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I never liked Pete Best..
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30 April 2011
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Because destiny was calling and so that's why Pete was kicked out!!!a-hard-days-night-paul-1

ONE MINUTE YOU'RE DEFENDING THE WHOLE GALAXY, AND SUDDENLY, YOU FIND YOURSELF SUCKING DOWN DARJEELING WITH MARIE ANTOINETTE AND HER LITTLE SISTER.!
16 August 2011
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I Me Mine
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I've always felt sorry for Pete Best — I mean, imagine you were kicked out of the office lottery pool the day before the staff hit the jackpot.  Pete spent two years slogging through those marathon gigs in Hamburg and Liverpool, only to be told on the eve of their incredible success that he wasn't good enough.   I don't blame him at all for trying to get something out of it, nor do I blame his mother for putting it around that the only reason he was dumped was because the others were jealous of his popularity with the girls (she was his mother, after all!).   I think he was basically a nice guy, and his dismissal was not handled well at all. Lord knows how I would have handled the years of Beatlemania if I was in his position.

Having said all that, I think it's pretty clear John, Paul and George made the right decision in replacing him with Ringo.  All we can really go on is what's on record, and Pete's drumming on the Tony Sheridan sessions in Hamburg and the Decca audition in London was competent but unremarkable, and it sounded pretty clunky and obtrusive on the version of "Love Me Do" they performed for George Martin in June.  Based on that, Martin didn't want Best on drums for their first recordings… but I don't really think that was the only factor in Pete's termination, since Martin didn't want Ringo either when he heard him play in September and The Beatles didn't turn around and fire Ringo. 

I think it had as much to do with personality — and to watch Pete in interviews over the years, it seems clear to me he didn't fit in at all with the other three, whereas Ringo matched up perfectly.  In fact, during The Beatles' first triumphant visit to the US, Ringo was one of the darlings of the reporters, who loved his down-to-earth wit  – and of the girls, who loved his "poor mutt" look up there on the drums.  If Pete had been a permanent member of the band, George Harrison never would have been known as "the Quiet Beatle". 

And I honestly can't imagine Pete adapting his style to match some of the quirky and original rhythm patterns established as The Beatles progressed — especially on some of John's mid-period songs like "She Said She Said", "Rain" and the monumental "A Day In The Life".  

No, I think Ringo was the perfect drummer for The Beatles, and history was written the way it should have been.

Still, I'm glad Pete was at last able to rake in some money when his drumming was finally released officially by The Beatles on Anthology 1.  

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I would like to present a document which clearly indicates that in no way was Best not up to the task musically. Unfortunately, most people only base their conclusions of Pete in regards to the Decca audition tape and"Love Me Do" EMI performance. This is rather unfortunate, the Decca audition is perhaps The Beatles at their worst in terms of performance and song selection. It is widely known that Brian Epstein selected the numbers and told the boys to hold back on the "raunch" in order to guess at what the recording executives would expect or what they wanted to hear from a professional band of the time. As such, the entire band gives a rather limp performance with "September in The Rain" being the only track (to my ears) that they are playing relaxed on at all.

The Best version of "Love Me Do" is often maligned, perhaps rightfully so - but one should keep in mind that the version of the song The Beatles were playing at that time included time shifts akin to Bruce Channel's "Hey Baby". In fact, it was Channel who inspired Lennon to pick up the harmonica in the first place, as they toured together in GB. Couple that with the fact that the recording engineer, unfamiliar with rock'n'roll drumming, was requesting Pete try various beats of which he was unable to (he later admitted on film that Ringo would probably not been up to the task either). Additionally, McCartney was now doing the singing for the first time over the (now included) harmonica bits...all these factors were a recipe for a unsatisfactory session.

To the recordings in question - after listening to the first 6 songs of this video/link, in which Pete Best is playing drums, it's my opinion that he was just as capable as Starr and in no way brought down the level of the band. His much-maligned playing ability has been based around an incorrect assumption.

Enjoy, listen objectively and see what you think!

2 October 2013
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Never heard of the band ever being billed as "Pete Best and The Beatles" and whilst I may be wrong I cannot see John standing for that in the slightest. It was his band not Pete's, when there was a star billing it was Long John and The Silver Beatles (or Beatals or whatever it was at that time) because John was the leader and the others knew it. John would never have stood back and seen himself being relegated to any understudy position, he more than likely would have told whoever made the suggestion to fuck off even if it was promoters and then not play in the pre-Brian days. And I cant see Brian allowing it under his watch with his boys.

All my opinion and if im wrong fine, always happy to learn. What's the source?

 

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Ok, found the clip (its at around the 12 min mark) and sorry but that document sounds like its been spun like its a Party Political Broadcast, "When Pete Best joined the Beatles they were a bum band nobody wanted. Less than a year later they were the most popular band in 2 different cities in 2 different countries." Pete was hired because the Beatles had gotten a gig in Germany and needed a drummer. It wasn't because of Pete they became tighter and better, it was night after night playing for hours on end in hostile environments and had to put on a rocking show to get people in to drink.

As for the Paul comment i'd have to see it in Wingspan.

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