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3.26pm
24 August 2012
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Interesting that I stumbled upon this thread as I have just been listening to the Esher acoustic demos, some of which are not incredibly far from their electric ‘babies’ (Back in the USSR, I’m So Tired, Cry Baby Cry) while others obviously evolved from acoustic scribblings into the masterpieces on the finished album (‘Helter Skelter’, ‘While My Guitar Gently Weeps’, ‘Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except me and my monkey’). Other songs that most certainly belonged on the White album are ‘Sour Milk Sea’ and ‘Not Guilty’ , the latter being recorded for the album (appearing on Anthology 3 ultimately after a huge ride on bootlegs).
The other amazing oddity is that ‘Jealous Guy’ (as it’s Summer-of-Love stalled demo version ‘Child of Nature’ features prominently amongst the major acoustic demos here. Surprisingly, for an album that many (George Martin for example) think had too much on it, there was obviously a great deal of quality control, and the material could well have stumbled on to produce a triple album with some of the aforementioned classic tunes making it no less enthralling (had their interest kept up, which by that point may have been impossible).
Anyroad, I agree with John Lennon himself who compares the White album with epper and favours the former as he believes his songs are better quality (for Christ sake: Dear Prudence, I’m So Tired, Julia, Monkey, Happiness, Sexy Sadie etc et-bloody-cetera) and sung better in his (and my) view.
The album is their most eclectic, reaches the highest peaks for all four, with McCartney not being as clichéd as he tends to be in the latter singles and in some of the album space in which he has free run of it (I’m thinking Abbey Road and Let it Be).
Anyway, along with Revolver, Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour, I think the White album is the beatles at their peak, and I personally don’t care who plays or sings on what, I just love the music on it and always will.![]()
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23 July 2012
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3 May 2012
OnlineI love it but I agree with George Martin and a few others who said it – they could of condensed it down and the tracks that aren't the best on the album they could of used elsewhere. Having said that, it's cool that it takes so long to listen to the full album because it's so long.
Also, considering the tensions that were present, they didn't mess the album up. They could of thought, well, as I don't really want to do this anymore and everybody is arguing with everybody and their uncle, I'll sort of give up and not really bother much but they didn't, they still made a damn good album.
4.36pm
9 May 2012
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1 May 2011
OfflineChild of Nature has a similar theme to Mother Natures Son and whilst it was in Johns head in May for the forementioned demo, he might not have been that inawed with it due to the whole Mararishi thing come the time to record for the White Album. Thats not to say John or the others completely forgot about it until the Imagine sessions as there are run throughs of it during the Get Back sessions of January 1969.
There were even more demos from that time about, Polythene Pam and Mean Mister Mustard being on Antholgy 3, and who knows what remains in the vaults of each Beatle (well maybe not Ringo).
I personally love the album because of its incredible diversity, i dont buy into the idea it was too much or things should have been cut. If they had omitted stuff, released a single lp, and tracks remained in the vaults, everyone would be saying why wasnt that included, it would have made a great double album.
6.08pm
3 May 2012
Onlinemeanmistermustard said
i dont buy into the idea it was too much or things should have been cut. If they had omitted stuff, released a single lp, and tracks remained in the vaults, everyone would be saying why wasnt that included, it would have made a great double album.
Are you saying this because of what I said about it should´ve been made shorter? Beacuse I did say that the tracks could´ve been used elswhere, on another album, for example. If it meant making the album shorter but not using the tracks taken off then, without a doubt, it´s better how it is.
EDIT: I don´t know why it won´t let me quote and reply properly. Sorry about that.
7.00pm
26 July 2011
OfflineI've always thought "The White Album" was among the best things The Beatles ever released. I think I would have had a tough time whittling it down to just one disc, as George Martin recommended -- but maybe Ringo's suggestion was good -- to have a "White Album" and a "Whiter Album". There are a few songs -- most of them Paul's -- that I wouldn't have minded being chopped. I could have done without "Wild Honey Pie", "Martha My Dear", "Rocky Raccoon", "Don't Pass Me By" and yes "Revolution 9". I also wish "Long Long Long" had been placed somewhere other than right after "Helter Skelter" -- I always end up missing most of the first verse of it because I don't have the speakers up loud enough after all the fabulous noise of the preceeding track.
Then again -- maybe Paul put it best: "It's great, it sold, it's the bloody Beatles White Album! Shut Up!"
7.03pm
26 March 2012
Offlinefabfouremily said
meanmistermustard said
i dont buy into the idea it was too much or things should have been cut. If they had omitted stuff, released a single lp, and tracks remained in the vaults, everyone would be saying why wasnt that included, it would have made a great double album.
Are you saying this because of what I said about it should´ve been made shorter? Beacuse I did say that the tracks could´ve been used elswhere, on another album, for example. If it meant making the album shorter but not using the tracks taken off then, without a doubt, it´s better how it is.
EDIT: I don´t know why it won´t let me quote and reply properly. Sorry about that.
You need to press the button with the little quotation marks on, to set what you are writing apart from the quote. If the button is yellow, then wherever you are writing is going to end up in a quote box.
10.17pm
1 May 2011
OfflineEmily, my comment was more towards the arguement of a single disc, your post just brought it to mind.
Personally i believe that even if it was a single disc John would have fought to the bitter end to have Revolution 9 instead of most of his tracks. For a 14 track album it would be 2 or 3 George, 1 Ringo and 10/11 between John and Paul say 10 so five each ala Revolver but then Revolution 9 is 8 mins long which is two tracks. It would get complicated and there would have been a massive debate between the 4 (John, Paul and the two Georges) over what to ditch and what to save (cant see Ringo getting too bothered to get involved).
11.48pm
16 February 2011
OfflineI'm so glad they didn't omit anything… There isn't a single song on White Album that I don't like, though WDWDIontR gets really annoying if you listen to it too often
Rubber Soul used to be my favorite album, but when I took the time to really listen to the White Album, I was just speechless. Especially the first disc; While my guitar gently weeps, happiness is a warm gun ( really, those songs right after each other… incredible…), Martha my dear, I'm so tired, Blackbird, Piggies, Rocky Raccoon, Julia, pretty much every song on it is, I think, better than any of the songs the Beatles made before Help! ( not that there aren't great songs on the second disc; Helter Skelter and Cry baby cry for example)
I like the concept as well, pure white album with the text slightly askew, an apple, the poster, big face pictures, is just beautiful, and very Yokoish, may I add. ( even if she didn't play a huge role in the designing)
I don't really mind Revolution 9, either, I rather like it, actually- it reminds me of Kafka. The ominous, absurd atmosphere. It's not something you can just pull off, to imagine that kind of world, the chaos, requires a very vivid imagination from the person(s).
Probably a lot of people consider Abbey Road to be George's best album, but I definitely prefer White Album for his work. His work is so versatile, although in every song there is this tingling feeling of sadness, perhaps because of the disintegration of the Beatles. Piggies seem to be disliked by many, but I like the irony of the lyrics, pigs "clutching knives and forks to eat their bacon". The pigs can be understood as animals, politicians or another John Doe who keeps up the appearances but not much else. Interlude is cool, too. It's not something you often hear on George's songs, I wonder who originally suggested it
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24 August 2012
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25 August 2012
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6 December 2012
OfflineI think the White Album is one of the Beatles' best albums. It shows everything they can do, from complete randomness like Revolution 9 to beautiful ballads like Julia and I Will to roudy rockers like Helter Skelter, plus so much more. If someone who knew nothing about the Beatles listened to the White Album, they'd probably think it was a compilation of songs (and not-quite-songs *coughcoughRevolution9coughcough*) by 20 different artists. The White Album is amazing, and I know that there will never be anything like it ever again. It's definitely in my Top 5 favorite Beatles albums, maybe even 3, but I'm not sure exactly where. And some days I hate it (temporarily, of course), so it never rests peacefully in one place on my favorites list. But it's up there. Way, way up there.
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7.14am
1 November 2012
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1 May 2011
OfflineI'd loved to have seen some of the more instituational city mens reactions to listening to this for the first time in '68. Their faces would be a treat as they go thru all the genres, at times about to pick up the needle but the next track lulls them back in, until they get to Revolution 9 call it unlistenable garbage and the record is taken off.
2.10pm

29 November 2012
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20 January 2012
OfflineI have a four-album rotation for "favorite Beatles album" -- Revolver, Abbey Road, Rubber Soul, White Album. Before I got the UK versions of Revolver and Rubber Soul, it was more of a two-album rotation, so R and RS are the relative johnny-come-latelys and consequently tend to bubble up to the top more often nowadays.
That said, TWA has definitely spent more years at #1 on my personal list than any of the other three. And more time as my favorite album period, than any other. I do love this record!
3.58pm

29 November 2012
Online3.46am
10 August 2011
OfflineEgroeg (clever name) said, "It shows everything they can do, from complete randomness like Revolution 9 to beautiful ballads like Julia and I Will to roudy rockers like Helter Skelter, plus so much more. If someone who knew nothing about the Beatles listened to the White Album, they'd probably think it was a compilation of songs (and not-quite-songs *coughcoughRevolution9coughcough*) by 20 different artists."
I agree except for one thing: this album does not to feature any of their great harmonies.
Not that they don't harmonize perfectly well ("While My Guitar…"), but it's subtle.
The great harmonies disappeared after Rubber Soul.
They came back in full force for one last hurrah on Abbey Road with "Because," but if I could only take a few Beatle albums with me on a desert island, at least one would have to have those harmonies.
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