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2.52pm
1 May 2011
OfflineThe ramblings of a being in thought. This has probably written here, there and everywhere before what the hey.
Following on from the 1974 John/Paul get together thread it got me thinking.
We know (or are led to believe) that John was looking to return to the UK, tour and revisit some old beatles tunes (she loves you, i want to hold your hand).
We know that Paul phoned John during the Double Fantasy sessions to see if John would be interested in doing some music together since he was back in the studios but Yoko blocked the call getting thru. Plus in interviews a few years later Paul seemed to indicate his enthusiasm for Wings had pretty much died by 1980 and Japan was more out of committment than desire.
We know that Ringo had asked John, Paul and George for material for his next album (George had given him a couple of songs including a very early version of All Those Years Ago (George rewrote the words after the events of Dec 1980) and they had recorded together in the studion).
We know that George was becoming disillusioned with the music industry, and his record label, Warner Brothers, had vetoed some of the songs he gave them believing them to be too downbeat.
So would The Beatles have reformed in 1981? Would there still have been a hinderance(s); George, John being hurt about being hardly mentioned in I Me Mine, Yoko, ego's, business dealings?
The start off point would be to record a track or two together for Ringo's album as that was always some kind of common ground, even in the later days of The Beatles they managed to reduce their egos for Octopus's Garden. And then take it from there.
3.11pm
14 April 2010
OfflineIt's interesting to think about. I was one of those hopefuls (delusionals?) who swore up to the day that John died that they were going to get back together.
Knowing/reading what I know now, I just don't think the Beatles would have got together again as the Beatles. I shudder to think that Yoko could have or would have run so much interference. If she had not, I have no reason to doubt that all four could have worked together on someone's solo album, or perhaps under a one-off pseudonym, but I don't think they would have reformed fully as the Beatles.
Oh, if only…
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5.46pm
1 May 2010
Offline12.29am
4 December 2010
OfflineI do believe they would have gotten back together, probably not as early as 1981 though. Maybe Live Aid. I feel like they would have reunited for their Induction to the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. I feel like the circumstances would have been different by the time and they all would have worked everything out. The more I think about it, however, the more I believe they would not have recorded another album together. Maybe a song or two like what they did for Anthology, but not a whole album.
This is me being hopeful and realistic at the same time.
12.45am
16 February 2011
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I don't think they would have reunited for a longer period of time than an odd charity concert or something. Because frankly, their music was just too different, it would have been like the white album-individuals making songs as individuals on a group album. But I agree with mith that they could have helped Ringo to make some songs. I do, however, think it would have had been possible (
) for them to form smaller groups, like Paul and John or John and George, for example. For some period of time. Let's not make Yoko the demon here
I don't know her reasons for blocking Paul's calls; maybe she was angry with him (very understandable given the treatment she sometimes got), or jealous. But if John iniated something with Paul, I find it very hard to belive that Yoko would try to stop that. Not that I know her that well, though..
And I'm really not even sure if I would have liked the Beatles to have reunited (these tenses are killing me! can I use something like that if I haven't actually lived at the time?), John seemed better off without it.
1.18am
10 August 2011
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19 September 2010
OfflineClassic rocks reunions are like when you photocopy the Mona Lisa. It's still the Mona Lisa, but a pale copy of masterpiece. Just as a 1982 Beatles album would have been. Too much change had happened musically to create anything resembling their peaks of the 60's. It had changed – the music world wasn't in a mode for them. I'm glad it didn't happen, but I wish it hadn't of happened because it shouldn't have happened, not because of MDC.
5.43pm
14 December 2009
OfflineMr. sun king OTM. And even if John wished to work with Paul again, I suspect that a full-scale reunion would be unlikely (except for the occasional charity gig, maybe) because I think George would be reluctant to participate. His aversion to working with Paul would seem to be the most durable of any of the various 1-on-1 mini-feuds – he didn't record or perform or even jam with Paul in any way between 1970 and "Free As A Bird", did he? – so I think that he would be a bigger impediment towards reunion than even Yoko. (Whose interference I admit to finding somewhat upsetting, and I'm usually Cap'n-save-a-Yoko around this website!)
7.13pm
1 May 2011
OfflineGeorge played with Paul at Claptons wedding and at Ringo's. Both were probably drunk at the time which may have helped, along with all the other musicians involved and that it was more a fun thing than 'lets make a record'.
I would imagine John didnt get the invite as he was always saying he was invisible. And had John and Eric been in contact in recent times, John seems to have had a close group of folk he would hang out with.
10.34pm
14 December 2009
Offline11.37pm
1 May 2011
OfflineOn the Paul and George playing theme, Paul contributed i think bass and vocals for All Those Years Ago albeit in a different studio. No doubt everything between them was laid aside as it was for John but did Paul play what George wanted or was he free to play what he felt was right and fitting.
(Apologies if you feel that that is inappropriate considering the theme but it got me a-wondering.)
11.51pm

19 September 2010
Offlinemeanmistermustard said:
On the Paul and George playing theme, Paul contributed i think bass and vocals for All Those Years Ago albeit in a different studio. No doubt everything between them was laid aside as it was for John but did Paul play what George wanted or was he free to play what he felt was right and fitting.
(Apologies if you feel that that is inappropriate considering the theme but it got me a-wondering.)
No bass. He simply sings backup.
1.46am
1 May 2011
OfflineI read the wiki entry for All Those Years Ago and is says that not only did Paul play bass but that Paul, Linda and Denny Laine all went to Friar Park, George's Studios, which is news to me.
I remember reading elsewhere ages ago that Paul overdubbed his contribution to the track in another studio. Plus Paul was annoyed that whilst he was in the Japanese prison in January 1980 Denny was away signing deals for his solo album and enjoying film festivals and there was ill feeling between them in how Wings ended, if later interviews with both of them are right.
Anyone know if Wiki is accurate on this or not, I'll have a look in some beatles books.
3.35am
10 August 2011
Offline11.01am
1 May 2011
OfflineKeith Badman in his book 'The Beatles After the Breakup 1970 – 2000' says it was Friar Park (so whatever the book i read looks to been wrong) but no Denny Laine or bass – not that thats the definitive source.
12.36pm

19 September 2010
OfflineIt says (on the sleeve) thanks to Paul and Linda McCartney, Denny Laine, George Martin and Geoff Emerick for 'All Those Years Ago'" And it says "Denny Laine appears courtesy of Warner Bros [I forget]."
Look, the bass would have been recorded when the song was recorded with Ringo. And Denny still thought, until mid 1981, that Tug of War would be a Wings album. He appears on that album alot. The acrimony starts in 1981, when Paul announced (in returning to the Tug of War project) that it would be a solo album, Denny said (essentially) fuck, and it ended. They would have been on speaking terms in December 1980/January 1981. Paul, after John's death, put it aside. Then he took it up again as a solo album, probably for the better.
Why is George Martin thanked for ATYA, when he has no noted contribution (that I know of)?
3.52pm
14 April 2010
Offlinemr. Sun king coming together said:
Why is George Martin thanked for ATYA, when he has no noted contribution (that I know of)?
The wiki entry mentioned by mmrm above first says…
The album's liner notes also thank the Beatles' producer George Martin and the Beatles' engineer Geoff Emerick, although what contribution (if any) they made to the track is unclear.
That same entry goes on to list Sir George as one of the song's producers. A Google search produced a list of websites that also say he was a co-producer of the song. I wasn't there, so I can't confirm or deny.
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6.41pm

19 September 2010
OfflineBut again, the sleeve makes no mention of anything but what I quoted above. It doesn't credit him with anything, even though if someone helped produce even one song, they'd still be credited. This is strange.
6.56pm
14 April 2010
Offlinemr. Sun king coming together said:
This is strange.
No – THIS is strange.
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