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A couple of "People" important to the Beatles
20 August 2013
Funny Paper
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A while back, I lobbied through an email to Joe to consider including James Taylor in his list of "People" who are important in Beatles history (JT was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame by Paul a couple of years ago; JT used the same record studio the Beatles did during the White Album sessions and often would sit and watch them; JT used Paul and Linda for backup vocals on one of his first albums; and JT was a close friend of John's in the 70s). 

At the time, Joe presented a pretty good counter-argument to me, but still, it seems to me that even if some people weren't absolutely central, if they had any role at all, they should be part of a list -- if not the main list, then a "side list".

Another person is Donovan.  I keep seeing mentions of Paul mentioning Donovan as a friend who helped him write one song or another.  It seems Donovan played an important role in Paul's songwriting during a certain period of the Beatles.  Surely this should count for inclusion?

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20 August 2013
Von Bontee
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Not a bad idea, but I don't know if Joe's up to the task, with Baby #2 and book #1 on the way!

I guess obviously it's up to Joe. But if not, why not create a thread for peripheral Beatle people? Anyone can contribute whoever they want!

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20 August 2013
The Village
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You could easily say the same about Eric Clapton for George etc. Hell he even played on a Beatles track! But Joe's said before he's too busy and if he starts adding people like Eric you're going to get every Tom, Dick and Harry on the list a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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20 August 2013
The Netherlands
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That's the danger in that. There were a lot of people in their lives, but how do you decide who's important and who's not important enough? 

20 August 2013
Funny Paper
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Linde said
That's the danger in that. There were a lot of people in their lives, but how do you decide who's important and who's not important enough? 

On one level it is a subjective judgement call.  However, in the spirit of a thoroughly scholarly approach to history, all the relevant people would be included, and the facts of their involvement would determine the degrees of importance they have.

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20 August 2013
Ron Nasty
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But it is also the scale of the project. All of the main site entries are done by Joe, and he only has one pair of hands, a job, and a life to live, and a child on the way.

He keeps a check on the forum. Deals with the tech side of keeping things running which can be time consuming when there are problems with that side as now. He does well in keeping the History up to date. And, if I remember correctly, he said the other day that his article focus – when he has the time – was on the Ringo discography.

I'm amazed and thankful that Joe has been able to write so many articles for the main site.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
20 August 2013
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It's a good idea, but unfortunately yet more time-consuming work. It'd be lovely to have all these articles and different sections but we have to be realistic, and fair, to Joe.

I don't really mind that much, anyway, the site is pretty amazing as it is.

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21 August 2013
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If memory serves, I recall a similar request popped up a couple of years back. At that time, it was decided that only those in the Beatles camp/inner circle/whatever you want to call it, would be included.

It makes sense to me, because where will it end? It's nice that Taylor/Donovan/"insert Beatle friend name here" were chummy to a point, but so were a lot of other people. Paul played drums on a Steve Miller song after a heated argument with J, G & R. He also appeared on Paul's album Flaming Pie. Do we include him as well? Were any of these people as important to The Beatles as those who are already listed? I'm thinking no.

Von's idea of a thread for the fringe folks is a good idea. That should be good enough.

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