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Over Too Soon?
6 October 2013
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I've been on a real kick with Little Wing by Hendrix (I know, blasphemy) and it got me thinking how some songs are much too short in length.  I really wish that one could go on for a minute or two longer with another verse and chorus. Are there any Beatley songs that you feel are prematurely ended?  Conversely are there songs which you feel go on for too long?

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6 October 2013
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"Hey Jude" is too long for me, as I have noted in other threads - I find those endless 'nana na na's get boring after about a minute.

"Norwegian Wood" is too short, it is perfect as is of course, but makes me wish there was more.

7 October 2013
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trcanberra said
"Hey Jude" is too long for me, as I have noted in other threads - I find those endless 'nana na na's get boring after about a minute.

"Norwegian Wood" is too short, it is perfect as is of course, but makes me wish there was more.

Agree on "Norwegian Wood".

Hey Jude had to be that long because Paul foresaw that he would be performing it forever and he knew he had to have enough time for just the ladies to sing it, just the men, etc.

"A Day In The Life" could use another aaahhhhhh section *my turn to duck*

7 October 2013
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Too short: "Polythene Pam"

Too long: "Blue Jay Way"

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7 October 2013
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trcanberra said
"Hey Jude" is too long for me, as I have noted in other threads - I find those endless 'nana na na's get boring after about a minute.

"Norwegian Wood" is too short, it is perfect as is of course, but makes me wish there was more.

I think "Hey Jude" was done in the spirit of "We've never had a song quite like this before where we have a long repeated crowd sing-along song" -- plus you need that repetition to give space for Paul to do his screaming on top of it.

As for "Norwegian Wood", John could have (should have) written a "sequel" -- Here's my idea for it -- sing along to the same melody and structure:

 

Norwegian Wood

Ten Years Later

Ten years have slipped by

since that bird flew

out of my mind...

When minding myself

out of the blue

she came from behind...

She said "It's been so long, how have you been doing, and wasn't it 'John'...?"

I said "Yes it was, in another life, but now I've moved on..."

We might have had tea

and talked about

all we had done,

If in the meanwhile

there hadn’t shone

a break in the sun.

[instrumental break]

She looked at the sky and was glad that the weather had turned…

And all of a sudden we realized that bridge had been burned…

So, we parted ways, without a word, like random birds…

I put out a fire, isn’t it good, Norwegian Wood.

 

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7 October 2013
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Funny Paper said

trcanberra said
"Hey Jude" is too long for me, as I have noted in other threads - I find those endless 'nana na na's get boring after about a minute.

"Norwegian Wood" is too short, it is perfect as is of course, but makes me wish there was more.

I think "Hey Jude" was done in the spirit of "We've never had a song quite like this before where we have a long repeated crowd sing-along song" -- plus you need that repetition to give space for Paul to do his screaming on top of it.

As for "Norwegian Wood", John could have (should have) written a "sequel" -- Here's my idea for it -- sing along to the same melody and structure:

 

Norwegian Wood

Ten Years Later

Ten years have slipped by

since that bird flew

out of my mind...

When minding myself

out of the blue

she came from behind...

She said "It's been so long, how have you been doing, and wasn't it 'John'...?"

I said "Yes it was, in another life, but now I've moved on..."

We might have had tea

and talked about

all we had done,

If in the meanwhile

there hadn’t shone

a break in the sun.

[instrumental break]

She looked at the sky and was glad that the weather had turned…

And all of a sudden we realized that bridge had been burned…

So, we parted ways, without a word, like random birds…

I put out a fire, isn’t it good, Norwegian Wood.

 

Can't see John as a guy who would write "sequel" songs (although he once said "Woman" was a grown-up sequel of sorts to "Girl"), but that's a pretty good tune you wrote there. I'm imagining that song set to the hazy Anthology 2 mix (which I like more than the final musical mix).

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7 October 2013
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Yeah, good job, Milly, you're a good boy. 

 

Sometimes i I feel like Hey Jude is too long, but then other times it's not long enough. 

I think Julia is too short. 

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7 October 2013
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Sometimes i I feel like Hey Jude is too long, but then other times it's not long enough. 

 

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

Sometimes I turn off Hey Jude because its too long, but other times its just not long enough. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

 

Pretty good lyrics Funny Paper 

7 October 2013
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The Beatles song that is over too soon for me is the mesmerizing minute-long snippet following "Cry Baby Cry, known as "Can You Take Me Back." Paul obviously wants to go back to, uh... somewhere, but we never find out the location. It must be very nice there, based on the longing in Paul's plaintive voice, and it surely makes me the listener also want to go there. Brother, take me, too! And another reason why the song fragment is over too soon, is because it never progresses beyond the one chord. It's an interesting chord, for sure, but if it had gone on longer, McCartney might have introduced another chord, just as interesting as the first one. Yes, it was all... over too soon!

7 October 2013
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7 October 2013
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Bungalow Bob said
The Beatles song that is over too soon for me is the mesmerizing minute-long snippet following "Cry Baby Cry, known as "Can You Take Me Back." Paul obviously wants to go back to, uh... somewhere, but we never find out the location. It must be very nice there, based on the longing in Paul's plaintive voice, and it surely makes me the listener also want to go there. Brother, take me, too! And another reason why the song fragment is over too soon, is because it never progresses beyond the one chord. It's an interesting chord, for sure, but if it had gone on longer, McCartney might have introduced another chord, just as interesting as the first one. Yes, it was all... over too soon!

You mean this...?

Of course, on too long, had Hey Jude been released a decade or so later, the 7-inch single would have been edited down to maybe a minute or so of the "na-na's", and the full-length would have been the 12-inch version.

 

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7 October 2013
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mja6758 said

Bungalow Bob said
The Beatles song that is over too soon for me is the mesmerizing minute-long snippet following "Cry Baby Cry, known as "Can You Take Me Back." Paul obviously wants to go back to, uh... somewhere, but we never find out the location. It must be very nice there, based on the longing in Paul's plaintive voice, and it surely makes me the listener also want to go there. Brother, take me, too! And another reason why the song fragment is over too soon, is because it never progresses beyond the one chord. It's an interesting chord, for sure, but if it had gone on longer, McCartney might have introduced another chord, just as interesting as the first one. Yes, it was all... over too soon!

You mean this...?

Thans for posting this video, mja6758. I had never heard this outtake before. Unfortunately, it appears that Paul was musically stuck on this one intriguing chord, and the very very vague lyrical idea of being taken back to someplace that must have been quite nice. It's odd that his mighty inspirational muse would have totally abandoned him on this tasty nascent riff. So this stands out as one of those rare recorded Beatles artifacts that never went any further. That's too bad that it was "over too soon." I would have liked to have seen this developed. Maybe Paul will read this here on the "Beatle Bible," and be reminded to revisit the uncompleted tune, and it will appear on a future album. :)
 

8 October 2013
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wetsroosa said
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Can't see John as a guy who would write "sequel" songs (although he once said "Woman" was a grown-up sequel of sorts to "Girl"), but that's a pretty good tune you wrote there. I'm imagining that song set to the hazy Anthology 2 mix (which I like more than the final musical mix).

Interesting. As you know, I don't know the solo careers of John, Ringo, and George much at all. Your post is the first time I saw that John did a song called "Woman", and wouldn't you know, 80s on 8 on XM radio played the song while I was driving to work this morning. I liked it.

8 October 2013
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wetsroosa said
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Can't see John as a guy who would write "sequel" songs (although he once said "Woman" was a grown-up sequel of sorts to "Girl"), but that's a pretty good tune you wrote there. I'm imagining that song set to the hazy Anthology 2 mix (which I like more than the final musical mix).

Interesting. As you know, I don't know the solo careers of John, Ringo, and George much at all. Your post is the first time I saw that John did a song called "Woman", and wouldn't you know, 80s on 8 on XM radio played the song while I was driving to work this morning. I liked it.

"Woman" is my wife's favorite song from any of the Beatles, together or solo. 

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wetsroosa said

cbatcu said

wetsroosa said
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Can't see John as a guy who would write "sequel" songs (although he once said "Woman" was a grown-up sequel of sorts to "Girl"), but that's a pretty good tune you wrote there. I'm imagining that song set to the hazy Anthology 2 mix (which I like more than the final musical mix).

Interesting. As you know, I don't know the solo careers of John, Ringo, and George much at all. Your post is the first time I saw that John did a song called "Woman", and wouldn't you know, 80s on 8 on XM radio played the song while I was driving to work this morning. I liked it.

"Woman" is my wife's favorite song from any of the Beatles, together or solo. 

It makes me want to start collecting John's solo stuff now. I've already told my mother-in-law that I want cds for Christmas. She said that was fine. She usually spends a chunk of change on me at Christmas so perhaps I can really load up my arsenal. I'll throw a George and Ringo on the list too.

 

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I forgot a couple of songs over too soon

Too Soon: Ask Me Why, Girl, Michelle

Too long: I Want You (She's So Heavy) Revolution 9, Come Together

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8 October 2013
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After hearing Revolution Take 20, I'd like an extended version of Tomorrow Never Knows that breaks into full on music concrete.

I think You Know My Name could stand to be a few minutes shorter and be better for it.

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8 October 2013
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batcu said

wetsroosa said

cbatcu said

wetsroosa said
[snip]
Can't see John as a guy who would write "sequel" songs (although he once said "Woman" was a grown-up sequel of sorts to "Girl"), but that's a pretty good tune you wrote there. I'm imagining that song set to the hazy Anthology 2 mix (which I like more than the final musical mix).

Interesting. As you know, I don't know the solo careers of John, Ringo, and George much at all. Your post is the first time I saw that John did a song called "Woman", and wouldn't you know, 80s on 8 on XM radio played the song while I was driving to work this morning. I liked it.

"Woman" is my wife's favorite song from any of the Beatles, together or solo. 

It makes me want to start collecting John's solo stuff now. I've already told my mother-in-law that I want cds for Christmas. She said that was fine. She usually spends a chunk of change on me at Christmas so perhaps I can really load up my arsenal. I'll throw a George and Ringo on the list too.

 

 

Your best bet might be a Lennon Greatest Hits CD (there's a few). That's a cliché way to introduce an artist to somebody, but it gives you a good overview of John's solo career. (Same could be said for George and Ringo.) If that whets your appetite, your next best bet for solo John would probably be either Imagine or John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band. For George, if you or your mother-in-law can find them, Thirty Three and 1/3 and George Harrison are wonderful albums, and All Things Must Pass is his most iconic solo album, though not my personal favorite. For Ringo... you're not missing much outside of any greatest hits compilations of his, though if you love old-school country music, Ringo has a great album in that genre called Beaucoups of Blues.

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Great job, Funny Paper~!! That was excellent :)

I find many of their early songs too short.  I mean, lots of them come in under 2 minutes long. 

I think with Hey Jude (or Hey Trud, like it should have been named a-hard-days-night-george-10 ), you have to be in the mood for it.  Sometimes, I find it too long and have to hit the next button.  Other times, I'm right into it and sing it out till the very end.  Of course, there is nothing like it when you are at a Paul concert :)

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