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Hypothetical Beatles album
25 December 2013
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I just made a CD of Beatles solo songs from the 1970's , that I think would have made a great official Beatles album---if they had never split up.

I would love to hear feedback, and what would your hypothetical album be?

Here is the song list:

  1. Instant Karma
  2. Another Day
  3. What is Life
  4. Photograph
  5. Jet
  6. You're Sixteen (You're Beautiful and you're Mine)
  7. Imagine
  8. My Sweet Lord
  9. Maybe I'm Amazed
  10. Working Class Hero
  11. Jealous Guy
  12. Let Me Roll It
  13. It Don't Come Easy
  14. Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey
  15. Dark Horse
  16. Helen Wheels
  17. Every Night
  18. Isn't It A Pity
  19. God
  20. Junk

 

 

Note by Ahhh Girl 13 May 2014: I merged a second thread on this topic into this one. The second thread began with post 7.

25 December 2013
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IveJustSeenAFaceo
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It's a little too many songs for a standard LP, but someone wrote some kind of story about this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....lfth_Album. Pretty interesting. 

Oh, and God would have to some lyrical alterations, considering if the Beatles still existed he would probably still believe in them.

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25 December 2013
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Even though this type of thread has popped up a zillion times here, I'm happy to see an enthusiastic new member.

Welcome Russell!

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25 December 2013
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Great CD Russell, I do have to agree with IveJustSeenAFaceo's comments on it being a little too long though.  The alterations that I would make is dropping 'Working Class Hero', 'Dark Horse', 'Jet' & 'Helen Wheels', not because they're not good songs but because they do seem a little out of place amongst the others to me.  One glaring omission for me is the excellent 'I'm The Greatest' from the 'Ringo' album which is the closest thing, other than 'Free As A Bird' & 'Real Love' of course, to a Beatles reunion that we ever got.  Klaus Voorman, who's very well entrenched in BeatleLore, took Paul's place but everyone else is present and I think that it would be a great opener to the disc.  I'd also switch John's 'God' to the closing slot for a good hard dose of reality after listening to the album, it seems fitting to me in a weird sorta way and I think that John himself would also approve.  It also seems perhaps a little unfair that Paul's 'Let Me Roll It' made the cut without including the original song that inspired his satirical response to John mocking him, which of course is Lennon's 'How Do You Sleep?' (George also plays Side Guitar on it),  perhaps these two great tracks could preceed 'Isn't It A Pity' before 'God' closes the curtains, what do you think?...:-)

26 December 2013
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I think we all have playlists we've compiled on our iPods ……………Mine's a John V Paul ……….Alternating tracks in a similar vein, a screaming rocker from John v one from Paul……..'Poppy' John v 'Poppy' Paul…….etc.

 

I like yours…….I'll nick it.

3 January 2014
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That looks like a pretty great hypothetical double LP indeed! Although I personally would switch "You're Sixteen" for "Early 1970", and probably ditch "Every Night" in favour of "Cold Turkey" just to even out the John-Paul imbalance.

I like the notion of having both "God" and "My Sweet Lord" on the same album!

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12 May 2014
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Imagine...

So, it's 1970. The Beatles are fresh from releasing Get Back and Abbey Road the previous year, but there's a difference - something clicked with the boys. They enjoyed being in eachothers' company. Holding back, they decided to see how the rest of the decade played out...

This is where you come in. They've got all their solo songs from 1970 to John's death in late 1980 set up. There's more of a solo vibe with the songs, but they're churning out an album a year still - which songs from their solo albums make the cut?

Of course, this is all hypothetical. Naturally their solo songs are still solo songs, but more Beatle-fied. But it's interesting to wonder what might have been.

Note by Ahhh Girl: This post was originally the beginning of a new thread. mmm (see post 10 below) pointed out that the new thread should be merged with this one. Merge completed 13 May 2014.

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12 May 2014
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All things must past would be there

 

Maybe I'm Amazed also

 

lets not forget "John Yoko" for the whole B side

 

Give peace a chance

 

Working class hero

 

And all the Beatles would have teamed up and wrote a Starr-Harrison-McCartney-Lennon song called

When the Chicken lands on the doorknob on a Friday mid-morning!

Never say never, cause it's never 'never'

 

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13 May 2014
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I have always envisioned a fantasy scenario (and that's all this is, so take it with a grain of salt) that, upon seeing Lorne Michaels offer $3000 on SNL in '76, Paul and John really do head down to the SNL studio and crash the show, maybe sing a song on acoustic or with G.E. Smith's band, then deciding "Let's do one last album for real" and try to get the other 2 involved. Ringo signs up in a heartbeat, George takes some convincing but eventually gets on board. They get together around mid-1977 either at Abbey Road Studios or in New York to produce this album.

(In real life, John is of course semi-retired to tend to Yoko and Sean, Paul takes a break for Linda to give birth, George takes a break to tend to Olivia, and Ringo's on so much blow he snorted Peru by accident, so '77 really could have worked at that point.)

The band wants to do a real rock record, just straight-up good 'ol rock & roll with no frills to stand out against the disco that was so prominent back then. George Martin is unavailable due to the Sgt. Pepper movie soundtrack, so the band decide to take a gamble on Jack Douglas, Aerosmith's go-to producer at that time. (And future John Lennon/Yoko Ono producer.) Billy Preston helps out on a few songs, as does Eric Clapton on a song or two.

As for the songs? Hard to say for sure, and again all this is STRICTLY hypothetical, but since this is a rock record, and with Jack Douglas producing, some of the songs have an edge to them, like how Aerosmith's songs from the '70s used to. (I always felt Aerosmith's "Major Barbara" was tailor-made for the Beatles.) Maybe John throws in a "Grow Old With Me" to balance all the rock songs. Perhaps a harder rocking Paul song like "Girls School" or "Old Siam Sir" makes the cut. Maybe George's "Not Guilty" finally gets a fair shot on a Beatles record. Who knows what Ringo contributes? ("Drumming is My Madness?") It's hard to say for sure, since we'll never know, but I've always envisioned that if the Beatles ever did reunite for one last record, this is the direction they would have gone.

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There is already a thread on a hypothetical Beatles album after the split here. 

@Zig, @Ahhh Girl can we get a merge. Thank you.

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I should've really searched for "Hypothetical" rather than "1970s" in post titles. I'm an idiot. ahdn_paul_01

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13 May 2014
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Annadog40 said

lets not forget "John Yoko" for the whole B side

LOL

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Happy 1970.

 

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28 May 2014
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Lovely image, that! But "Teddy Boy" is crap. I prefer the double album Russell devised, sorry.

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vonbontee said
Lovely image, that! But "Teddy Boy" is crap. I prefer the double album Russell devised, sorry.

I don't even like Teddy Boy that much either. But I used Paul's mindset. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Ha, I wonder how Paul would've felt about being squashed almost to nothing in that apple-reflection cover photo?

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Managed to find this by going thru another thread. 

Wogblog article on 'Now Again!' a UK-pressed South Korean radio promo album circa 1975 that featured 11 solo tracks from all four Beatles, thought to be the only one authorised by EMI.

The tracklisting is as follows (damn quoting wont display properly)

Side One 

  1. #9 Dream (John Lennon) 4:45 (OLE 1762)
  2. Old Dirt Road (John Lennon) 4:10 (OLE 1758)
  3. Stand By Me (John Lennon) 3:29 (OLE 2006)
  4. Love (John Lennon) 3:15 (OLE 1681)
  5. Band On The Run (Paul McCartney) 5:07 (OLE 1637)

Side Two

  1. Only You (Ringo Starr) 2:29 (OLE 1752)
  2. No No Song (Ringo Starr) 2:29 (OLE 1752)
  3. Photograph (Ringo Starr) 2:27 (OLE 227)
  4. Ding Dong, Ding Dong (George Harrison) 3:38 (OLE 1977)
  5. Dark Horse (George Harrison) 3:52 (OLE 1978)
  6. Bye Bye Love (George Harrison) 4:02 (OLE 1975)

Only one Paul track.a-hard-days-night-paul-7ahdn_paul_01a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Another solo compilation has appeared over at bootlegzone (posted by beatlebren66) tho this time it appears in the film 'Boyhood' and is called 'The Black Album'. Pic below but that track listing is

  1. How? (John)
  2. Every Night (Paul)
  3. Blow Away (George)
  4. Maybe I'm Amazed (Paul)
  5. Woman (John)
  6. Jet (Paul)
  7. Stand By Me (John)
  8. The No No Song (Ringo)
  9. Band On The Run (Paul)
  10. My Sweet Lord (George)
  11. Jealous Guy (John)
  12. Photograph (Ringo)
  13. Junk (Paul)
  14. Love (John)
  15. Backseat Of My Car (Paul)
  16. Watching The Wheels (John)
  17. Bluebird (Paul)

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Far more on the solo Beatles compilation 'The Black Album' as featured in the film 'Boyhood' over at buzzfeed.com including the full track listing, turns out its three cd's, and the letter from the two main characters Mason Sn. to Mason Jr. (father to son) which was originally written by Ethan hawke for his own daughter before being adapted for the film. I Will post both in full.

The letter.

Mason,

I wanted to give you something for your birthday that money couldn’t buy, something that only a father could give a son, like a family heirloom. This is the best I could do. Apologies in advance.

I present to you: THE BEATLES’ BLACK ALBUM.

The only work I’ve ever been a part of that I feel any sense of pride for involves something born in a spirit of collaboration — not my idea or his or her idea, but some unforeseeable magic that happens in creativity when energies collide.
This is the best of John, Paul, George, and Ringo’s solo work, post-BEATLES. Basically I’ve put the band back together for you. There’s this thing that happens when you listen to too much of the solo stuff separately — too much Lennon: suddenly there’s a little too much self-involvement in the room; too much Paul and it can become sentimental — let’s face it, borderline goofy; too much George: I mean, we all have our spiritual side but it’s only interesting for about six minutes, ya know? Ringo: He’s funny, irreverent, and cool, but he can’t sing — he had a bunch of hits in the ’70s (even more than Lennon) but you aren’t gonna go home and crank up a Ringo Starr album start to finish, you’re just not gonna do that. When you mix up their work, though, when you put them side by side and let them flow — they elevate each other, and you start to hear it: T H E B E A T L E S.

Just listen to the whole CD, OK?

I guess it was the fact that Lennon was shot and killed at 40 (one of Lennon’s last fully composed songs was “Life Begins at 40,” which he wrote for Ringo — I couldn’t bring myself to include it on the mix as the irony still does not make me laugh) and that I just turned 40 myself that conjured this BLACK ALBUM. I listen to this music and for some reason (maybe the ongoing, metamorphosing pain of my divorce from your mother) I am filled with sadness that John & Paul’s friendship turned so bitter. I know, I know, I know, it has nothing to do with me, but damn it, tell me again why love can’t last. Why do we give in to pettiness? Why did they? Why do we so often see gifts as threats? Differences as shortcomings? Why can we not see that our friction could be used to polish one another?

I read a little anecdote about when John’s mother died:

He was an angry teenager — a switchblade in his pocket, a cigarette in his lips, sex on his mind. At a memorial service for his “unstable” and suddenly dead mom (whom he’d just recently been getting close to), he — pissed off and drunk — punched a bandmate in the face and stormed out of the memorial reception. Paul, several years his junior — a young boy, really, who didn’t yet care about girls, who was clearly UNCOOL, and who was let into the band despite his lack of badass-ness and sexual prowess due to the fact that even at 14 he could play the shit out of the guitar — chased John out onto the street saying, “John, why are you being such a jerk?”

John said, “My mum’s fuckin’ dead!”
Paul said, “You never even once asked me about my mum.”
“What about her?”
“…My mum’s dead too.”
They hugged in the middle of the suburban street. John apparently said, “Can we please start a fucking rock ‘n’ roll band?”

This story answered a question that had lingered in my brain my whole music-listening life: If The Beatles were only together 10 years and the members of the band were so young that entire time, how did they manage to write “Help,” “Fool on the Hill,” “Eleanor Rigby,” “Yesterday,” “A Day In The Life”? They were just 25-year-old boys with a gaggle of babes outside their hotel room door and as much champagne as a young lad could stand. How did they set their minds to such substantive artistic goals?

They did it because they were in pain. They knew that love does not last. They knew it as extremely young men.

With the BLACK ALBUM, we get to hear the boys write on adult life: marriage, fatherhood, sobriety, spiritual yearning, the emptiness of material success — “Starting Over,” “Maybe I’m Amazed,” “Beautiful Boy,” “The No No Song,” “God” — and still they are keenly aware of this fact: Love does not last.

I don’t want it to be true. I want Lennon/McCartney to write beautifully together forever, but is that really the point? I mean if the point of a rose was to last forever, it would be made of stone, right? So how do we handle this idea with grace and maturity? If you’re a romantic like me, it’s hard not to long for some indication of healing between the two of them. All signs point that way.

When Paul went on SNL recently, he played almost all LENNON. And he did it with obvious joy.

Listen to McCartney’s “Here Today.”

Can you listen to “Two Of Us” (the last song they wrote side by side) and not hurt a little? What were those two motherless boys who hugged in the middle of the road so long ago thinking as they wrote “The Two Of Us have memories longer then the road that stretches out ahead”?

The dynamic of their breakup, like any divorce, is mysterious. Some say that Paul, the pupil, had surpassed John, the mentor, and they couldn’t reach a new balance. Some say Paul was a little snot who bought the publishing rights out from underneath the other three. Others say without Brian Epstein there was no mediator between their egos. Who knows.

I played Samantha “Hey Jude” the other day, and of course she listened to it over and over. I told her the song had been written by McCartney for Lennon’s son after Lennon’s divorce and she listened even more intently. George once said that “Hey Jude” was the beginning of the end for the Beatles. Brian Epstein had just died and John & Paul were left alone to run the brand-new Apple label. They recorded “Hey Jude” and “Revolution” as a single. Normally, Brian would decide which song was the A-side and which was the B-side, but now it was up to the boys. John thought “Revolution” was an important political rock song and that they needed to establish themselves as an adult band. Paul thought “Revolution” was brilliant but that The Beatles were primarily a pop band and so they should lead with “Hey Jude.” He knew it would be a monster hit and that the politics should come on a subversive B-side. They had a vote. “Hey Jude” won 3-1. George said that John felt Paul had pulled off a kind of coup d’etat. He wasn’t visibly upset but he began to withdraw. It was no longer his band.

The irony/punch line of this story is another story I once heard: When the “Hey Jude”/”Revolution” single was hot off the press, the boys had the mischievous idea of bringing their own new single to a Rolling Stones record-release listening party. Mick Jagger says that once the Fab Four arrived and let word of their new single slip — just as Side 1 of the Stones’ big new album was finishing — everyone clamored to hear it. Once The Beatles were on, they just kept flipping the single over and over. Side 2 of BEGGARS BANQUET never even found the needle.

So no matter how mad John was, he wasn’t that mad…

Once when John was asked whether he would ever play with Paul again, he answered: “It would always be about, ‘Play what?’ It’s about the music. We play well together — if he had an idea and needed me, I’d be interested.”

I love that.

Maybe the lesson is: Love doesn’t last, but the music love creates just might.

Your mom and I couldn’t make love last, but you are the music, my man.

“And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love…”

I love you. Happy birthday.

Your Dad

And the 3-cd track listing.

Disc 1:
1. Paul McCartney & Wings, “Band on the Run”
2. George Harrison, “My Sweet Lord”
3. John Lennon feat. The Flux Fiddlers & the Plastic Ono Band, “Jealous Guy”
4. Ringo Starr, “Photograph”
5. John Lennon, “How?”
6. Paul McCartney, “Every Night”
7. George Harrison, “Blow Away”
8. Paul McCartney, “Maybe I’m Amazed”
9. John Lennon, “Woman”
10.Paul McCartney & Wings, “Jet”
11. John Lennon, “Stand by Me”
12. Ringo Starr, “No No Song”
13. Paul McCartney, “Junk”
14. John Lennon, “Love”
15. Paul McCartney & Linda McCartney, “The Back Seat of My Car”
16. John Lennon, “Watching the Wheels”
17. John Lennon, “Mind Games”
18. Paul McCartney & Wings, “Bluebird”
19. John Lennon, “Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)”
20. George Harrison, “What Is Life”

Disc 2:
1. John Lennon, “God”
2. Wings, “Listen to What the Man Said”
3. John Lennon, “Crippled Inside”
4. Ringo Starr, “You’re Sixteen You’re Beautiful (And You’re Mine)”
5. Paul McCartney & Wings, “Let Me Roll It”
6. John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band, “Power to the People”
7. Paul McCartney, “Another Day”
8. George Harrison, “If Not For You (2001 Digital Remaster)”
9. John Lennon, “(Just Like) Starting Over”
10. Wings, “Let ‘Em In”
11. John Lennon, “Mother”
12. Paul McCartney & Wings, “Helen Wheels”
13. John Lennon, “I Found Out”
14. Paul McCartney & Linda McCartney, “Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey”
15. John Lennon, Yoko Ono & The Plastic Ono Band, “Instant Karma! (We All Shine On)”
15. George Harrison, “Not Guilty (2004 Digital Remaster)”
16. Paul McCartney & Linda McCartney, “Heart of the Country”
17. John Lennon, “Oh Yoko!”
18. Wings, “Mull of Kintyre”
19. Ringo Starr, “It Don’t Come Easy”

Disc 3:
1. John Lennon, “Grow Old With Me (2010 Remaster)”
2. Wings, “Silly Love Songs”
3. The Beatles, “Real Love
4. Paul McCartney & Wings, “My Love”
5. John Lennon, “Oh My Love”
6. George Harrison, “Give Me Love (Give Me Peace on Earth)”
7. Paul McCartney, “Pipes of Peace”
8. John Lennon, “Imagine”
9. Paul McCartney, “Here Today”
10. George Harrison, “All Things Must Pass”
11. Paul McCartney, “And I Love Her (Live on MTV Unplugged)”

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