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19 May 2010
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Have you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T…..tail_Party) it looks like Liam's trying to steer it away from just being another Beatles biopic.

Of course, JPG+R do feature in the book, and it'll be interesting to see if it works without them. a-hard-days-night-john-7

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19 May 2010
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Well if your going to spoil it with facts… a-hard-days-night-paul-1

I've heard about it, but haven't hit add to cart. But I have been curious if their business model would have worked in a modern setting. Is the book on just the crazy people who showed up on the daily basis?

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19 May 2010
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No, the Beatles are in there, and Klein, the Christmas party with the Hell's Angels etc. The Wikipedia article gives a good overview, as I'm sure Amazon does (I haven't looked). It starts with DeLillo's arrival at Apple from America, and ends with Allen Klein's mass firings. I think RD survived the cull for a while but left shortly afterwards.

I picked up a cheap copy for about £3 (about $4) in HMV a while ago. It's a good read – written nearer the time, so some interesting recollections tainted by the inevitable drink and drug consumption of the time.

I'm pretty sure the business model wouldn't have worked at any time. They seemed to be hopelessly disorganised. The one saving grace of Apple was that it was essentially a tax write-off, so it didn't matter that they lost loads of cash.

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19 May 2010
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So as long as the government didn't get it, it didn't matter that it was wasted?  That doesn't make any sense. Anyway, I was thinking if they had the technology we have now, that it could have been one kick-ass web site – kind of a psychedelic Amazon/ iTunes. But tech can't fix bad hiring policies.

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19 May 2010
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This has all the makings of yet another movie that is nowhere near as good as the book.

Joe's post at the top of this page is encouraging me to read the book. As for what I am hearing about the movie, I'll wait until I can rent it cheaply before I pass judgement – or did I just pass judgement with that thought? HMMMMMMMMMM…

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19 May 2010
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skye said:

So as long as the government didn't get it, it didn't matter that it was wasted?  That doesn't make any sense.


Well, kind of. Basically, in 1967 The Beatles would have had massive tax bills that they'd have had to pay personally. By setting up a company – ie Apple – they could avoid paying the bill by spending it on business-related costs*, and they got to release their own records, sign other artists, play at being businessmen and have a lot of fun (for a while) at the same time. But yes, I think George, at least, made his views on paying UK supertax in the 1960s fairly clear.

* I'm not an accountant. I presume that's how it works.

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19 May 2010
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Joe said:

But yes, I think George, at least, made his views on paying UK supertax in the 1960s fairly clear.
 


Should 5 percent appear too small…a-hard-days-night-george-1 

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19 May 2010
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Zig said:

Joe said:

But yes, I think George, at least, made his views on paying UK supertax in the 1960s fairly clear.


Should 5 percent appear too small…a-hard-days-night-george-1

 

 


 

be thankful I don't take it all… a-hard-days-night-george-6

 

Thanks for the link to the book.. I think I should learn NOT to react so viscerally before watching something finished, but I think Liam Gallagher seems to be a very pretentious person.. based on some interviews I've read….

 

 Zig said:

Joe's post at the top of this page is encouraging me to read the book. As for what I am hearing about the movie, I'll wait until I can rent it cheaply before I pass judgement – or did I just pass judgement with that thought? HMMMMMMMMMM…


 

Me too. Actually I'm interested in that period because I imagine it like a reality check.It must have been very frustrating for them.

 

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19 May 2010
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Joe said:

Well, kind of. Basically, in 1967 The Beatles would have had massive tax bills that they'd have had to pay personally. By setting up a company – ie Apple – they could avoid paying the bill by spending it on business-related costs*, and they got to release their own records, sign other artists, play at being businessmen and have a lot of fun (for a while) at the same time. But yes, I think George, at least, made his views on paying UK supertax in the 1960s fairly clear.
 

* I'm not an accountant. I presume that's how it works.


 

As it is, I am an accountant (or at least trying to be), but I don't really know much about how the UK tax code was set up in the 1960s. If it's like the US tax code, they would have deducted their business expenses (three-martini lunches), which would lower their taxable income and hopefully get them out of the 95% bracket. So I guess they wasted less than £3 million* to save £3 million? There had to be a cheaper way to avoid taxes. But I don't think their lawyers and accountants really cared so long as they got their fee.

* I hope it was less than 3?

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20 May 2010
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This might help you: http://www.beatlemoney.com/app…..efacts.htm

It's an excellent site, so more info about Apple might be found elsewhere there. There's also a book I have called Beatles for Sale: How Everything They Touched Turned to Gold by John Blaney which is good on money facts throughout their career, but I've only dipped in and out of it so far.

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20 May 2010
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Ooo, very nice. Thank you Joe.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

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20 May 2010
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For anyone near a computer RIGHT NOW, go here: http://www.ustream.tv/paulmccartney

Live webchat with Paul. Good luck getting a message read out and answered – it's busy in there.


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20 May 2010
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He didn't answer many questions did he?

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20 May 2010
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Not really, no. He did say his favourite book was Nicholas Nickleby though. Most of it seemed to be taken up by people from South American countries asking him when he was coming to their country – pretty boring.

It's archived here (though it seems to stall or crash my browser each time I try it): http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7068085

Glad he's looking forward to coming to Cardiff though!

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20 May 2010
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It was boring, but still kinda cool seeing him and the band chatting to us. I'm jealous of all who are going to see him in concert soon! 

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24 May 2010
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Gustavo Cerati is one of the most influential rock artists in Latinamerica, and his band Soda Stereo is considered as the best rock-pop band in Spanish ever. I'm not that familiar with their story to say if The Beatles were an influence on him or not, but he has a song named "I have seen Lucy" and a friend of mine who's a huge fan says "maybe it's because of Lucy in The Sky"..

Anyway. The thing is that a few days ago, rock people and fans were shocked when they learned Cerati had a serious stroke. And some artists published this comic about Cerati. I'm not sure if this is good or bad taste, but I'm posting this because you can see John there.

The one in bed is supposed to be Cerati, and the lady, the great Mercedes Sosa, is saying "Not yet my dear, not yet". The rest in the pic are Celia Cruz, Bob Marley, Jimmi Hendrix, Pavarotti, Elvis, Michael Jackson, I think Jim Morrison and Carlos Gardel.

 

Edit : You can see the pic here http://twitpic.com/1pj10d

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24 May 2010
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Now I think about it.. that pic is .. I dunno… morbid…

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31 May 2010
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The writer of this blog posted some scans he did from pages with Beatles lyrics from a very old Mexican magazine. The interesting of this is how this guy got the magazine. An old man was reading it in the subway and since he saw the blog's author peeking at it, he gave it to him. Just like that.
 

http://www.heroeslocales.com/b…..-el-metro/

 

 

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4 June 2010
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You can get Beatles Rock Band for the Xbox 360 for $64.99 at newegg.com! Free shipping!

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Childish and not really safe for work, but I did like the Abbey Road/Get Back one. http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/…..tedalbums/

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