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I'm surprised that a forum of Beatles fans wouldn't know that the phrase "must not be so" is a Britishism.

fabfouremily said

Funny Paper said

Linde said

Funny Paper said
I'm surprised that a forum of Beatles fans wouldn't know that the phrase "must not be so" is a Britishism.

 

How are you supposed to know that if you're not British?

Not being British isn't an excuse for me though, as we have the exact same phrase in Dutch..only err..in Dutch obviously.

Yeah, but non-British Beatles fans, if they know who "Mal" is, then certainly they would have picked up on various British colloquialisms by now -- you'd think.

It´s not really a colloquialism and there´s no reason why you would pick up on that, I mean I´m English and I didn´t see that that was what it meant ´till it was pointed out.

 

It may be a case of an old-fashioned expression -- one which Paul would remember, having a father and Aunts coming out of the 1920s/30s/40s, an era practically culturally connected to the 19th century.  "Don't be so!" would be the Victorian schoolmarm admonishing her wayward pupil standing there in his jam-stained pinafores -- where "so" means "like that" or "such a bad boy" etc.

fabfouremily said

Funny Paper said

fabfouremily said

Funny Paper said

Linde said

Funny Paper said
I'm surprised that a forum of Beatles fans wouldn't know that the phrase "must not be so" is a Britishism.

 

How are you supposed to know that if you're not British?

Not being British isn't an excuse for me though, as we have the exact same phrase in Dutch..only err..in Dutch obviously.

Yeah, but non-British Beatles fans, if they know who "Mal" is, then certainly they would have picked up on various British colloquialisms by now -- you'd think.

It´s not really a colloquialism and there´s no reason why you would pick up on that, I mean I´m English and I didn´t see that that was what it meant ´till it was pointed out.

 

It may be a case of an old-fashioned expression -- one which Paul would remember, having a father and Aunts coming out of the 1920s/30s/40s, an era practically culturally connected to the 19th century.  "Don't be so!" would be the Victorian schoolmarm admonishing her wayward pupil standing there in his jam-stained pinafores -- where "so" means "like that" or "such a bad boy" etc.

I was aware of the expression, I just think that it´s perfectly normal that people didn´t/don´t pick up on it.

 

Well, in certain instances above, it's not merely a matter of passively "not picking up on it" -- but of positively persisting in scratching one's head and wondering why Paul wrote it, and what it means, and why didn't he add something (and even going so far as to imaginatively supply some way to correct the supposed deficiency!).  That bespeaks positive active ignorance of what should be known once one gives a minute's thought to the matter. 

DrBeatle said

kato1964 said
I wish they'd put "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" on Sgt Pepper's, as originally intended.

I can agree with that. They were basically forced into releasing those as a single so there'd be something to fill the gap between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. Boggles the mind that 2 songs that great were tossed out as a stopgap single!!!!!!!

I may be wrong, but back in that era, 45s were not considered marginal, but quite pivotal both in terms of consumers wanting them, and musicians/producers making lots of $$$ off of them.  I.e., for a while they were an integral part of music technology/culture.  Prior to 45s, people only had LPs, and back then LPs were even thicker and heavier than they later came to be.  When the 45 was invented and mass-produced, it was a hot sensation, like when 8-tracks first came out, then cassette boomboxes, then CDs, then ipods…

And others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect many popular bands and individual musicians put out 45s of songs ("singles") -- even on both A and B sides -- that were not on any LP at the time.

Plus, don't forget that staple of the consumer music scene -- the jukebox in drug stores, bowling alleys, diners, bars, etc.  The jukebox, for the young whippersnappers here, was a console with a pane of glass where the person could see inside a carousel of like 100 45s all lined up and ready to be played (I think by a needle at a right angle), activated by plopping in a coin (not sure how much they charged in the 60s, maybe a nickel or a dime), then pushing two coordinating buttons which were lined up in rows on the front panel, with the name of the song and the artist beside or beneath each button.

I remember my first jukebox experience:  I was 9 years old, living in Acapulco, Mexico (my mother had fled from a divorce to drive a station wagon all the way there from Virginia, with me and my older brother and sister all in tow), and one day I went to the "Big Boy" -- sort of like a McDonald's restaurant -- and I saw on the jukebox panel the "Theme of Hawaii 5-0", my favorite show.  I was a bit disappointed, though; the Ventures version lacked a lot of the "punch" of the TV theme music.