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Best solo albums the first ones after Let It Be?
10 January 2014
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Ron Nasty
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meanmistermustard said
The question was "Best solo albums the first ones after Let It Be (8th May 1970)?".

However, trcanberra who asked the question, qualified his framing, "I chose after Let It Be because that was when they all had the weight of doubt and secrecy lifted from them."

Given Paul's press release with McCartney, there can be no doubt he knew The Beatles had split at the time of the album's release, and that saw the secrecy lifted. By the 8 May everyone knew The Beatles were no more, Paul had told the world so.

That would only put Sentimental Journey under question. On that I'd say Ringo knew The Beatles were no more, so there was no "weight of doubt", but agree that it came a few weeks before the secrecy was lifted, which would make it an... ummm... ah.... can be argued both ways.

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10 January 2014
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Thanks for the replies all - I was just doing some thinking out loud about whether the formal public announcement had a liberating effect on everyone, even if they knew that the end had come some time earlier - and whether that led to some of the best music of their solo years.  As it turns out, my question was not too fully thought out - but it has resulted in some interesting discussion on the music around that time.

10 January 2014
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trcanberra said
Thanks for the replies all - I was just doing some thinking out loud about whether the formal public announcement had a liberating effect on everyone, even if they knew that the end had come some time earlier - and whether that led to some of the best music of their solo years.  As it turns out, my question was not too fully thought out - but it has resulted in some interesting discussion on the music around that time.

Yes, it has. I love all the ideas that come from so many walking, breathing, posting Beatles encyclopedias on this forum. I've not ceased to be amazed.

Paul's glad you all are concerned about keeping it real and factual here.

"Hell, yeah, these people care!" he can be heard exclaiming.

 

10 January 2014
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ivaughan said
 
I can certainly understand that opinion and it's a popular one. And certainly Band on the Run is a great album and up there with the best Beatles solo album. For me personally, though, I feel that Paul lost just a little something special when he started to go the stadium-rock route which essentially began with this record. There is a kind of specialness with the first few solo McCartney albums - something about them that seems almost more authentically McCartney than anything else he ever did - that went away when he started making those bigger albums, if you know what I mean. Of course, though, there's so much great stuff on BOTR - the title track, Bluebird, Let Me Roll It, 1985, and, yes, have to say, love Jet as well.

Well said, I completely agree. There's an honest exuberance in McCartney I and Ram, which I think got kicked out of him a little bit when they were panned. :( He was very much doing his own thing, in his own weird Paul way, which actually meant that his darker feelings and pains and insecurities peeked out more -- albeit also in his weird Paul way. I find those elements lacking on BOTR, excellent though it is. He sounds a little rigid with determination, a little "gird up thy loins" -- and it also feels less like a cohesive album to me. That's why I like McCartney II and Electric Arguments so much; he's just doin' his weird Paul thing again. His anxieties and desire-to-please get in his way as an artist sometimes, I think. He was insulated from it with the Beatles, because he had the other lads around him and they were, you know, wildly successful.

10 January 2014
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Yeah, I don't even understand how there could be any confusion about that. AFTER Let it be. If you people just would've read the title of the thread, there wouldn't have been any confusion.

10 January 2014
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Linde said
Yeah, I don't even understand how there could be any confusion about that. AFTER Let it be. If you people just would've read the title of the thread, there wouldn't have been any confusion.

Ha ha - thanks for the support Linde.  As mja noted my hero Ringo threw a spanner in the works by having his Blues album come out so close to that event that it clouded the issue :)

 

10 January 2014
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Hello all. So far as each of the 4 beatles first solo albums being their best. I would say not. Arguably, I would say the first masterpiece from each solo Beatle would be as follows

 

1-Ringo        1973

2 ATMP  1970

 

3 Band On The Run late 73

 

4 Plastic Ono/Imagine a tie, bookend albums

 

Yes Ram is great, and many fans love that album. ATMP is great, but sounds like it was recorded in a cave. All the echo and massive overdubbing sound warm and big, but lacks any transparency or clarity. Maybe the best clutch of post Beatles songs, but recorded badly too much echo. I can't seperate Plastic Ono from Imagine, bookend albums. One produced, one just raw, but both full of personal, political, and social statements. Another factor, can we rewrite history, and add the non album singles and B sides to the proper album to strengthen them. If you add Another Day and Oh Woman Oh Why to Ram, and perhaps delete two weak songs like 3 Legs or the long one thats out of tune, you definitely make Ram a stronger LP. Ringo had no non album singles, but Back Off Boogaloo came out the year before, that would def strengthen Ringo. I don't think Ringo has a bum track on it. Def his best album, although Ringorama and Goodnight Vienna are both good. I think Brainwashed and Cloud Nine might be just as good as ATMP. I think Walls and Bridges might be as good as Imagine or Plastic Ono. McCartney has a number of albums that arguably compete with Band On The Run or Ram

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