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Something on Good Evening, New York City
20 September 2011
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kelicopter
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Okay, before Paul performs Something on Good Evening, New York City, he says:

I went round to his house one day, and I said, you know, "I've been messing around on the ukulele" and I played him this song, that I''m gonna do for you now. I'm not sure he was very impressed but, I thought it was okay.

I've just never understood what he meant by this, because to me it sounds like he's trying to take credit for George's song. Unless I'm being stupid and there's actually a much nicer explanation. Any thoughts?

a-hard-days-night-george-10

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21 September 2011
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Sarcasm. They were very witty back in the day.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
21 September 2011
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Or it could be after the song after 1969 and Paul went to see George when they were on friendly terms and played him a version of Something. Maybe that was another cause of disharmony between them, George thinking Paul was mocking him.

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21 September 2011
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I heard Paul say something similar at Madison Square Garden on a prior tour, and I had the same reaction: "wait – is he saying that he, Paul, wrote the song?"

I figured I didn't quite hear it right.

In his "autobiography"  I don't recall Paul imply that he wrote "Something"

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21 September 2011
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No, Paul is saying he used to go to George's house AFTER the Beatles split, in the 90s or so, and one night after dinner, he played him the song on his ukulele because he knows how much George loved the ukulele. He plays it this way on the Concert for George dvd, as well. Why must people always believe Paul has the worst motives? It is meant as a tribute, and I think it is a fitting one.

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21 September 2011
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Yeah I did hope Paul meant he played it on the ukulele for him years later, and George sarcastically said he didn't like it.

It's not that I automatically assumed that as it was Paul, he must have been trying to steal the credit; I think it's just badly worded. I agree that it's a fitting tribute. It's a beautiful version of the song, especially at the Concert For George.

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21 September 2011
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I think he reworded it for the concert this year, to something like:
You know, I've always loved the ukelele. John's mumplayed the uke, and I still love it. One day, when I round at George's, I told him I learn one of his songs on the uke. I think he was impressed.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
22 September 2011
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paulsbass said:

Kedame, some day we'll have to meet! You almost always perfectly express my own thoughts!

How can anyone assume something like "Paul trying to steal the credit"?

It was obviously meant like you said: "Hey, listen to this version of YOUR SONG on the ukulele, how do you like it?" "Yeah, it's ok…"

Of course George wouldn't be too impressed by an "upbeat" version of his greatest love song on the tiny ukulele.

Just some friendly bickering, nothing more.

I love the "original" version from the "Concert for George" most. That moment where the band sets in and Clapton starts the solo – WOW!!!

Next to meeting Paul himself, meeting another Paul fan would be my dream come true, paulsbass! Seriously though, even if Paul were vindictive enough to claim credit for "Something" (which he isn't…why would he need to?), I don't think he would be stupid enough to try, considering it is so well-documented that George wrote it…and even rejected Paul's original bass line.

Lordy, I think I will end up defending Paul until the day I die.

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22 September 2011
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Oh my god, this is insipid. Paul (in fiftythousand freaking places) has said he was surprised and impressed by GEORGE'S great song. The only person to get the credit wrong (whether intentionally or not) was Frank Sinatra – not Paul. Oh, and miss Kedame & Monsieur Paulsbass: I don't think I've ever seen somepeople who are so freaking similar.

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22 September 2011
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Ok when I first heard that, I assume that Paul was playing George his song in the ukelele. Nothing wrong on that. I think Paul's version is just awesome.

 

but as we say in Mexico, George Harrison is George Harrison. Nuff said. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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22 September 2011
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In Kelicopter's defense (what's a kelicopter by the way? A fancy helicopter?), for all the reasons listed above, I don't think anyone's accusing Paul of taking credit for George's song.

The point is that when Paul introduces the song in concert, and you're not expecting it, nor do you have time to sit back and consider the various possible meanings, you COULD interpret his sentence as meaning he wrote the song…

I had the same initial reaction as Kelicopter.

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22 September 2011
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"Into the Sky with Diamonds" said:

(what's a kelicopter by the way? A fancy helicopter?)

(Firstly, my name is Kelly, a friend came up with the nickname a few years ago and it sort of stuck.)

 

Secondly, let me just clarify that I too would defend Paul in a heartbeat. I was not accusing Paul of stealing the credit because I automatically thought "Paul's a bad person, that sounds like something he'd do." He says he went round to George's house one day; whether that is before or after 1969 isn't clear. I just misheard it. I was 99% certain that I had made a mistake and just wanted you guys to explain to me what he actually meant. That's all!

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22 September 2011
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Well, Kelly, it's a bit like "Drive My Car"!

You have a great name for a helicopter – now you just need to go out and get it!

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When Paul said, "I'm not sure he was very impressed but, I thought it was okay", I assumed that Paul was being cheekily self-deprecating as if to say, "George may not have been very impressed with my skills on the ukulele".

I thought it was completely harmless.a-hard-days-night-george-4

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