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'Yes It Is' - A little bit out of tune?
4 September 2012
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tkj
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Am I the only one who thinks 'Yes It Is' is a little bit out of tune some places? Like the first line : 'if you wear red , toniiiiiiiiiiight' 
The 'tonight' sounds a little bit wrong in my ears. What do you think?

 

 

After listening to it a thousand times to check if its out of tune, I've kinda got used to it and now I think it sounds in tune. lol, but the first 20 times I heard it I thought it didnt sound right.

4 September 2012
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tkj said
Am I the only one who thinks 'Yes It Is' is a little bit out of tune some places? Like the first line : 'if you wear red , toniiiiiiiiiiight' 
The 'tonight' sounds a little bit wrong in my ears. What do you think?

 

Right you are.

 

Check out "I want to tell you" for even bigger dissonances.

4 September 2012
3.35pm
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I never thought it was out of tune; just sounds like an unconventional harmony vocal on somebody's part. Can't be sure, though.

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4 September 2012
7.11pm
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What Von Bontee said.  a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

 

I always thought it was just an added tone chord they were singing.ahdn_paul_01

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4 September 2012
8.05pm
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I always thought they were going for it sounding out of tune.

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5 September 2012
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unknown said
I always thought they were going for it sounding out of tune.

But why would they go for that?

5 September 2012
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It's out of tune because the dissonant, complex harmonies don't necessarily fit over the guitar chords. To be honest it was something they could have fixed by changing one note in the instrumental part, but I think the clash works anyway. The same thing occurs in I'll Be Back- "you know, if you break my heart I'll go…" George and John (I think) sing notes which are a tone apart.

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5 September 2012
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Ben Ramon said
It's out of tune because the dissonant, complex harmonies don't necessarily fit over the guitar chords. To be honest it was something they could have fixed by changing one note in the instrumental part, but I think the clash works anyway. The same thing occurs in I'll Be Back- "you know, if you break my heart I'll go…" George and John (I think) sing notes which are a tone apart.

Sorry, I disagree.

I LOVE "clashing" notes (check out any Police album for Sting's backing vocals), and that is not the trouble here.

The simple truth is:

They're just a LITTLE bit out of tune. End of story.

It's in fact the low note (out of the three), and it's the same at the second "tonight" in the first verse and the first "tonight" in the third verse. Low notes are harder to hit anyways, and maybe the syllable doesn't help.

"Wore" in the second verse is fine, as is the "tonight" in verse four. Here the clashing notes sound very well.

 

Happened to other groups as well, check out "Monday, Monday" by the Mamas and Papas for some out of tune singing after the break.

Usually the Beatles' harmonies were perfect, and the rest of the song is so good you don't even remember the small flaws.

5 September 2012
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It's a question of philosophy – if they listened to the playback and liked what they heard and decided to keep it (as they probably did), is it really "out of tune"?

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5 September 2012
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Obviously not to them. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

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5 September 2012
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Von Bontee said
It's a question of philosophy – if they listened to the playback and liked what they heard and decided to keep it (as they probably did), is it really "out of tune"?

Sorry to disagree again, being out of tune is for once not a question of taste or preference but simple physics.

I'm totally NOT an expert, even less in English language, but it's a matter of Hertz and stuff.

When a note is too deep, it dissonates.

 

Question is: Do you like it and leave it that way or not?

Answer in this case: They appear to have liked it and they obviously left it in.

Is it still out of tune?

Yes, of course!

Were they ok with it?

Obviously!

Everyone who ever recorded music in the studio knows situations where you just reach a point when you say "Let's leave it at that, it's ok!" even despite some minor flaws.

We'll never know what their thoughts were.

It's still a very nice song.

5 September 2012
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paulsbass said

Ben Ramon said
It's out of tune because the dissonant, complex harmonies don't necessarily fit over the guitar chords. To be honest it was something they could have fixed by changing one note in the instrumental part, but I think the clash works anyway. The same thing occurs in I'll Be Back- "you know, if you break my heart I'll go…" George and John (I think) sing notes which are a tone apart.

Sorry, I disagree.

I LOVE "clashing" notes (check out any Police album for Sting's backing vocals), and that is not the trouble here.

The simple truth is:

They're just a LITTLE bit out of tune. End of story.

It's in fact the low note (out of the three), and it's the same at the second "tonight" in the first verse and the first "tonight" in the third verse. Low notes are harder to hit anyways, and maybe the syllable doesn't help.

"Wore" in the second verse is fine, as is the "tonight" in verse four. Here the clashing notes sound very well.

I've just listened to it through again and thought about it with the chords and yeah, you are right on this. It does sag flat a little bit at the times you mentioned (think it might be George?) But even then, I think the strange chord gives a weird atmosphere and helps the song; it does have an oddly eerie tone and subject matter (is it about a guy whose girlfriend has died, and he's imploring his next one not to wear red because that's what "his baby" wore in life? Or on the night of her death? It's all very Miss Havisham).

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