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sorry if the question has just been posted, i don’t know but pete doggett wrote that the four never meet again in the same room after the Abbey Road sessions. otherwise in the new book about Ringo, there’s a quote from the tv director Jeff margolis (who directed the 78 special Ognir Rrats) who comin to Ringo’s home found them all in the music room and nearly died for shock. who is right?
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Offline I haven’t read the new book about Ringo … but in Chris O’Dell’s memoirs, (she was an Apple employee living with/working for Pattie and George) she says that all four Beatles were invited to Pattie Harrison’s March 1970 birthday party, which happened to be on St. Patrick’s Day … just a few weeks before the McCartney Press Release. O’Dell says all four Beatles and their wives came, and they explored the caves at Friar Park. So if that’s true … all four met together as late as March 1970.
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Offline I originally posted this in the thread for the Ringo Starr bio by Michael Starr. But then I found this thread. So I’ll x-post it here.
Expert Textpert pointed something out to me today, and we decided we want more information on the matter. I had read this part of the book before, but hadn’t thought to question what I read. It is on page 273 in the section about the television special Ringo being put together. So the time frame is 1978. Jeff Margolis was the show’s director.
Here’s the chapter:
Margolis got the shock of his life when he arrived at Ringo’s house on Woodrow Wilson Drive for a prearranged meeting to talk about the project. “I went to the gate and somebody said, ‘Who is it?’ and they buzzed me in. Ringo was expecting me. And I went up to the front door, and knocked on the door, and his house man answered the door and said, ‘Have a seat, Mr. Margolis. I’ll tell Mr. Starkey you’re here.’ Ringo came out, and I got a big hug and a kiss, and he said, ‘Come on into the music room, I’d like you to meet some friends of mine.’ And I walked in, and there was George, and Paul and John. I almost shit myself. I almost died.”
Is there any reason to doubt this story? Were all four Beatles really together hanging out at Ringo’s place? Do we know of other times were they all together after the breakup?
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I’ll have to cross-check my Doggett for this, he is adamant that there was never more than three Beatles together in the same room after 1970, and I can only think of two times outside of John’s albums at that.
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18 April 2013
Offline I remember Doggett claiming that, but is there a chance he is wrong?
The story seems like a tall tale to me, but still I’m curious.
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18 April 2013
Offline What I found odd about the anecdote is that it provides no other information about why they were all four in LA in 1978 or what they were doing.
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I dont think there was ever a time when all four Beatles were in LA in the beginning of 1978.
Going by Keith Badman’s ‘The Beatles After The Break-Up’:
‘Ognir Rrats’ was filmed between the 11th and 22nd February – so had to before that if since the meeting was to discuss the project.
Paul was in London recording ‘London Town ‘ up until the 23rd January.
George did fly to LA on the 26th January but no idea for how long he was there as he was heading back out to ‘Hawaii’ where he was for much of February. He was involved in the special but I’ve no idea when he filmed his parts.
More importantly however I’ve never read of John leaving the Dakota for a few days to go see Ringo in LA; if John went anywhere it was to Japan, aside from one boat adventure to Bermuda in 1980.
There is also nothing in Robert Rodriquez’ ‘Fab Four FAQ 2.0: The Beatles’ Solo Years: 1970-1980′ of an all four Beatles reunion in 1978.
I’d be surprised therefore if it did happen.
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Offline What a shame they weren’t all at John’s funeral
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Offline John didn’t have a funeral, @Bongo.
One of the things people have always used against Yoko is that she had John cremated without anyone in attendance, followed by his ashes being delivered to her which she supposedly put under the bed.
It’s used to show how disrespectful she was towards him.
Of course, what’s rarely considered is that the lack of funeral might have been John’s wishes. It is easy to imagine a conversation taking place in the aftermath of Elvis’ funeral, and the media coverage of that.
David Bowie has been cremated without a funeral this past week. Nobody is (yet) throwing accusations at Iman that she has treated him with disrespect.
I also highly doubt the supposed meeting of all four, @Ahhh Girl. Not only for all the reasons that mmm gave, but because Paul, George and Ringo have been asked the question many times over the years, and none of them have ever referred to them all meeting up. It would have been a great anecdote, for instance, to have included in Anthology… “Well, the last time we were all together, that was at Ringo’s and…”
The fact that none of them have ever said a thing about this supposed get-together throws a huge shadow of doubt over it for me.
I can’t think of a single reason why they would take a vow of silence over the last meeting of the four of them had it happened. If anything, it would be a great story to tell since one of sadnesses is that these four men who gave so much and changed the world would never again be in the same room after the split.
Why would Paul, George and Ringo want that meeting kept secret, especially if they knew (as they would) that there was someone else there who could blow the myth out of the water?
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18 April 2013
Offline Something else in the Michael Starr Ringo biography, page 333: In 1977, in a lawsuit against the Beatlemania stage show, John alleged that the Beatles were planning a concert as an updated ending to the “Long and Winding Road” documentary (that became “Anthology”).
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18 April 2013
Offline Come on now, we have to discuss this! It’s big if The Beatles were planning a reunion concert in 1977. Let’s have all the reasons why this isn’t true and wasn’t going to happen.
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18 April 2013
Offline Could it be that the “Threetles” reunited for Anthology because a Beatles reunion had been the plan all along when the documentary was completed?
Would we have had a “Long and Winding Road” with a Beatles concert if not for the Beatlemania stage show and John’s death getting in the way of the timing?
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Come on now, we have to discuss this! It’s big if The Beatles were planning a reunion concert in 1977. Let’s have all the reasons why this isn’t true and wasn’t going to happen.
Maybe John was reluctant to come out of retirement.
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Online According to Keith Badman’s ‘Beatles After The Break-Up: 1970 – 2001’, the lawsuit was issued on the 27th September 1979
Thursday September 27
The Beatles get together, not to perform, but to sue the organisers of the Beatlemania stage show. Lawyers representing Apple in New York reveal that The Beatles are seeking, in Los Angeles, $60 million (around £27 million) in actual and punitive damages against the organisers and promoters cashing in on the stage show in London later this year. The Beatles are also seeking to close down the six Beatlemania shows that are at present running in various parts of America and to halt attempts to package a Beatlemania television show. In reply to this action, Steve Leber, of Leber-Krebs Inc., the man responsible for the shows, says: “My company bought the rights to perform all the old Beatle songs for the show.” He adds, “The Beatles are making more money from the show from royalties than I am!”
John’s comments were made on the 28th November 1980
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As part of a legal deposition for Apple Corps against the producers of the Beatlemania stage show, John states today that: “I and the three other former Beatles have plans to stage a reunion concert,” an event to be filmed and included as the finale to The Long And Winding Road , an official Beatles produced documentary to be released in the mid-Eighties. (John’s deposition will not be made public until the case is settled on June 4, 1986 – see entry.)
Presumably its a typo as the relevant entry is on the 7th June
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In California at the Los Angeles Superior Court, the judge Paul Breckenridge orders the producers of the Beatlemania stage show and film to pay Apple Corps Ltd a total of $10.5 million in damages. Breckenridge rules that: “Beatlemania‘s primary purpose was to commercially exploit The Beatles’ popularity.” The suit is settled when John’s original deposition of November 28, 1980 (see entry) is heard.
Makes far more sense for John to make the comments in 1980 when we now know he was planning to go out on the road in 1981 and perform some Beatle numbers.
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18 April 2013
Offline I assumed the comments were made in 1977 because that is the year Beatlemania came out. There was no mention of the date the comments were made in the Starr book. So, that make sense that he would have said that right before he died. I guess if he hadn’t died, we would have gotten that Beatles reunion in the mid-80’s. Interesting that they had planned the reunion around the documentary. Does that add more of an air of legitimacy for those who were critical of Anthology?
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Also this is Apple, you have to take in account that it takes them a good year to 18 months to get their act together.
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18 April 2013
Offline By critical, I mean, for example, the comments on this forum from those who think the new songs shouldn’t count as “canon” because John wasn’t there to give his approval. That John planned to get The Beatles back together around the documentary would seem to give the project more of an air of legitimacy.
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Online Saying the two tracks arent par’t of the canon isn’t being critical of the Anthology project itself, it’s just stating a fact that John wasn’t able to give his own personal critique and/or blessing to the two songs. The project will always be legitimate, as will the two tracks always rightly be credited to the Beatles.
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I can’t think of a single reason why they would take a vow of silence over the last meeting of the four of them had it happened. If anything, it would be a great story to tell since one of sadnesses is that these four men who gave so much and changed the world would never again be in the same room after the split
They might of done something private that they didn’t want the whole world to know about.
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18 April 2013
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Ron Nasty said
I can’t think of a single reason why they would take a vow of silence over the last meeting of the four of them had it happened. If anything, it would be a great story to tell since one of sadnesses is that these four men who gave so much and changed the world would never again be in the same room after the splitThey might of done something private that they didn’t want the whole world to know about.
Maybe they were planning their mid-80’s comeback.
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