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7.14pm
13 November 2011
OfflineCan anyone else hear the quick cut? I'm sure everyone already new this, but it's interesting when you first hear this. If you don't know what I'm talking about, listen to the second chorus after "Living is easy with eyes closed" at "Let me take you down." In between the words "Cause I'm" and "going to," it goes from take 7 to take 26. What are your thoughts on this?
Off topic question: Where are takes 9 through 24?
9.30pm
1 May 2011
OfflineTakes 9 – 24 are in the archives, under heavily locked and secured doors probably quadruple electronic bolts with multipule cameras monitoring them and incredibly sensitive alarms reaching to around 300 police stations and security services around the universe.
I'd be interested to know how takes 1 – 7, 25 & 26 got out (the non-anthology ones)? And could the nice people who did access them and get them out to the bootlegers please do so again with other sessions, i dont care what songs. Thank you.
Its strange with the edits. You can miss them for years but as soon as they're discovered you cant not hear them, they are so noticable. For example the nasty word in Hey Jude, its so darn blatant but other folks strain to hear it.
5.33am
13 November 2011
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13 November 2011
Offline12.43pm
1 May 2011
OfflineThere are edits in Let It Be certainly the Spector mix has a chorus at the end repeated so it may be that.
Most bands are protective of their music, compared to many other acts we have a wealth of Beatle material, especially considering they started in 1957. To have a recording (be it very poor quality) of John playing on stage the day he met Paul is incredible.
Apple are very protective of how The Beatles are seen and presented to the public, maintaining their image, so everything put out is done so not to dampen it. Which is one reason why there is no Let It Be dvd.
9.41pm
7 November 2010
Offlinemeanmistermustard said
Its strange with the edits. You can miss them for years but as soon as they're discovered you cant not hear them, they are so noticable. For example the nasty word in Hey Jude, its so darn blatant but other folks strain to hear it.
I was the same with Working Class Hero, how the third verse is different to the rest of the song. (Not sure of which takes or whatever, just something that I noticed one day and now I can't not hear it.)
"When I cannot sing my heart, I can only speak my mind."
10.36pm
1 May 2011
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1 December 2009
Offlinekelicopter said
meanmistermustard saidIts strange with the edits. You can miss them for years but as soon as they're discovered you cant not hear them, they are so noticable. For example the nasty word in Hey Jude, its so darn blatant but other folks strain to hear it.
I was the same with Working Class Hero, how the third verse is different to the rest of the song. (Not sure of which takes or whatever, just something that I noticed one day and now I can't not hear it.)
Yeah, THAT'S a really sloppy edit of two takes that's annoyed me for years! It's not a straight edit, more of a crossfade, and somehow the ambient sound of the guitar and room itself seems to change. I guess it's hard to get the exact sound from different takes when the recording is just a fairly straight guitar-and-voice direct into a mic.
11.10am
26 March 2012
Offline11.47am
1 May 2011
OfflineTrevor Kraus said
Meanmistermustard: Could you direct to me the video of John on the day he met Paul? I've never seen it.
There is no video footage of the day John met Paul only audio, and not in great quality unsuprisingly. Tons of pics tho.
3.17pm
7 November 2010
Offlinevonbontee said
kelicopter said
meanmistermustard saidIts strange with the edits. You can miss them for years but as soon as they're discovered you cant not hear them, they are so noticable. For example the nasty word in Hey Jude, its so darn blatant but other folks strain to hear it.
I was the same with Working Class Hero, how the third verse is different to the rest of the song. (Not sure of which takes or whatever, just something that I noticed one day and now I can't not hear it.)
Yeah, THAT'S a really sloppy edit of two takes that's annoyed me for years! It's not a straight edit, more of a crossfade, and somehow the ambient sound of the guitar and room itself seems to change. I guess it's hard to get the exact sound from different takes when the recording is just a fairly straight guitar-and-voice direct into a mic.
Yesss that describes it perfectly, so much so that it sounds slightly out of key I think.
"When I cannot sing my heart, I can only speak my mind."
3.22pm
18 January 2011
OfflineBen Ramon said
The Strawberry said
What about that different piano chord in the last verse of Let It Be? Is that a mistake?I never noticed that, when does that occur?
It's in the last verse, exactly where Paul sings "Mother Mary". Paul plays something different on the piano. This happened in take 27a (recorded on the last day of the sessions), the one which was used for both the album and single version (you can hear it better in the single version, by the way, because the piano is louder). Nevertheless, it is not certain if it was a mistake or played intentionally. I assume it didn't appear on any other take. The people who made Let It Be Naked clearly thought of it as a mistake, or didn't like how it sounds, because they edited that line in from another take.
On the Wikipedia page of Let It Be Naked, it says
For the title track, the original take 27a was used for the bulk of the song, but two edit pieces were flown in from take 27b (the version seen and heard in the Let It Be film): namely, the guitar solo and a brief section near the end (the final "Mother Mary comes to me" bar) to fix an errant piano chord that was present on the album/single versions.
whereas on the page of the Let It Be song, it says
Still another version of the song appeared on the Let It Be… Naked album in 2003. This version has a standard A minor chord in the piano at the first beat of measure two in the last verse (on the lyric "mother"); other versions have a more complex harmonisation.
I doubt that it was unintended. The take was an instrumental one, which means that they played it without Paul singing, probably for the first time in that sessions. This way, Paul could give all his attention to the piano playing, so it's unlikely he would make a mistake, even more after having played the song a million times during the sessions. Besides I think it sounds allright.
10.46pm
13 November 2011
Offline1.47pm
It's in the last verse, exactly where Paul sings "Mother Mary". Paul plays something different on the piano. This happened in take 27a (recorded on the last day of the sessions), the one jade which was used for both the album and single version (you can hear it better in the single version, by the way, because the piano is louder). Nevertheless, it is not certain if it was a mistake or played intentionally. I assume it didn't appear on any other take. The people who made Let It Be Naked clearly thought of it as a mistake, or didn't like how it sounds, because they edited that line in from another take.
On the Wikipedia page of Let It Be Naked, it says
5.03pm
12 March 2010
Offlinepnance26 said
A good insight into the edits is Geoff Emerick's book "Here, There and Everywhere"… he would know. He was the engineer on most of the tracks.While on the subject of this book, anyone else read it? I would be curious as to your reaction if you have and would like to have a discussion of it.
Yeah, that book has been subject of discussions quite often.
Having not read it myself I can't give personal comments.
From what I hear it contains a lot of bs.
He obviously was at least as stoned as the Beatles during most of the sessions so he couldn't remember enough stuff to write his book, so he called some friends and collected stories…
Other stuff is obviously just made up…
Take this one to the "Beatles books" section to get more and better in depth information.
5.06pm
12 March 2010
OfflineNepomuceno said
I doubt that it was unintended. The take was an instrumental one, which means that they played it without Paul singing, probably for the first time in that sessions. This way, Paul could give all his attention to the piano playing, so it's unlikely he would make a mistake, even more after having played the song a million times during the sessions. Besides I think it sounds allright.
I doubt it was intended excactly like that. I guess he just messed it up or tried something – and liked the result and told them to keep it.
For me it's one of the highlights of the song, because it's unexpected and interesting.
Typical Beatles attitude, be always open for a cool mistake on the track.
There are endless examples of messy bass lines from Paul where not every note is perfect – but obviously they liked the feeling so the mistakes where kept.
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