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Was Ticket to Ride really the first metal song?
20 June 2012
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fabfouremily
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I thought that Helter Skelter was the first time heavy metal was spoken of, does that make it the first one? I don´t know. I can´t remember where I heard/read that either so I can´t be sure.

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20 June 2012
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I'm in the minority of Beatles fans that believes Helter Skelter wasn't the first metal song. It's just noisy, abrasive rock and roll, it's not got any of the "technical" side which characterises most metal. It's more proto-proto-punk in it's execution and style. In the same way Blue Cheer, mentioned by Old Siam Sir, are more just psychedelic blues rock to my ears. They were just heavier than anyone before.

As for Ticket To Ride being the first metal song, that's just rubbish that John cooked up in an interview when he was in a pro-Beatles mood if you ask me.

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21 June 2012
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I think quite often Lennon would say things without really thinking them through, or caring how they'd be interpreted. Once they were in print they'd be taken as his firm beliefs (I'm guilty of this sometimes), when they were just off-the-cuff comments. I think the TTR/metal thing was one of those.

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21 June 2012
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I've said this before, but I don't think John literally said "heavy metal" – I believe that the quote from the Wenner interview regarding TTR was something like "That's a fuckin' heavy song for that time" or such. He didn't use the word "metal", and I suspect he may have meant "heavy" as in deep or meaningful. Aside from that, I have no idea how he could've heard metal in "Ticket To Ride"'s tricky beats and chiming 12-string guitars! But if there's another source besides that Wenner interview (like say the David Sheff interview, maybe) wherein John actually uses the phrase "heavy metal" in describing the song, I'll happily revise my opinion.

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22 June 2012
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That's me, one of the earliest heavy-metal records. Paul's contribution was the way Ringo played the drums.

It was in the David Sheff interview for Playboy, 1980. http://www.beatlesbible.com/so…..t-to-ride/

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