isn't hyped by a VEVO channel on Youtube or promoted as a Top 10 on iTunes, are people aware of fresh talent slogging it out in clubs?  The music industry has consolidated and contracted.  It's product is based on  algorithms.. a guess.. at what people will like, instead of letting people figure it out for themselves.  It's then grossly over-promoted to a point of media saturation.  I watch my kids and see how they discover... and they don't.  It's that 'what's everyone else listening to' syndrome.  Well, they're listening to what's available.  And what's available isn't even close to reflecting what's actually out there.

The grumpy old man that is me loves to say "Put down the controller and pick up your headphones."  If you're a young adult and have the funds, stop going to the multiplex and go see a concert.  Radio may never return to the way it was and sites like Spotify and Pandora may use algorithms, but they also have links for 'similar artists...' People should click those!  Take a chance!  You may find something you like.  And if you do.. go see them!

We're the ones holding it all back.  But things could change.  There's still hope.

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2 July 2014
2.30pm
Linde
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All record stores in my town are gone, and we had a few big ones. I think that really says something.

2 July 2014
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Linde
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thisbirdhasflown said

meanmistermustard said
Not sure what you mean by "no potential" @thisbirdhasflown. I'm not a fan of where modern music is but i do feel that a new energy, direction and burst of creativity is there but something is holding it back. What that something is i dont know; executives, producers, the artists themselves - not sure, but something is stopping the music scene from being reinvigorated which it so badly needs. Nothing stands out as different and exciting and very few artists seem to be willing to do what The Beatles did with Revolver and say to the fans and critics "we're going this way, like it or not, thats up to you" whilst being confident in the results and brave in knowing that whilst some fans would look elsewhere and be lost, others would be gained.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I normally thought they have no potential. But you're right @meanmistermustard. There is something holding people back. I wish that people would let them create a daring record. The record companies have no idea what's going on because they're failing too. That's why I like music from the older times.

thisbirdhasflown

I think that's exactly the problem. Music is very unimaginative these days. The record companies are playing it safe, producing generic music with no ''feeling'' or meaning in it. Money is important, that's what they are in it for. And boybands like One Direction don't give a flying f about artistic creativity. They don't write the music, they haven't struggled for years to make it. They've been in some stupid talentshow and one thought they looked good so they won. Those talentshows have ruined a lot too, btw.

2 July 2014
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ahdn_paul_06 Though in today's day and age all you need is a computer and you could make your own music without any recording company

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2 July 2014
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I'm not a fan of those anything-but-talent shows. I mean, once in a while, you get a good artist. But most of the time, its dull crap after dull crap. Remember William Hung, 10 years ago on American Idol? She Bangs-absolute rubbish! And he got a record deal! And @Linde at least you HAD record stores. We won't have any of those in our town. We have a music instrument store, but half of the room space is used as a print shop, and the owner is not a very good musical technician. He did the audio system for my school's auditorium, and it's rubbish! It sucks. I need to learn how to write and create a really daring record.

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2 July 2014
2.48pm
Linde
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True, but still.

Also, going back to the creative thing. When is the last time you heard a band that didn't sound like fabricated puppets but like a truly creative band? Who were they? Just interested.

2 July 2014
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2 July 2014
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At least 30 years ago. More like 40, really.

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