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Worst Beatles Song
16 July 2013
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Damn, if you've listened to the song only once, you have NO RIGHT to comment negatively upon it imo!

Welcome to the forum Paperback Writer! Have you seen the "Introduce Yourself" thread?

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16 July 2013
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You've probably all lost interest in this topic by now!  but this is my first time in the forum so for what it's worth………..Never been a fan of 'Julia' although it feels a bit mean to say it because it was obviously a very personal song for Lennon.

 

Egroeg Evoli said
So… of the songs on the official studio albums (to make it easier), what do you think is the worst Beatles song? (I did an advanced search, but if there's already a thread like this, please tell me.)

I think it's Her Majesty.

Oh, yeah, one more thing: Revolution 9 doesn't count. a-hard-days-night-john-1

 

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16 July 2013
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I've noticed a lot of people don't seem to like 'Julia'. This surprises me. I know John's voice could sound a little better but the lyrics and the way he sings are just so touching. I love it, it completely relaxes me every time, although it's tinged with sadness.

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16 July 2013
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Von Bontee said
Damn, if you've listened to the song only once, you have NO RIGHT to comment negatively upon it imo!

 

Um, Paperback Writer has as much right as anyone to express an opinion whether they've heard a song once or a thousand times. If that's their reaction, that's their reaction. If you find something unpleasant once, you don't have to keep experiencing it over and over again to confirm the feeling.

And what a freaking welcome for a newcomer, sheesh.

For the record, I've heard "Being for the Benefit…" several times and I still hate it.

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16 July 2013
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Ive heard lots of songs once and refuse to go back to them ever. Ive only ever eaten certain foods once and found them revolting, I aint going back to try them again either.

However im a huge of Messer's Kite and Henderson and the dancing horse, so much I love about that song.

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16 July 2013
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I'm not a fan of:

Doctor Robert, Little Child (ultimate creeper song, me thinks a-hard-days-night-george-10 ), Maxwell's Silver Hammer and What Goes On.

I also hate listening to Love Me Do when I'm in a room with other people…I don't know why it just seems to be a bad representation of The Beatles music if you're trying to get people interested into them also the constant repeating of the word "love" in some of their songs (not in all of them e.g All You Need Is Love but the songs where "love" is about the 8th word every time; it aggravates me). But when I'm alone Love Me Do is great!

I can listen to the songs above ^^ I'm just not mad on them but I guess I could also put some of George's Rubber Soul songs on there as well :/

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16 July 2013
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Paperback Writer said
I really, really hate " Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite". It freaks me out and makes me think of Stephen King's "It" :D I've listened to this song just once and from there on I always skip it.

Then you should never listen to the LOVE version, where it's mixed with Helter Skelter, I want you (she's so heavy) and something else. Brrr, once, but never again. Creeped the shit out of me.

I do like Being for the benefit of Mr Kite itself though.

16 July 2013
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parlance said

Von Bontee said
Damn, if you've listened to the song only once, you have NO RIGHT to comment negatively upon it imo!

 

Um, Paperback Writer has as much right as anyone to express an opinion whether they've heard a song once or a thousand times. If that's their reaction, that's their reaction. If you find something unpleasant once, you don't have to keep experiencing it over and over again to confirm the feeling.

And what a freaking welcome for a newcomer, sheesh.

For the record, I've heard "Being for the Benefit…" several times and I still hate it.

parlance

Parlance, I added an "imo" at the end of my remark up there; that means "in my opinion". And as you noted yourself, we're ALL allowed to voice our opinions here – you, Paperback Writer, and myself! And my opinion is that it's wildly premature to base an opinion as all-important as "worst Beatles song" on a single listening. There are many songs I happen to love (some by the Beatles!) that took me many listenings to fully appreciate. Maybe it's good to be so trusting of your initial reactions that a second (or tenth) listening isn't necessary; I wish I had that much self-confidence! But I would think that somebody wouldn't take the time to investigate this site and register for an account unless they loved the Beatles enough to give another listening (it takes 3 minutes!) to a song that millions of other people love. Then you could at least be TWICE as sure you hated it!

As for "what a freaking welcome for a newcomer" – maybe my initial tone of bemused disbelief was mistaken for genuine outrage and disgust. (Maybe I should've added a just-kiddin smiley at the end of it?) But I immediately followed that up with a sincere welcome and invitation to post in the "Introduce Yourself" forum. At any rate, Paperback Writer can speak for him-or-herself and let me know if I offended them, in which case they'll get an honest apology.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
17 July 2013
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Von Bontee said

Parlance, I added an "imo" at the end of my remark up there; that means "in my opinion". And as you noted yourself, we're ALL allowed to voice our opinions here – you, Paperback Writer, and myself! And my opinion is that it's wildly premature to base an opinion as all-important as "worst Beatles song" on a single listening. There are many songs I happen to love (some by the Beatles!) that took me many listenings to fully appreciate. Maybe it's good to be so trusting of your initial reactions that a second (or tenth) listening isn't necessary; I wish I had that much self-confidence! But I would think that somebody wouldn't take the time to investigate this site and register for an account unless they loved the Beatles enough to give another listening (it takes 3 minutes!) to a song that millions of other people love. Then you could at least be TWICE as sure you hated it!

I noted the "IMO," but I thought it was way overshadowed by the virulent statement of having "no right." I realize the concept's been watered down to a figure of speech, but, really, it seemed a more aggressive sentiment than warranted in support of a song, or one's ability to judge a song.

As for first impressions vs second chances, yes, sometimes you change your mind. But sometimes you do just know, based on your preferences.

As for "what a freaking welcome for a newcomer" – maybe my initial tone of bemused disbelief was mistaken for genuine outrage and disgust. (Maybe I should've added a just-kiddin smiley at the end of it?) But I immediately followed that up with a sincere welcome and invitation to post in the "Introduce Yourself" forum. At any rate, Paperback Writer can speak for him-or-herself and let me know if I offended them, in which case they'll get an honest apology.

They can speak for themselves, yes. But I know it can be intimidating for a first post to receive such a strong reaction from a veteran, so I felt the need to say something.

parlance

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17 July 2013
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8For what it's worth, I am familiar with Von's sense of humor and/or "tones of bemused disbelief". When I first read his post, I knew it was not offensive and that he meant no harm. A newcomer, however, may not know how to interpret that.

So, Von – no harm no foul.

And parlance, thanks for defending the rights of someone you felt was wronged.

I love how this Forum tends to 'police' itself. You guys rock.

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17 July 2013
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apple01 & heart  :-D

 

parlance

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17 July 2013
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Oops, I didn't mean to send that last one – I started it before yours and Zig's more recent replies and my points were already addressed! Now I look like a jerk for having continued the squabble even after receiving all those apples! :( Anyways, I've made my basic point and it's counterproductive to prolong this, so I'll just say sorry and move on.

1. Sorry!
2. Moving on!

Apples, etc.

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17 July 2013
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Von Bontee said
Saying somebody has "no right" to comment on a song is pretty obviously nonsensical on its face – of course he has the right! And for me to type the phrase in ALL CAPS makes it an even more hysterical overreaction, one so over-the-top that, to my thinking, it simply can't be taken seriously. And even if the point is still missed, I immediately brush it all aside and welcome them to the forum – in other words, implicitly inviting them to, you know, share their opinions and comments! Wow, first I take away their rights, then I go "lol just kidding, come in, have a seat!" Confusing!

Hence my line above, "I realize the concept's been watered down to a figure of speech."

apple01 to you.

parlance

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17 July 2013
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Von Bontee said

Oops, I didn't mean to send that last one

And now I've gone and DELETED that last one by mistake, when I wanted to keep it there in the interests of transparency! But at least Parlance still has part off it quoted, so we all know it existed.

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18 July 2013
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I completely agree!  I cringe when Love Me Do is played when I'm with people I know are not fans and I have to fight the instinct to apologise! but I otherwise quite enjoy the song – one of many that I've grown to appreciate over several hearings. That's also the point about not writing a song off on first listening, they can grow on you given the chance. That said……..I still don't much like Doctor Robert, What Goes On or, dare I say it, Here, There and Everywhere.  I can appreciate now that it's a well constructed song but it sounds too scmaltzy and syrupy for my liking.

BTW – what songs would you choose to introduce a non-fan to the Fab Four?

AppleScruffJunior said
I'm not a fan of:

Doctor Robert, Little Child (ultimate creeper song, me thinks a-hard-days-night-george-10 ), Maxwell's Silver Hammer and What Goes On.

I also hate listening to Love Me Do when I'm in a room with other people…I don't know why it just seems to be a bad representation of The Beatles music if you're trying to get people interested into them also the constant repeating of the word "love" in some of their songs (not in all of them e.g All You Need Is Love but the songs where "love" is about the 8th word every time; it aggravates me). But when I'm alone Love Me Do is great!

I can listen to the songs above ^^ I'm just not mad on them but I guess I could also put some of George's Rubber Soul songs on there as well :/

 

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18 July 2013
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I've always hated Love Me Do. I wish I had only heard it once, but I have not.

Why would you listen to a song over and over again if you're so certain you hate it and it just disgusts you? I wouldn't torture myself with that. I mean, I've had some songs that have grown on me after having listened to them several times, but I didn't HATE those songs. I just didn't love them in first instance. 

18 July 2013
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@LadyBay Help! is a great song to introduce to non-Beatles fans (it's what I did a-hard-days-night-george-10 ). Playing the Help! album is great as well purely because it's just a great pop album none of the psychedelic amazing-weirdness of Sgt.Pepper's or Revolver which could overwhelm people. George's later songs While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something, Here Comes The Sun- they are great songs to introduce people to the band just because they are great songs I don't see how you could dislike/hate WMGGW or HCTS, Something maybe if you're a love-deprived grouch but those songs are just legendary, amazing songs.

 

 

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19 July 2013
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 I guess I would always want to go back and revisit a song I hated first up just to give it another go or maybe work out why I hate it, but no, I wouldn't sit and listen over and over again to a song I'd decided wasn't my thing.  I'm always curious though when you hear someone talk about a song or album, one that I always skip over, saying it's their favourite, or pointing out what it is that they like about it.  It's what has kept me going back to much of the White Album – to listen again and try and hear what it is that someone else likes so much.

All great suggestions ASJ, I don't know how anyone could not fall for those. I might add the Hard Day's night album as well. If I could talk them into it, I would get them to watch the Anthology. When that first screened, I sat down to watch a bit, not knowing (or caring!) much about The Beatles – at the end of ten or eleven hours, I was in love!

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19 July 2013
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I tasted a piece of broccoli once, didn't care for it. Definitely the worst vegetable ever.

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19 July 2013
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@Lady Bay I don't think AHDN album is that great to introduce new fans. There's lots of great songs on there that really express their talent well but there are also a couple that would sound a bit samey-samey if you've never heard them before. I'd probably out them the White Album on, as it shows that they could adapt to anything they wanted to.

Welcome, by the way! :D

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