The Beatles Bible - Topic: Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

mithveaen on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Sun, 05 Aug 2012 03:33:18 +0100

Really? To me Wah-wah sounds very George. Maybe because of the lyrics.

GeorgeTSimpson on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:34:20 +0100

I always thought wah-wah is a bit influenced by paul/john, because it's kind of a pop/rock song george wouldn't normally write but paul and john would.

Anyway I always thought when the Beatles had released Man We Was Lonely, the chorus would have been sung by all four beatles and the verses by paul alone (like carry that weight)

fabfouremily on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Sat, 04 Aug 2012 08:48:09 +0100

And that's another way of looking at it. Oh! I don't know anymore.

The Walrus on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:13:57 +0100

I always thought George was having a dig at Paul, because Ob-la-di Ob-la-da doesn't tell us anything about Paul- "can you show me where you are?"

vonbontee on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:57:29 +0100

That does sound more like the George we know.

fabfouremily on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:25:43 +0100

Hahah yeah I know, that's what I thought when I first read it. Trust it to be George to put a more sinister tone onto a song that's so happy.

meanmistermustard on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:20:07 +0100

You could be right fabfouremily, its a different angle to the lyric and a pretty interesting one at that.

fabfouremily on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:44:27 +0100

It could be that, it could be what I said. I dunno. I was just sharing what I read somewhere.

meanmistermustard on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:42:01 +0100

Have always seen "we all know ob-la-di ob-la-da" as being a dig at having had endless sessions recording the darn thing. The kind of irritation and pain you get when you have toothache from eating too many chocolates

vonbontee on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:29:39 +0100

Really? That's interesting! I didn't think George would ever have any good things to say about "Ob-La-Di..."

fabfouremily on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 09:00:02 +0100

vonbontee said
As for deliberate, specific influence...Why would George add the line "We all know Ob-La-Di-Bla-Da" to "Savoy Truffle"? Did he just decide he liked the way the phrase sounded; did he need a few syllables to fill a hole; was it a wry comment on the song's overfamiliarity after they were forced to play 50 takes? It's fun to speculate.

I read that he said that because Ob-la-di is such a happy song and he wanted to suggest with Savoy Truffle that life isn't so jolly and it might not go on. Basically because if you'll have to have ...

The Walrus on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 03 Aug 2012 01:05:36 +0100

(Just Like) Starting Over could easily be a Paul song.

Man We Was Lonely sounds like John wrote (and sang) the chorus and Paul the verse.

Maxine (Traveling Wilburys) sounds a lot like a Paul song (one of his characters), with John's sense of humour ("it was a photo of a woman on a llama").

vonbontee on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Thu, 02 Aug 2012 22:27:50 +0100

Not that there was necessarily any deliberate sign of stylistic imitation; but I think if we didn't know any better, we'd all SWEAR that "Mean Mr. Mustard" was much more of a "Paul" than a "John" song - bouncy piano, goofy subject matter.

As for deliberate, specific influence...Why would George add the line "We all know Ob-La-Di-Bla-Da" to "Savoy Truffle"? Did he just decide he liked the way the phrase sounded; did he need a few syllables to fill a hole; was it a wry comment on the song's overfamiliarity after they were forced to play 50 takes? It's fun to ...

kelicopter on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:45:09 +0100

Somebody mentioned Paul's "Another Day" in a different thread, and it reminds me of George and the kind of things he was producing around the same time, ATMP-era. There's something about that guitar.

Ben Ramon on Hearing John's or George's influence in Paul's songs and vice versa.

Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:58:23 +0100

I think some of John's poppier output in the late '70s was trying to incorporate an element of McCartneyism, seeing as Paul had just had huge success and a world tour with Wings using that polished, funky stadium rock sound on Band on the Run and Venus and Mars. I think "Whatever Gets You Thru the Night" and "Listen to What The Man Said" have similarities, and John said that he was influenced to start work on Double Fantasy by Paul's disco-esque "Coming Up."