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I Just How Realized How Lucky I Am
4 December 2011
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kedame
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Wow! I just had an epiphany, and I am feeling kind of emotional about it. I needed to share it with people who will understand, so here I am.

My sister's fiancee loves Lil Wayne and said he could play guitar, so I looked up videos of him "playing." It was horrible, and his fans just cheered and cheered! I couldn't believe how they thought he was so good! It was funny, but it also made me really sad. These kids have probably never heard a good guitar solo in their entire lives! How sad…

Then, I put on some McCartney…I know it's a little cheesy, but a great feeling just came over me. It sounds crazy, but I feel connected to this music, to the person, to The Beatles as a whole, to all of you. The music is beautiful, the lyrics are great, the talent is there. I know some people like to make fun of McCartney (he's cheesy, looks like a woman, is a sellout (how I hate that fucking term with a passion!!!), he has no emotion in his music (what am I feeling now?)), and they like to tease younger kids that like The Beatles sometimes, but the music means so much to me. It's hard to explain it, but I can see it in the way Inner Light and mith talk about George and in the way all of us talk about The Beatles. But it's not just the music…it's knowing that even though The Beatles could be as fallible as the next person, they were generally good people.

I just can't believe how lucky I am to be able to turn on my computer and hear anything I want by all of them, how lucky I am to have access to videos and photos and interviews…and the music…God, the music. What would I do without it? I would still be in a silent world where I was bored by music.

Goodness, I'm getting choked up here. It's so corny, I know…

I hope all those Wayne fans can feel a modicum of how I feel when I hear the music I am listening to now. I know words and rhythm are important, but damn…the music was fucking gone! I just don't see how you can get a feeling of pure pleasure like MUSIC brings from listening to meaningless words over nonexistent music backing. That is not to say I think all hip hop is bad. For instance, I like Eminem…he doesn't make me feel like this, but his words are at least good.

Jesus, I love The Beatles, and I love Paul McCartney. I am so thankful I was put on this Earth at a time when my musical idol is still making wonderful music!

Forgive my sentimentality!

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4 December 2011
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You know? that's what I feel almost every day. And yes, it's kind of disappointing to know that there is actual GOOD music out there and they listen for example: Justin Bieber. Seriously I don't think he is that talented. and I add to the list: smart. I mean, he doesn't even know the continents! SERIOUSLY. but that's another topic...

But the worst part is when I tell people that a lot of the music they're listenning is not really good, they think I'm a weirdo that doesn't like "party rock" or "sexy and I know it". And for me that is not music, I mean, I could like it for dancing in some parties, but not in my every day life, it doesn't have an emotion for me. It doesn't transmit the feelings that I'm looking for and a lot of these new musicians don't have a lot of talent. Why is there auto tune? I don't think that's necessary. 

Now people is looking for what is trending or what's cute or commercial. Example: twilight had a huge impact in many people, so what did the tv producers do? create shows about wolfs or vampires.

And like you, I feel good that I'm not blind to see that it's not the best music I've heard. Also most of the teenagers go with a singer that is really handsome or whatever and sings just love songs. There's more in the world to write about, really.

So, thank God for The Beatles a-hard-days-night-george-8

And don't worry, it's really good to express yourself to the fullest sometimes a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

PS: 1. I just did apparently!

      2. I don't mean ALL new musicians or singers or whatever. I meant the most popular.

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4 December 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-7 Yeah, I mostly agree with the two of you. Though I hate to say this but... I think a lot of early beatle fans were similar to the fans of Justin Bieber and Jonas Brothers or whatever: they are good looking, make music that isn't too complicated and since many people like them already, it's easier to go with the tide (or something). Luckily for us, the Beatles weren't happy with just "being popular" and developed...Well, more than any other band I knowa-hard-days-night-john-6

4 December 2011
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Kedame… this is the bloody greatest post this forum has ever seen.

Not honestly, but it's close. What it also is is 100% right. The greatest bands, songs or albums are the ones that (for me) draw me emotionally to them. My brother was being, well, typical of my brother, and he was complaining about Christmas music. Well, he was saying that some song was horrible (can't remember what), while everyone else is singing. Now, the song wasn't great, but the song meant something, so I love it. And that's what makes me love The Beatles, or Neil Young, or Arcade Fire. Bruce Springsteen is another example. Listen to Candy's Room, off Bruce's (And The E Street Band's) 1979 Darkness On The Edge of Town. That song isn't neccessarily great, but I love it.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

4 December 2011
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I feel the same way after listening to the morning radio and endless compliments about the most inane, treadmill songs sung by artists who have so little say in the music they release and so little humour. So much of it is designed and arranged by producers and managements so that it is appealing, safe and dull. Personally i feel that the music scene is the same as it was before the Beatles came around. All the big executives are looking for the next big thing which is very very similar to what is already out there. Its what the xfactor and all those talent shows do. The contestants have to tick certain boxes.

The worst thing is that there are good talented artists out there but its nearly impossible to break thru and get any exposure.

 

Anyway I need that Beatles kick afterwards. A refreshing drink of water after the thirst of mainstream commercial music that has so little feeling and emotion in it.

Plus i have no idea how Paul has supposedly sold-out? He's the same as he was 40 years ago, doing what he wants as he wants whilst hoping to please people.

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4 December 2011
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My friend is a Lil Wayne fan and told me about his guitar playing, but I never watched a video before now...and it's clear that he's not really playing in a few videos, but there's that one where he's playing that beautiful black Taylor by the looks of it and I was quite embarrassed watching it...that guitar deserves better.

About music today, there's something missing and I wholeheartedly believe it's intentional, meaning the advertisers and etc are purposely putting out terrible music on the radio to keep people from thinking too much. What's missing is pretty clear and that's emotion. Take two of the greatest artists of all time, John and Neil Young, neither were necessarily great or anywhere near perfect musicians, but each put so much emotion in their songs that they were able to influence so many. So music doesn't need to be perfect, if Lil Wayne can eventually become an adequate guitar player than good for him because he doesn't need to try and play guitar and hopefully he can get a bit better. A lot of people on youtube will be cynical and just say 'well he sucks' but everyone sucks when they first start playing, so if he can put something new in his music than I have no issue with it.

So music today, or good music or artists, seems to be subverted. If we're saying that all music today sucks, we are essentially saying that no one exists today that has the emotion of a John or Neil or whoever and certainly that's not true. I agree with mmm that music today is similar to music before the Beatles or maybe Elvis where we're just waiting for someone to come along and change things. Whether someone will actually be promoted enough to change things is debatable and probably unlikely, but it has to become like a stone, rolling down the hill until it gathers enough momentum to change things...then how will it feel? (sorry)

Things will change though, I'm pretty certain of it.

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4 December 2011
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One of the problems now is that everything is pigeon holed before it becomes known, its labelled good or bad, in or out, acceptable or not, black or white, (can i even say that in very heavily pollitically correct run times?). For music to be acknowledged as playable on mainstream radio it has to a certain way otherwise it will either be completely ignored or get a few plays and then be sent to the archives. Dont get me wrong there are a lot of different genres (eg hip hop, pop, indie) out there that do get played but in each one most of the songs have the same base/sound, so much so half the time you cant tell one apart from the other. To find anything different, and there is plently out there thanks to the internet, either you really have to search for it or rely on recommendations either by people or being in shops, gigs etc. You sure arent going to find it on commercial/mainstream radio or tv unless its at some obscure time.

And i am sick of being told that people with absolutely no personalities or opinions (certainly ones they are willing to voice) are fantastic, great, talented, different. Give me someone with an ounce of willingness to speak their minds but not be so full of themselves they cant take a joke.

Obviously im biased but at least the beatles did. And before people say they didnt offer their opinions pre 1966 listen to the appearances on Juke Box Jury (together and solo, especially Johns (a transcript) where he rates every song a miss including the latest Elvis release (Devil In Disguise), the other panelists and the critics were not best pleased).

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4 December 2011
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I'm not saying all music sucks today. I like a lot of today's music. I'm just saying I'm lucky to know The Beatles. I hate when people say there is no good music anymore. It has a lot to do with where you look for your music. If you look in the right places, you will find good stuff. I was just feeling overwhelmed with emotion last night when I posted this.

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4 December 2011
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I dont think anyone is saying all music today sucks as that would be a very general incorrect sweeping statement. As you said Kedame all you have to do is search for it.

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4 December 2011
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Sure, and we're pretty lucky nowadays that we have the internet to find all of this stuff. I'm not sure I like one complete genre that exists today, I like indie but I feel like it's kind of lazy music, or they try too hard to be indie, whatever indie even means. I like a good portion of the band Fleet Foxes because the lead singer is really good melodically and has a nice voice, but he has some songs with silly names like Tiger Mountain Peasant Song and things like that. It's stuff like that which is a little bit too outdoorsy or whatever you want to call it for me. I love acoustic guitar, but some of those guys feel like a simple riff is enough to have a complete song which is what I would call lazy. So if fairly simple guitar plus slightly odd lyrics and singing equals indie, I feel like that's the genre which should push us forward musically but there has to someone else to come along. It's hard not to try to be Dylan, but Dylan's best songs feature pretty incredible guitar playing in addition to the other elements.

Anyway, that's the stuff I like from today but it's not quite good enough yet, although it could be.

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5 December 2011
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Regarding all the above posts (that I agree with), check out Elvis Costello's lyrics in "Radio, Radio"

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/elv.....radio.html

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5 December 2011
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Not all music from any genre is good or bad. There is diversity between good and bad in all genres. Lots of alternative is just crappy pop, lots of Rock is actually pop crap. And I HATE when people who love the Beatles (on YouTube mostly) go "all music sucks". Um, no it doesn't. I went through my anything new is shit phrase. It was the biggest mistake of my musical life. Yes, the Beatles are the best, but honestly, they consist of about 1/4 of my music on my ipod. That's it. That used to be 1/2. If you care to look, you find the goods. For example, I heard Arcade Fire's The Suburbs on the radio. I then looked up the album, downloaded it, then downloaded the other two. Then, I expanded my tastes, and (with help from my mother and brother) found multiple other bands/artists (Florence and The Machine, Adele, Arkells, etc), which are great in combination with my older loves.

(Gniknus, I love the point about Neil Young and John. So true.)

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5 December 2011
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I didn't know Li'l Wayne played guitar, that's interesting! Even if he's lousy, I still gotta give him credit for putting himself on the line like that, and for trying something different. I can remember when the notion of an MC performing on an instrument was practically unheard of. Today, the hiphop world is so huge that I haven't possibly got a clue as to what's noteworthy and what's commonplace.

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5 December 2011
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vonbontee said:

I didn't know Li'l Wayne played guitar, that's interesting! Even if he's lousy, I still gotta give him credit for putting himself on the line like that, and for trying something different. I can remember when the notion of an MC performing on an instrument was practically unheard of. Today, the hiphop world is so huge that I haven't possibly got a clue as to what's noteworthy and what's commonplace.

I would give him mad props for guitar skills, too...if he had any. I would so respect any hip hop artist who played an instrument. But Lil Wayne doesn't play. He pretends to play and carries a guitar around just to look cool. I wish he really did play the thing. If he is taking lessons, mad props...but I have an issue with plugging up an instrument, while allegedly using someone else's skill to produce the sound. I do think it's great that he wants to have guitar in his compositions, but he really should learn how to play the thing before he attempts a guitar solo. Hell...I'm starting to sound elitist.

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when I listen to Beatles, I feel very emotional, too. it's a feeling I can't describe, a wonderful feeling. it hurts, in a way, when my friends tell me that's rubbish and old and boring. I don't think that they feel this when they listen to their music. I'm not saying that all of today's music is crap and I respect their music taste, but do they dream about Bieber, LMFAO, Lil Wayne, Rihanna or whatever.? I don't think so. do they talk about it all the time.? fortunately not. I do this all the time, I dream about Beatles, I speak about them all the time, I know my friends don't like it, but I can't help myself. those people changed my life, they are my life, even though I've never met them and probably will never meet them. I hope they'll always be a part of my life. my friend is telling me that I'll forget them someday. well I think not. their music is still alive, millions of people still love it. the same is with Queen and other legendary groups. others come and go, they are well-known and then forgoten. 

 

and it's sad when people my age know who's Bieber but they don't know who's Freddie Mercury.

 

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In a few years Beiber will be an embarrassing memory for many and will be a grain of sand on the beach that is music.

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kedame said:

Forgive my sentimentality!

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I'll forgive yours if you forgive mine. What a beautiful post.

We as Beatles fans are truly lucky. We can post our thoughts and feelings about a band that hasn't put out a new album in over 40 years. Call me crazy (you wouldn't be the first), but somehow I doubt there will be a Lil Wayne Bible in the year 2051. If there is, I'll be the first one to apologize.

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Kedame.

 

*hugs*

 

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Sort of related to Lil Wayne playing guitar, but there is a hip hop artist that plays and is pretty sweet too. Wyclef Jean, he used to be in the Fugees I believe, but he graduated from Berklee a few years ago and I've seen him play on youtube and he's really good. That's a success story that I can appreciate because he already was successful before deciding to go to the best music school in the US. More recently he tried to become the President of Haiti, but that's another story I suppose.

So I think it's a good thing that hip hop artists try to infuse some other elements into their music, there was that one Kanye West song that sampled Steely Dan's great song Kid Charlemange a few years ago, or at least the hook. Maybe I'm a dreamer, but hopefully someone with absolutely no clue would hear that song and try to figure out who it was and could get into Steely Dan...we need more fans. Or maybe a fan of Lil Wayne will hear his guitar playing and become interested in slightly better guitar players, perhaps Jimi Hendrix. Or maybe someone who watches Glee will see those kids singing a song and try to find the original version, or maybe someone will watch Across The Universe and investigate the Beatles...and the list goes on.

I will give credit to people who try and use inventive ways to get kids into better music, and if Lil Wayne can do it then good for him, even if he isn't intentionally trying to.

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The fact that small Wayne even compares himself to John is disgusting. 

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