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Beatles kick out Pete - cold and heartless?
20 August 2013
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Yeah, Mona was almost 20 years older…he was into MILFs even before the term was invented :lol: A bit weird that he fathered a brother of Pete’s that Pete is old enough to be the father of. Equally as odd that Pete was cool with it…hell, the brother (Roag Best) plays drums with Pete in his band! But I guess if Ringo and George remained friends after George shagged Maureen, and George and EC remained friends after EC stole Pattie away, anything is possible. Those Liverpudlians are a strange sort! (and yes, I know EC hails from Surrey, not Liverpool!)

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20 August 2013
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Yeah it IS kind of creepy to date a guy who is the same age as your son (in fact, Pete and Neill were only 1 month apart). It also must be weird to have a sort of stepfather (I know they weren’t married but still) who is your age. That whole thing is a bit disturbing.

 

20 August 2013
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Well, Mona was a cougar before that term was around…she was a pioneer! :P

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20 August 2013
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I’m going to be completely different to everyone else here and admit that I don’t really see the big problem with being in a relationship where there’s a bit of an age gap. Obviously, it’s not the way it usually works, but if you love them then, at least to a certain extent, does it matter? Maybe it’s because of the way I was brought up. A great-uncle of mine dated his son’s ex-wife, though even I think that’s a bit too weird and, well, just wrong.

 

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20 August 2013
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20 August 2013
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I don’t have an issue with the age difference, more with how uncomfortable the situation must’ve been when Pete finally found out his best mate was getting it on with his mum!

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20 August 2013
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Yeah that’s what I meant too. I couldn’t care less about age difference. Isn’t Paul’s wife like 20 years younger either? That’s not the thing I find disturbing. That’s not the point at all.

21 August 2013
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Don’t see what age has to do with a relationship – as long as its legal of course. If others have a problem then let them be hung up by it.

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21 August 2013
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Linde said
Yeah it IS kind of creepy to date a guy who is the same age as your son (in fact, Pete and Neill were only 1 month apart). It also must be weird to have a sort of stepfather (I know they weren’t married but still) who is your age. That whole thing is a bit disturbing.

 

Or a stepfather who used to be your best friend!!!!

How long did Neil and Mona’s relationship last?

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21 August 2013
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^ Romantically involved throughout 1961/’62. I don’t think they saw eachother at all after Roag was born.

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21 August 2013
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Whatever the official status of their relationship after Neil’s move to London, Mona came down and stayed with him on a regular basis, and had good relationships with Brian and The Beatles. It was Mona who provided the medals that are worn by John on the cover of Sgt. Pepper from what I have read, along with the trophy that sits of the L of the group’s name in flowers.

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21 August 2013
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Sorry, by ”never saw eachother at all”, I meant in a romantic sense. I think it was really nice of her to lend John her father’s medals for the cover of Sgt. Pep.

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21 August 2013
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I thought I’d read that John went to Liverpool to fetch the medals, and actually ran into Pete there for the first time since ’62/’63 (when Pete’s band supported the Beatles on a bill somewhere)?

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21 August 2013
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My suggestion was that, though they were no longer romantically involved publicly, there is no knowing what occurred on those occasions she came down to London to stay with Neil. I talk here from personal experience. My parents split when I was nine when my father became involved with another woman, who he ended up moving in with. My mother did not find a new relationship for about five years. Up until the time that she did, my father would visit his kids every Saturday, say hello to us as he passed us on the way upstairs with my mother, before saying goodbye when he left two or three hours later. Now, I obviously have no idea what they were doing upstairs, but his Saturday visits to “his kids” never involved much of seeing them. There is no way to know what the relationship between Neil and Mona was during the ’60s, whatever public statements have been made. I would not be surprised if they remained “intimate” for far longer than they acknowledged.

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21 August 2013
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Ah, I see what you mean. I suppose they would’ve wanted to keep it quiet if they were still seeing eachother when he went down, which I think could be quite likely.

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21 August 2013
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I’ve always wondered about the name “Roag.” And, I’m not being critical here….but isn’t it pronounced the same as the word “rogue” as in “rogue shark” or “rogue whale?” That word implies the shark or whatever has drifted away from the pack and was somewhere it is not supposed to be…sort of like an illigitimate child. Just seems odd, or maybe I’m not pronouncing it correctly.

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22 August 2013
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I think Roag is Scottish – there’s a place called that on the map.

As for how it is pronounced, god only knows – over to you MMM.

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22 August 2013
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I heard an interview with Pete recently where he pronounced it as in “rogue.”

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22 August 2013
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that it appears as “Rogue” on his birth certificate.

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22 August 2013
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Okay, so his name is Rogue (which could carry some negative implications). His mom is the mother of the drummer that the Beatles dumped. His dad is the business manager (for lack of better term) of the Beatles, and his dad’s best friend is the drummer the Beatles dumped. I almost feel sorry for him except I have been told he is a wonderful guy who has been pretty successful (but that info is based on friends’ Beatles gossip, not actual research). Whew! You couldn’t make this stuff up! What is happening with Rogue nowadays?

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