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Songs without actual choruses
9 April 2011
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paulsbass said:

Sorry, but I don't completely get your original intention - and the other thing is more fun! ;-)

What I mean is that Paul makes little “doot” noises rather than actual words for the chorus in those songs (Mother Nature’s Son and Rocky Raccoon).

 

 

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Blue Nicey said:

You guys are on a roll! What I actually meant by the topic was songs without *lyrics* in the chorus, in which case I think only the two I mentioned qualify. (Not gonna lie, I listened to the whole catalogue today to see if there were more … ) Well, actually, I think Hey Jude also qualifies. But I didn’t even realize that they actually had so many songs without true choruses. Those Beatles, slipping a fast one by us after so many listens!

I’m going to do some more thorough listening tomorrow/this weekend and see if I can come up with any others.

Thanks for throwing yourself on that grenade for us. It must have been tough.neil-aspinall

No matter what your original intention for the thread was, it's still a fun one! Thanks for starting it.mal-evans

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9 April 2011
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Ph.D. said:

I thought it said songs with actual choruses....I'm stupid

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9 April 2011
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Holy cow paulsbass! 

Exactly how much free time have you had lately? 

There are some of those that I might count as a "refrain" instead of a "chorus" because of how short they are. But still... 

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10 April 2011
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Like "No no no, Not A Second Time." 

My definition of "refrain" is something at the end of each verse that is repeated. My definition of "chorus" is something separate from the verse itself. A chorus is longer than a refrain. 

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11 April 2011
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Here's my list of Beatles songs with choruses:

I Saw Her Standing There
Chains
Boys
Ask Me Why
Please Please Me
Baby It's You
A Taste Of Honey
There's A Place
Twist And Shout

It Won't Be Long
All I've Got To Do
All My Loving
Don't Bother Me
Little Child
Please Mister Postman
Roll Over Beethoven
Hold Me Tight
I Wanna Be Your Man
Devil In Her Heart
Money (That's What I Want)

A Hard Day's Night
I Should Have Known Better
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
Tell Me Why
Can't Buy Me Love
Any Time At All
When I Get Home

No Reply
I'm A Loser
Baby's In Black
Rock And Roll Music
Eight Days A Week
Honey Don't
Every Little Thing
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby

Help!
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Another Girl
You're Going To Lose That Girl
Ticket To Ride
It's Only Love
Tell Me What You See
I've Just Seen A Face
Dizzy Miss Lizzy

Drive My Car
Nowhere Man
Think For Yourself
The Word
Michelle
What Goes On
Girl
Run For Your Life

Taxman
Eleanor Rigby
Here, There And Everywhere
Yellow Submarine
Good Day Sunshine
For No One
Doctor Robert
Got To Get You Into My Life

With A Little Help From My Friends
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Getting Better
Fixing A Hole
She's Leaving Home

Back In The USSR
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
Don't Pass Me By
Julia
Birthday
Helter Skelter
Cry Baby Cry

Come Together
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Here Comes The Sun

Two Of Us
Dig A Pony
I Me Mine
Let It Be
Get Back

Magical Mystery Tour
The Fool On The Hill
Blue Jay Way
Your Mother Should Know
I Am The Walrus
Hello, Goodbye
Strawberry Fields Forever
Penny Lane
Baby You're A Rich Man
All You Need Is Love

She Loves You
I Want To Hold Your Hand
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand
Sie Liebt Dich
I Call Your Name
Slow Down
Matchbox
I'm Down
Day Tripper
Rain
Revolution
Don't Let Me Down
The Ballad Of John And Yoko

I've generally avoided two-line 'choruses' such as "And all I've got to do/Is Thank You Girl, Thank You Girl" - The Beatles did this quite a lot, appending a little refrain onto the end of a verse. I left in I Saw Her Standing There, though. Inconsistent? Yep.

Some are grey areas (is "I'm so glad that she's my little girl" in I Feel Fine a middle section or chorus?)

Sometimes they had a chorus-like section that had different lyrics each time "Now I'm stepping out this Old Brown Shoe"/"For your sweet top lip I'm in the queue"), which would have definitely been a chorus had they used the same words.

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11 April 2011
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The more I think about, the more I conclude that relatively few Beatles tracks have actual choruses, as I would define them - as opposed to reiterations of the title, ("I want to hold your ha-a-a-a-nd/I Want To Hold Your Hand")  or one-or-two line bits that function more as part of the verse ("I don't care too much for money/Money can't buy me love"). And if the part that feels like a chorus uses different words throughout like in "Hard Day's Night", that doesn't count either. There are many songs on Joe's list that don't have what I would call a chorus, but that's just my personal limited interpretation.

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11 April 2011
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Hey, Welcome Back Von!!!!!

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11 April 2011
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George really doesn't like to write choruses minus the three exceptions in Joe's comment.

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11 April 2011
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Pah, I wrote a long reply but my browser decided to be dodgy and I think it got lost. Anyway, I can't be bothered to go through each one again, but I was wrong about I Should Have Known Better and Nowhere Man. Most of the others are debatable, but I don't think where where a couple of lines from the verses get repeated (Octopus's Garden/One After 909) that really counts as a chorus. It's just a basic blues technique.

I'll Be Back - no chorus whatsoever. Same with What You're Doing.

Totally forgot about Across The Universe.

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11 April 2011
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paulsbass said:

 

If you allow I'd like to peacefully disagree on some choices (I won't comment on the covers).

 

 

That's funny, paulsbass. Nice work on the list once again. Whether all agree or not, you still put a lot of work into it.

On an unrelated note and a quick derial, you mentioned above "the boys are finally sleeping". How old are your kids?  

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11 April 2011
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paulsbass said:

Things We Said Today – Definitely HAS a chorus! I think it doesn't matter if some words change.

 

 

 

 

I know this is only one example, but what part of Things We Said Today would you consider the chorus? "Someday when I'm lonely" or "Me, I'm just the lucky kind"?

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11 April 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Spooky. I'm listening to the Beatles in random mode, and I was listening to that part when I saw your post. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

 

edit  : Wait a minute, did you say singing and dancing on the street??? What did you play?

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11 April 2011
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paulsbass said:

I play the guitar (plus tamburine with my right foot) and sing - mostly classic Beatles, Cat Stevens, John Denver, Simon and Garfunkel, and some new stuff by Milow, JAmes Blunt etc. Around 200 songs by heart!

Nu-uh, really?! You sound way too cool to be a parent! :)

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11 April 2011
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Are you trying to be the next Paul McCartney? 

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12 April 2011
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paulsbass said:

And - believe me - I'm one of the least-cool persons in the world! I'm a NICE guy who frowns upon people smoking next to him and driving their bikes the wrong way in the street, a veggie, almost no alcohol - TOTALLY unusable for a Rock'n'Roll career...

Whatever! That stuff is cool in my book. And Paul’s a vegetarian.

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12 April 2011
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Well Paulsbass you're way more cool (or cooler?) than many of my friends. a-hard-days-night-paul-5

 

Ok now... stay-on-topic

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