The Beatles Bible - Topic: You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/ Simple:Press Version 5.2.6 Linde on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64071 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64071 Wow, didn't know Billy Preston was gay. Not that it really matters, of course. Byt wow, you learn a lot from this forum.

I've never really thought YGTHYLA was about Brian though.

Oh and I don't like that cover at all. The high voice is giving me migraine.

]]> Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:26:26 +0000 Funny Paper on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64038 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64038

Ben Ramon said

Funny Paper said

Joe said
I saw Dylan in London in 1990 - it was possibly the first concert I went to. In the concert programme there was a lengthy interview in which he repeatedly denied that any of his songs was political, though he eventually conceded that Masters Of War was. Obviously that's not entirely the case, but it's true that the majority of his career hasn't been even slightly political.

Dylan was always cagey about his "art".  I think he has been disingenuous, stemming from his phobia about "labels" and being "put into a ...]]> Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:44:32 +0000 meanmistermustard on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64035 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64035

RunForYourLife said
I recently discovered that Billy Preston was also a homosexual, and he was one of the only outside musicians who got to play on their records.

Yes, John sang "Baby you're a rich fag Jew" but I think that he was only doing so to rib Epstein, I don't think any of them had actual problems with gay folks.

Well they were very close to Brian so i doubt it. Pauls said it was more intrigue than anything else and John said more or less the same thing - non-sexual intrigue before the rumours begin that all 5 ...]]> Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:19:36 +0000 Ben Ramon on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64030 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64030

Funny Paper said

Joe said
I saw Dylan in London in 1990 - it was possibly the first concert I went to. In the concert programme there was a lengthy interview in which he repeatedly denied that any of his songs was political, though he eventually conceded that Masters Of War was. Obviously that's not entirely the case, but it's true that the majority of his career hasn't been even slightly political.

Dylan was always cagey about his "art".  I think he has been disingenuous, stemming from his phobia about "labels" and being "put into a box".  In my ...]]> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:25:55 +0000 Funny Paper on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64028 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64028

Joe said
I saw Dylan in London in 1990 - it was possibly the first concert I went to. In the concert programme there was a lengthy interview in which he repeatedly denied that any of his songs was political, though he eventually conceded that Masters Of War was. Obviously that's not entirely the case, but it's true that the majority of his career hasn't been even slightly political.

Dylan was always cagey about his "art".  I think he has been disingenuous, stemming from his phobia about "labels" and being "put into a box".  In my experience, it's the individuals ...]]> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:23:05 +0000 RunForYourLife on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64022 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p64022 I recently discovered that Billy Preston was also a homosexual, and he was one of the only outside musicians who got to play on their records.

Yes, John sang "Baby you're a rich fag Jew" but I think that he was only doing so to rib Epstein, I don't think any of them had actual problems with gay folks.

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BeatleMark said
Hmm, that's a good one!  Almost thought you were sarcastic for a moment.  :-P   I don't know if John had Brian somewhat in mind while writing this song.  Back then, homosexual attractions were not considered the same sensation as "love" and therefore did not have the widespread (mostly liberal atheistic american influence) appeal as the sickness does today. 

Wait wait wait.. hold the phone...  are you actually calling homosexuality a sickness??!  It makes me sick that we still have to read that kind of dribble in 2013!  So sad, the way some people's minds still work. ...]]> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:31:13 +0000 mja6758 on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p63997 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p63997 The Silkie version is an interesting version.

Did chart in Canada vonbontee. Debuted on the CHUM chart in Nov 1965, peaked at #12 & charted for 9 weeks

]]> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:58:18 +0000 vonbontee on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p63993 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p63993 How did I not know about the cover version of this song by The Silkie until just now?? I mean, I knew that a band called The Silkie recorded their own version, but practically everything else in this paragraph I've only learned in the last half-hour:

The group were helped by John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison to record their cover version of "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" on 9 August 1965 at the IBC Studios at around the same time as The Beatles' own version was released on their album Help! The song charted in the UK ...]]> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:24:51 +0000 Joe on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53574 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53574 I saw Dylan in London in 1990 - it was possibly the first concert I went to. In the concert programme there was a lengthy interview in which he repeatedly denied that any of his songs was political, though he eventually conceded that Masters Of War was. Obviously that's not entirely the case, but it's true that the majority of his career hasn't been even slightly political.

]]> Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:55:43 +0100 Ben Ramon on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53063 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53063

vonbontee said
Most of his political stuff was done within a very narrow time frame of a 50-year recording career. He recorded LOTS of political songs circa 1963-4...and only the very occasional one (like "George Jackson" or "Hurricane") ever since.

Agreed, but the narrow time frame you pointed out was the period which would have influenced John's songwriting in 1965, which was my original point.

]]> Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:44:04 +0100 vonbontee on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53058 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53058 Most of his political stuff was done within a very narrow time frame of a 50-year recording career. He recorded LOTS of political songs circa 1963-4...and only the very occasional one (like "George Jackson" or "Hurricane") ever since.

]]> Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:43:20 +0100 Ben Ramon on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53057 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53057

vonbontee said
Actually, Dylan really didn't do much "political" stuff at all...

How is that true? A good deal of Dylan's early work was comprised of politically-oriented "protest songs" regarding civil rights and opposing "warmongering" leaders. "Masters of War," "Blowin' in the Wind", "The Times They Are A-Changing", "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall", "Maggie's Farm", "Oxford Town", "Talkin' World War III Blues", "Bob Dylan's Dream", "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll", "Only A Pawn in Their Game" are all songs geared towards social and political change, and countless other ones contain reference to such things.

]]> Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:05:31 +0100 meanmistermustard on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53056 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53056 I think the stories grow legs from when people learn that John battered Bob Wooler for making insinuations at someone's birthday party, and there are stories of John calling Brian Epstein all kinds of names (too cruel to write here). However there is also the other side where John was comfortable enough around Brian to go to Spain for a holiday together (where nothing happened despite the rumours) and they were close friends. John had a heck of a lot of respect for Brian and gave him the credit for managing them as can be seen from when he said The Beatles were done for after ...]]> Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:52:21 +0100 vonbontee on You've got to hide your love away http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53055 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/youve-got-to-hide-your-love-away/page-2/#p53055 Actually, Dylan really didn't do much "political" stuff at all...

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