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...ontherun said

Funny Paper said

No, the challenge is "any musician" not just the Beatles; and it has to be a reference in one song on an album to another song on the same album.

"Tommy" anyone?

 

Well, being in the genre of a "rock opera" it would be strange for the different songs NOT to reference each other.

]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:19:45 +0000 ...ontherun on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60901 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60901

Funny Paper said

No, the challenge is "any musician" not just the Beatles; and it has to be a reference in one song on an album to another song on the same album.

"Tommy" anyone?

]]> Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:17:04 +0000 meanmistermustard on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60678 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60678 I think that line has been discussed here before, not that i know which thread. Personally ive always thought it was a dig at how many hours they spent recording it, a sardonic comment.

]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:09:36 +0000 IMDeWalrus on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60675 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60675 Yeah, I've always figured George was venting a little frustration over having to do and re-do "ObLaDi, ObLaDa" over and over again with that line... then again, it may have simply been a placeholder line (kind of like "attracts me like a cauliflower" in "Something") which George decided he liked and kept in the final recording.   I don't know that George ever commented about it himself.

]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:31:38 +0000 Ben Ramon on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60673 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60673 Paul had the band run through Ob-La-Di to the point of sickness, right? In light of that, it seems pretty clear to me that George was taking a minor swipe at the tribulations of practicing such a chocolatey song so many times- "what is sweet now, turns so sour."

And to come to Funny Paper's original challenge, there must be countless albums which reference the same song: any album with any kind of reprise or recurring musical or lyrical theme would be doing so. If you knew where to look, you could list hundreds. Although the instance in Savoy Truffle is ...]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 13:43:43 +0000 Funny Paper on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60670 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60670

robert said
I believe I may be the "effusser" from the Savoy Truffle comment and if so, then my point was really this. Well,

first it's not bringing back a musical theme back from one song into another song, such as the recurrent themes referenced in Band on the Run, or the off-the cuff ad-lib moments on All You Need Is Love ending, or side two of Abbey Road, but George referencing as a part of the official lyric a song on the very same album: "We all know Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" - which of course we didn't really know (at ...]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:50:15 +0000 meanmistermustard on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60655 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60655 Well i get a big fat F grade for not answering the actual question. Need to read the paper properly next time.

 

I have a feeling that Queen may have made references to other songs on the same lp however i cant think which songs or albums off the top of my head. More of that Jazz on their '78 Jazz album has actual parts of the other songs on the album towards the end but thats not whats really the same thing.

Wait Bicycle Race ("Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today") and to a different aspect Fat Bottomed Girls ("Get on your bikes and ride") (its not a direct title but ...]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:34:27 +0000 BluemeanAl on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60646 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60646 I'm not coming up with many such in-album self-references, but the Who did make the "Reign O'er Me" reference at least a couple of times through Quadrophenia.  As this was a "rock opera," I guess that "Reign" was a recurring theme and therefore may not officially count here. 

And of course, the Beatles dropped that second bit of "You Never Give Me Your Money" into "Carry that Weight."

Both of which are decidedly different from George's lyrical reference.

]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:51:25 +0000 robert on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60644 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60644 I believe I may be the "effusser" from the Savoy Truffle comment and if so, then my point was really this. Well,

first it's not bringing back a musical theme back from one song into another song, such as the recurrent themes referenced in Band on the Run, or the off-the cuff ad-lib moments on All You Need Is Love ending, or side two of Abbey Road, but George referencing as a part of the official lyric a song on the very same album: "We all know Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" - which of course we didn't really know (at least know well) ...]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:37:36 +0000 Funny Paper on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60639 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60639 No, the challenge is "any musician" not just the Beatles; and it has to be a reference in one song on an album to another song on the same album.

]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:31:09 +0000 meanmistermustard on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60629 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60629 Well John referred to a handful of songs in Glass Onion (eg Fool on the Hill, Fixing a Hole, Lucy In The Sky) on The White Album so there's another one. And if you want to be incredibly anal over it you can hear John refer to Tell Me Why on What Goes On ("i've already told you why") and Ringo calls out "I Feel Fine" when singing Honey Don't on Beatles For Sale which is almost certainly a reference to the song I Feel Fine, there may even be a few others.

 

Just remembered She Loves You and Yesterday are referred to in ...]]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:08:32 +0000 Zig on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60625 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60625 Perhaps they meant on a Beatles album? a-hard-days-night-ringo-7

Just guessing.a-hard-days-night-ringo-4

]]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:14:25 +0000 Funny Paper on Savoy Truffle referencing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60615 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/savoy-truffle-referencing-ob-la-di-ob-la-da/#p60615 In the comments section to the song info on "Savoy Truffle" in the Songs section up top (not the forum), someone effused that George's mention of "Ob-La-Di" is the only time any musician has ever referenced another song on the same album.

 

However, Paul did that in his Band on the Run album -- three times!

 

1.  "Helen Wheels", the lyrics reference the song "Band on the Run":  "and Sailor Sam, he came a burning down, but he never will be found"

 

2.  "1985" also references "Band on the Run" by simply breaking into the chorus at the very end then fading out.

 

3.  ...]]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:20:29 +0000