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17 December 2012
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I really wish they’d left John and George’s harmony on “Can’t Buy Me Love “. I love the final version, but I think the harmony gives the song a lot more soul.


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17 December 2012
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I wish they had put a bit more thought into the anthology tracks and not included the Emerick sessions mixes which are not good to say the least. Wouldnt have taken long to get the original tapes out.

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17 December 2012
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I wish they’d left those children voices out of Across The Universe

I wish they’d done something different to Don’t Pass Me By . I don’t like the fiddle. They’ve also done something weird to his voice. Ringo nearly sounds like a chipmunk.

17 December 2012
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Linde said
I wish they’d done something different to Don’t Pass Me By .

Same, like not recorded it.

 

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17 December 2012
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I used to love Dont Pass Me By but now i usually only play it in the context of its original setting where it bounds along all jolly between Rocky and Doing It In The Road. I actually prefer the unedited version thats been bootlegged.

The Spector and Anthology versions of The Long And Winding Road had been switched on their respective albums.

 Spector hadnt turned his attention to Across The Universe and turned it into a dirge.

 

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17 December 2012
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I wish they had put “Leave My Kitten Alone ” on Beatles For Sale . John gave such a great performance.a-hard-days-night-john-6

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17 December 2012
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Leave My Kitten Alone should’ve been on Beatles For Sale instead of Mr. Moonlight

That Means A Lot on Help ! instead of It’s Only Love or Tell Me What You See

Not Guilty and What’s The New Mary Jane on the White Album instead of Don’t Pass Me By and Revolution 9

Spector not screwing up Let it Be, Long and Winding Road, Across The Universe , or I Me Mine

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Let’s see.. You Know What To Do should’ve been polished and released on A Hard Day’s Night somewhere, or refined better for the style of Beatles For Sale whose sessions it was recorded for. If You’ve Got Trouble or That Means A Lot both would have made good additions to Help ! despite their doubts, but I don’t feel like it would have been much better. Not Guilty definitely should have been put on the album, and Wild Honey Pie wiped off the face of the earth. Had George gotten his fair share on the Beatles’ albums, this most likely would have been done in the first place. They did over 100 takes on it..

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17 December 2012
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One thing I wish they would have done differently is staying together instead of breaking up.

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17 December 2012
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I wish they’d taken greater care with recording “It’s All Too Much “. I love it but it’s too sloppy really, especially towards the end.

I wish they hadn’t released any of those singles where both sides are from an album. (That said, putting out several songs from an album as singles is already a bit rich even with great b-sides attached, as with Help !). I always feel it’s strange that those 4 singles are such a bunch of rip-offs when hardly anything else they released while active was.

I wish they’d found a 14th song for A Hard Day’s Night . Can’t help it – the 6 songs on side 2 offend my (misguided?) sense of symmetry. Didn’t George have anything lying around at the time?

I wish they’d released an EP with the 4 new songs from the Yellow Submarine movie rather than that really weird, inconsistent LP.

I wish they’d taken a break after the White Album . Just a little one.

 

 

17 December 2012
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Holsety said
Let’s see.. You Know What To Do should’ve been polished and released on A Hard Day’s Night somewhere, or refined better for the style of Beatles For Sale whose sessions it was recorded for. If You’ve Got Trouble or That Means A Lot both would have made good additions to Help ! despite their doubts, but I don’t feel like it would have been much better. Not Guilty definitely should have been put on the album, and Wild Honey Pie wiped off the face of the earth. Had George gotten his fair share on the Beatles’ albums, this most likely would have been done in the first place. They did over 100 takes on it..

I’m glad I’m not the only one that likes You Know What To Do.  Simplistic song but definitely should have found its way in the main Beatles catalog.  Agree as well with Not Guilty .

Other wishes:

Hey Bulldog ended up on the White Album instead hidden on Yellow Submarine .

-Used the Anthology version of “White my guitar gently weeps’ and maybe it something like Revolution 1 on an album

-In general, more J+P dual vocals in the later years

-In general, more band involvement in the later years, less watlzing on “I Me Mine ” and more time spent figuining out how to make the song better with your involvement (cough John)

 

 

Things I’m GLAD they didn’t do different:

-Release the Pakistani version as the main version of “Get Back

-Refuse to smoke marijuana

17 December 2012
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tkj said
One thing I wish they would have done differently is staying together instead of breaking up.

And gradually decline into mediocrity like any other band, rather than breaking up at the height of their powers and remaining in a state of eternal acclaim? I’m glad they broke up when they did.

Actually, I wish they’d put out one more album, perhaps in 1971, working together on the choice cuts from their early solo work, and whatever else was being reserved throughout the Get Back sessions, produced of course by George Martin. Maybe I’m Amazed and Instant Karma as singles (although I’d imagine Instant Karma would be a very different beast with a non-Spector production).

 

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18 December 2012
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I wish they didnt have to play a 30 minute concert of their hits and a few others and instead were able to play whatever the heck they felt like. They would have enjoyed it more for longer and would have made it such a great listening experience looking back if it wasnt 39 She Loves You .

I wish Hold Me Tight on With The Beatles had been sentenced to the vaults and then lost forever as the song sucks (see below). The biggest piece of tat on any beatles record and at least if we didnt have it we could pine and imagine it was a long lost nugget of Beatle gold. Everytime i hear it i detest it a little bit more.

 

Another big up for You Know What To Do, doesnt deserve to languish on Anthology 1 .

Im glad That Means A Lot and If You Got Troubles werent on Help ! For occasional listening they are ok but it would drive me to tears if i had to listen to them if i wanted to play the Help ! album in full. Its bad enough coming across Hold Me Tight on With The Beatles (ahhhh which reminds me – see above).

I may be one of the few who is quite happy that George only got 4 White Album tracks as i like the symmetry of 1 George track per each side and 1 Ringo per disc. I know his material is better but the symmetry works.

They were right to go out on a high with Abbey Road or Let It Be depending on your stance on their last album. Either works. The Beatles are one of the few bands who quit whilst still making excellent music and didnt hang about until they were repeating ideas, melodies and boring the pants off their fans.

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18 December 2012
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I wish they’d put all their differences temporarily on hold to have performed at Woodstock in ’69.

Here are the songs they could have done, in this order:

1. Come Together

2. Back in the U.S.S.R.

3. Helter Skelter

4. I Want You

5. She Loves You , Yeah, Yeah, Yeah (with guests Jimi Hendrix and Carlos Santana)

 

 

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I always think about how great ‘Let It Be ‘ would have been, had it been recorded in a traditional studio with George Martin.  I love what it is, but I think it’s an album best enjoyed not knowing the circumstances of its existence.

 

And I also wonder what it would have been like if George and Ringo had become musical partners after the band broke up…

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Holsety said
Let’s see.. You Know What To Do should’ve been polished and released on A Hard Day’s Night somewhere, or refined better for the style of Beatles For Sale whose sessions it was recorded for. If You’ve Got Trouble or That Means A Lot both would have made good additions to Help ! despite their doubts, but I don’t feel like it would have been much better. Not Guilty definitely should have been put on the album, and Wild Honey Pie wiped off the face of the earth. Had George gotten his fair share on the Beatles’ albums, this most likely would have been done in the first place. They did over 100 takes on it..

Meh, If You’ve Got Trouble is quite a weak song in my opinion. Especially the lyrics. Act Naturally was a good choice.

 

And yeah, I hate Wild Honey Pie too. Surely there must’ve been better material than that.

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tkj said
One thing I wish they would have done differently is staying together instead of breaking up.

And gradually decline into mediocrity like any other band, rather than breaking up at the height of their powers and remaining in a state of eternal acclaim? I’m glad they broke up when they did.

Actually, I wish they’d put out one more album, perhaps in 1971, working together on the choice cuts from their early solo work, and whatever else was being reserved throughout the Get Back sessions, produced of course by George Martin. Maybe I’m Amazed and Instant Karma as singles (although I’d imagine Instant Karma would be a very different beast with a non-Spector production).

 

Combine John Lennons solo carrier and Pauls solo carrier and I think you would get more than just a mediocrity band. But I see what you mean though, but I dont think The Beatles would start to suck at least before 1980. 

18 December 2012
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Another thing- I wish, wish, wish Paul had elected Come And Get It (or Maybe I’m Amazed if he had written by that time, or in fact anything) as the third track on Abbey Road rather than Maxwell’s Silver Hammer . I do like Maxwell a lot, but it’s a bloody shame that the record opens with two stone-cold transcendental classics by John and George, and then Paul’s contributing to that opening trilogy is a divisive, admittedly pretty silly piece of novelty pop. A lot of people who aren’t so much in the know criticise Paul on Abbey Road – “oh god, he did that stupid hammer song didn’t he” and because of that fail entirely to realise that he masterminded the medley.

 

 

 

 

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18 December 2012
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Another thing I can think of….Released “Whats the New Mary Jane” on one of the albums.  I honestly don’t recall what sessions they were recorded in (White Album ?).  But I seem to recall that this was going to be a B-side at some point, and was a completely completed track…maybe instead of on an album, go with what was intended.  A Not Guilty /What’s The New Mary Jane ? single sounds good to me.  Also, if they can convince John to take off that 4 minutes of jibberish at the end, that would be great.  Get to it boys!

Does anyone want to go with some extreme suggestions?

How about…what if they added Eric Clapton to the band during the Get Back  sessions.  I don’t *really* want this to happen, as I love how the Beatles legacy turned out, but lets look at things here…..

The Beatles were increasingly dissatisfied with each other, and I’m not going to go into the money squabbles/Klein/Yoko Bashing/Northern Songs/etc.  this is a fantasty and it’s mine.  The Beatles were increasingly recording their parts seperately, or not participating on tracks at all.  As we know, George walked out of the Get Back sessions, and Clapton was offhandedly suggested as a replacement by John.  What if George comes back with Clapton?  At the time George was at his creative peak and was pumping out great songs.  Paul was increasingly playing guitar/bass on his own tracks, John was all over the place.  Would George be upset if he was only the co-lead guitarist with Clapton offering his expertise for some of those Solo Paul or John or George sessions.  Clapton could have energized the band acted as a buffer for some of the resentment that was going on at the time.  My image is this is George being elavated to mostly co-lead song writer with John and Paul and the Beatles turning into a superband that doesn’t need to all collaborate on every track (they werent anyways).  George writes a song and wants Eric on guitars and Paul is willing to play bass?  Awesome. I don’t know if this was a real Paul quote, but I saw it on “Lennon Naked” where Derek Taylor was complaining about how the White Album contained too many solo recordings (mentioning Julia and Blackbird by name), and a spaced out Paul replied ‘a Beatle recorded the song, ergo it is Beatle music’.

OK, I am f’ing crazy, what the hell am I talking about?  I will say though, they wouldnt be the first band to pop out a couple of more quality years by adding a high profile band member.

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Mary Jane was going to be a Plastic Ono Band single with You Know My Name but the other fabs wouldnt give permission so Mary Jane stayed in the vaults until Anthology 2 (or until it was bootlegged in about 18 version depending on how you see it) and You Know My ended up as the b-side to Let It Be – well thats the story as i know it. There is a 2 minute 40 odd (i think thats the right length, it was edited way down anyway) second mix of Mary Jane out there by the way.

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