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The Rolling Stone top 100 List
21 July 2013
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Does anyone else feel that this list is terrible?  

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Granted, they had enough good taste to put "I Want To Hold Your Hand" second, but "Sexy Sadie" at #93 and "Hey Bulldog" at #81?  Those are the two best basslines McCartney ever wrote!

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21 July 2013
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These things are so arbitrary.  While Rolling Stone is usually fairly reliable and surprisingly unbiased with most of its lists (the 500 Greatest Albums list was very fair and inclusive), there's just no practical way to take a catalogue of 300 songs (or about 225 written by the band) and whittle it down to 100 without leaving off masterpieces.

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21 July 2013
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I thought the RS 500 Greatest list had a massive baby boomer bias, and that having 9 out of the top 10 as white artists was a joke.  Leaving Miles Davis out of the top 10, and not a single John Coletrain record?  Please.  They should have just done the 500 greatest albums by white baby boomers and been done with it.

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21 July 2013
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But to be fair, their choices have stood the test of time and are universally lauded.  And the entire list includes a plethora of black artists and black-dominated genres, like rap and blues.  Jazz was certainly unrepresented, but mostly because RS doesn't consider itself an authority on Jazz (at least not anymore).  Jazz really deserves its own list anyway.

When you try to be overly-inclusive, your list becomes meaningless.  Entertainment Weekly recently made a list of what they consider the best 100 albums of all-time, and they called Kayne West's 2010 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' #8, Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' #4, Adele's '21' #17 and Notorious B.I.G.'s 'Ready To Die' #31.

Sgt. Pepper...?  Didn't make the list.

Blonde on Blonde...?  Didn't make the list.

Never Mind The Bollocks...?  Didn't make the list.

While Kayne, MJ, Adele and Biggie's albums can certainly be called good representations of their genres, 3 of them have yet to stand the real test of time and 'Thriller' beat out a long list of far better-reviewed albums throughout history.

 

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21 July 2013
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If we're being fair, then four Beatles albums in the top 10 is sheer baby boomer indulgence.  Let's grant for a moment that Rolling Stone should stick to their area (popular rock culture).  Are You Experienced and Nevermind should have been in the top 10, simply by virtue of cultural impact.  

Speaking of Never Mind the Bullocks, I find it revealing that Rolling Stone manages to recognize Black Flag (white) and even Sonic Youth (white), but the Bad Brains (the all-black band that basically invented hardcore) doesn't make the list?  Credibility lost.  

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21 July 2013
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Perhaps we can both agree that *any* attempt to create a definitive list of the "best" *anything* is bound to be fraught with omissions and bias.  No matter how well-researched and objective any list is, there will always be legitimate arguments that can be made about what was included and left off.

 

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21 July 2013
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And if you want your brain to explode, refer to this list:  http://www.thetoptens.com/albums/

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21 July 2013
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The omission of "It's All Too Much" only reinforces my belief that it's the group's most all-time criminally underrated song.  ahdn_george_05  Glad to see "Long, Long, Long," "All I've Got to Do" and "Two of Us" made it, though.

22 July 2013
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SatanHimself said
And if you want your brain to explode, refer to this list:  http://www.thetoptens.com/albums/

 

Hmm I think that's a pretty good list. Except for the last 2 albums. That was quite random.

 

Tbh, I never understood why Thriller makes #1 on so many Best Album lists. Is it really THAT brilliant and wonderful?

22 July 2013
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They probably considered the number of copies an album sold.

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22 July 2013
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Linde said

Tbh, I never understood why Thriller makes #1 on so many Best Album lists. Is it really THAT brilliant and wonderful?

 

It's a very good album, and was a groundbreaking pop record.  But much in the same way that people now suggest that the soundtrack to "The Bodyguard" is some amazing work of art, it's popularity has been inflated by MJ's death.

"Double Fantasy" still rides that wave, if you think about it. 

 

 

 

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22 July 2013
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I've always thought Thriller was a fantastic set of videos, but bar two or three tracks, musically was overrated. Take away the videos and the advent of MTV, would it have gained the attention it did? Myself, I doubt it.

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22 July 2013
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After Rolling Stone put the terrorist who carried out the Boston Marathon masacre on their cover this past week, I think we should all boycott Rolling Stone anyway!!! Can't imagine what they were thinking! (Won't mention the guy's name as I won't mention John's murderer ever again!)

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22 July 2013
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mccartneyalarm said
After Rolling Stone put the terrorist who carried out the Boston Marathon masacre on their cover this past week, I think we should all boycott Rolling Stone anyway!!! Can't imagine what they were thinking! (Won't mention the guy's name as I won't mention John's murderer ever again!)

I was thinking that very thing when I first started reading this thread. Why do we need to put killers' faces on magazine covers? Are sales of RS really that bad?

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26 July 2013
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Apparently. 

Tbh, I can't even remember the guy's name.

Also, I can't imagine someone thinking ''Hey let's put Boston Marathon Terrorist Guy on the cover. Now that'll look fresh and cool'' and the whole staff agreeing with him? Dafuq. Like, whyyyy? Ran out of musicians?

26 July 2013
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SatanHimself said

Linde said

Tbh, I never understood why Thriller makes #1 on so many Best Album lists. Is it really THAT brilliant and wonderful?

 

It's a very good album, and was a groundbreaking pop record.  But much in the same way that people now suggest that the soundtrack to "The Bodyguard" is some amazing work of art, it's popularity has been inflated by MJ's death.

"Double Fantasy" still rides that wave, if you think about it. 

But Thriller's place in pop history was cemented well before MJ's death. I've had a copy since the album came out, and I was instantly impressed by the fact that, unlike most pop albums at the time, it had no filler songs. It's still one of the few I can listen to from beginning to end without skipping.

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26 July 2013
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Linde said
Apparently. 

Tbh, I can't even remember the guy's name.

Also, I can't imagine someone thinking ''Hey let's put Boston Marathon Terrorist Guy on the cover. Now that'll look fresh and cool'' and the whole staff agreeing with him? Dafuq. Like, whyyyy? Ran out of musicians?

I'm not going to get into the debate on that cover specifically, but I think people do need to keep in mind that RS has a history of journalism and political coverage that extends beyond music, so it's not out of place in the context of its history.

parlance

 

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27 July 2013
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So...anyway...back to the Beatles list. It's just "meh" if you ask me, some of the reasons being they put Within You Without You at 96, Rain at 88, Hey Bulldog at 81, Dear Prudence at 63, Helter Skelter at 52, etc...oh well, I guess a lot of it is a matter of opinion. I do agree with what they chose for #1, though.

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27 July 2013
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Back on topic!

"Within You Without You", while definitely an interesting song, is no reason to leave "Lovely Rita" off the list.

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7 August 2013
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I might have missed it, but I'm pretty sure "Eight Days A Week" was not on that list! I also wished they had put in "Another Girl" (just one of my own personal favorites) And "Lovely Rita" also deserved a spot on there. I still think "Yesterday" is the most overrated Beatles song, and I'm not a huge fan of "Mother Nature's Son". And "Got To Get You Into My Life" probably shouldn't have been over great songs like "If I Needed Someone" or "Helter Skelter". But then again, this is all just my opinion.a-hard-days-night-george-3

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