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You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
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27 February 2010
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Ronnie Hanoi said:

I was actually thinking of doing I've Just Seen A Face today... at least starting on it. I really like doing this covers, I like the stay as close to the original as possible, while making subtle changes. If anyone's got any other song ideas for me to do, let me know! I'd be happy to tackle anything!


 

How about Revolution 9?

4 June 2012
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I doubt very much that John had Brian in mind when he wrote YGTHYLA. Up to and including that point in his career, John wrote no songs that came close to dealing with social or political issues. For better or worse, John was very homophobic at this stage. To write a song about homosexual love would never had occurred to him during this period in his life. That's not to say that the song can't be applied to Brian's situation, but John most likely had one of his affairs in mind when he wrote it (as he did with "Norwegian Wood").

As for the questions John asked in "Baby You're A Rich Man", I believe you are correct. First, the questions: "How often have you been there?"; "What did you see when you were there?"; and "Now that you've found another key, what are you going to play?" Many of us who dropped acid in the 60's (not the 70's) did so in hope of gaining "enlightenment" or "cosmic consciousness" or some "other worldly" experience. The word "there", as John used it in the song, refers to that altered state of consciousness one achieves while tripping. You can take my word for it or search drug slang of the 60's.

If you look at a timeline of Brian's life between 1966 and 1967, you'll learn that Brian first dropped acid shortly before John wrote the lyrics for "One Of The Beautiful People", the original title of his portion of BYARM. In effect, John was "welcoming" Brian to the world of psychedelics. Contrary to what some people believe, John did not hate the "Beautiful People" at that time. The term referred to anyone who had been changed in a positive way by use of LSD or other means, so John would have considered himself part of that group. Later, after the "Summer of Love" in 1967, both John and George became disillusioned by the so-called "hippie" movement which was overrun by people dropping acid for recreational purposes.

Much of what I've posted here can be Googled if you have the time and patience. Sadly, much information about this song was published in music magazines at that time which have not been archived on any websites.

Hope this helps.

4 June 2012
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TomMo said
I doubt very much that John had Brian in mind when he wrote YGTHYLA. Up to and including that point in his career, John wrote no songs that came close to dealing with social or political issues. For better or worse, John was very homophobic at this stage. To write a song about homosexual love would never had occurred to him during this period in his life. That's not to say that the song can't be applied to Brian's situation, but John most likely had one of his affairs in mind when he wrote it (as he did with "
Norwegian Wood").

Very informed and interesting views apple01 I don't think John was THAT homophobic by 1965 though. He obviously would have jeered at it a bit before he reformed his views on such things in later years, and I'm sure Brian would have had to put up with copious Lennonesque jibes, but if he was very homophobic he surely wouldn't have tolerated Brian being a close friend and huge presence in his life. Also you say that he didn't write any songs in that period which came close to social and political issues but they were certainly on the doorstep: I'd argue that "The Word" and "Nowhere Man", written in the same year, are his first songs which deal with such things. How do you know that some of his lyrics up to that point weren't somewhat related to these topics, just on a far more subtle level? Remember at that time he was heavily influenced as a songwriter by Dylan's often political output, and when the Beatles met Elvis in 1965 John's hackles were reportedly raised when Elvis stated that he supported the Vietnam War. 

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4 June 2012
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vonbontee said
Actually, Dylan really didn't do much "political" stuff at all...

How is that true? A good deal of Dylan's early work was comprised of politically-oriented "protest songs" regarding civil rights and opposing "warmongering" leaders. "Masters of War," "Blowin' in the Wind", "The Times They Are A-Changing", "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall", "Maggie's Farm", "Oxford Town", "Talkin' World War III Blues", "Bob Dylan's Dream", "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll", "Only A Pawn in Their Game" are all songs geared towards social and political change, and countless other ones contain reference to such things.

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How did I not know about the cover version of this song by The Silkie until just now?? I mean, I knew that a band called The Silkie recorded their own version, but practically everything else in this paragraph I've only learned in the last half-hour:

The group were helped by John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison to record their cover version of "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" on 9 August 1965 at the IBC Studios at around the same time as The Beatles' own version was released on their album Help! The song charted in the UK at # 28 and also reached # 10 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 in the same year.[1] Lennon produced, McCartney played the guitar and Harrison kept time by tapping his guitar and also playing the tambourine. When the recording was completed, Lennon was so pleased with it that he played it over the phone to Brian Epstein and told him that they had just recorded a Number 1 hit.

Produced by John Lennon! (Was this the first outside production job by a Beatle??) Paul on guitar and George on percussion - a peculiar division of instruments that doesn't occur on any Beatles recording that I can think of offhand. And I had no idea the song was such a substantial hit - I've never heard it myself, which is pretty strange except for that fact that it doesn't appear to have charted at all in Canada. (Which, considering that it was a UK and USA hit, is a whole different kind of strange.) But still, I can't believe I've never even heard it on oldies radio...

Anyways, nothing earth-shattering here, just my amazement that I never knew this stuff until a half-hour ago. A guy thinks he really knows his Beatles trivia, then discovers that there's always more to learn!

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

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The Silkie version is an interesting version.

Did chart in Canada vonbontee. Debuted on the CHUM chart in Nov 1965, peaked at #12 & charted for 9 weeks

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24 January 2013
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BeatleMark said
Hmm, that's a good one!  Almost thought you were sarcastic for a moment.  :-P   I don't know if John had Brian somewhat in mind while writing this song.  Back then, homosexual attractions were not considered the same sensation as "love" and therefore did not have the widespread (mostly liberal atheistic american influence) appeal as the sickness does today. 

Wait wait wait.. hold the phone...  are you actually calling homosexuality a sickness??!  It makes me sick that we still have to read that kind of dribble in 2013!  So sad, the way some people's minds still work.  It's funny because on Facebook yesterday some narrow minded hillbilly (from my hometown, so glad I moved away years ago) was making rude anti-gay comments about Anderson Cooper (on a mutual friends wall).  So tired of it.  a-hard-days-night-paul-11

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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